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InTheStars
This is still off-topic... But we should wait until the rest of the Staff comments. Post what you suggested in the Idea!Thread, okay? So they see it...


~Faith~
SkewlOfRock
*Is confused* What do you mean? That was off topic? sad.gif
waffleprincess
i think it's me thats off topic... im just confused. i read a fic the other day that was realy cool. BUT in the fic they made out as tho wizards didn't know what thongs where... don't wizards wear underware?!?! it was a good fic tho.. just the thong thing it was annoying! lol

katie x
InTheStars
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*Is confused* What do you mean? That was off topic? 


Oh no, I was talking about waffleprincess's post... Just clearing that up.


~Faith~
SkewlOfRock
Oh! Okay, and hmm more things that are annoying...I don't like it when Ginny's got like every boy in the school trying to date her...she was never important before...
waffleprincess
yeh that's true... i started writing a fic ages ago, and Ginny was like the worst possible slut and it was really bad and horrid, but when i finnaly found a site that would acctually let me put fiction on to it i got excited and posted it... i really must get rid of it... ITS SHAMEFUL... it really could be the UBF! its only one chapter but it has loads of annoying things in it!

katie x
SkewlOfRock
Ha! I remember my first fic was terrible too...I still have it up...maybe so I can look back on it and laugh. It had annoying things...like um...SINGING! And i hate when people sing in fics...sometimes unless its a song fic
waffleprincess
singing? what like Draco serenading Ginny or Something??? lol.... i just thought of a good title for the UBF... The Bottle of Gin

cos having bottle is like being coragous and Gin is Ginny... lol, and Ginny willhave changed so much over the summer she will undoubtably have bottle, and mybe have died her hair green like Gin bottle's.. lol it even sounds bad in my head... one of those little things lol

katie x
SkewlOfRock
Ha! Yeah! Now we are to stay in this little thread here because we can't write in the other! :'( How depressing
waffleprincess
i know i might cry... that reminds me, i hate it when Ginny CRIES... she seems to cry all the time, and evn WOSRE... when Draco decides to kiss her because she's crying, fair enough he can feel guilty, but it just wouldnt happen!

katie x
SkewlOfRock
Yeah! If anything, for him to do something, he would just throw her a handkerchief or however you spell it! He's not going to stopp that low...hmph
pyropinkmonkey12
Don't know if anyone already said this, but even if they did, it's so awful it can be said again...Ginny changing houses to Slytherin!!!! It's infuriating, and makes absolutely no sense!!!! If no one else ever switches houses, why should she??
Or, if she and Draco get stuck somewhere together. Okay, there are many exceptions to this rule (All You Need is Love, by MochaButterfly is absolutely brilliant, and has them stuck in the past) and some can just be plain amusing, but come on, would Dumbledore really let two teenagers stay in a tower or leave their handcuffs on so they have to sleep in the same bed??? It's pisses me off soo much when they're senseless like that and not even well-written.

(I feel bad now though...i have one story that has some of the things mentioned on this thread...eep)

PPM!@
waffleprincess
lol. i know... it's all the annoyning little things that make Draco and Ginny out of character!

katie x
SkewlOfRock
*Gasp* PsychoGreenMonkey Your right! Why would she switch houses? Unless it was an AU where she was there from the beggining! Eep, you do have that one fic...Don't worry! You're talented! And that's like...tortue to leave them handcuffed together...and perverted!
waffleprincess
Dont worry about it monkey, the only fic i have on the net is probaly all of the things in this thread.... and i started it! lol

katie x

i am off to bed now im sleepy!
SkewlOfRock
YOU CALLED HER MONKEY! Cant you see its a chimpanzee offtopic.gif Sorry, and I can't wait to read the Ultimate Bad D/G Fic! Maybe a bunch of people could work on it instead of just one thumbup.gif Anyways, I'm leaving now too sad.gif I've posted so much today! Wow!
RyokoJesse
Ahhh! I agree, I can see Draco and Harry being civil, but not friends really suddenly!!

~Ryoko~`
andFiend
Definately. Ginny and Draco is understandble, all they have to get past is a family feud. But Draco and Harry being friends? They have to get past a whole slew of things, including deep rooted, undying hatred. Or somthing to that extent. I have to admit I've read a few, but fics where somehow Draco and Ginny are locked in a room and end up in love (or making love! innocent.gif ) are really starting to annoy me.
RyokoJesse
hahah, yes, but they always end up so angry at one another, and I do like a good row. smile.gif

~Ryoko~
andFiend
Don't we all enjoy a good row? I also don't like when people make Ginny's name somthing other than Virginia. I don't know if it's said in any book, but it's just implied. I am right? All good fics I ever read had her name Virginia. Sorry if i spelt it wrong. blush.gif
RyokoJesse
Well, I dont really care if it's Ginger, cause I find that one cute and I think Molly would do that with ehr love for cooking (once again, implied love) but anything else would just annoy me. Too bad I've never read any like that. whistling.gif smile.gif

Another thing that annoys me is when people think Ginny's eyes are blue. They're brown!!! *sigh* It's liek saying Hermione's hair isn't bushy.

~Ryoko~
SkewlOfRock
Yeah! People when they write the fics they use the people's characteristics from the movie! And it's kind of like how in POA Hermione's hair isnt really curly, and I dont like that. But I do hate it when they say her eyes are Green/Blue and that Draco's are just blue. Because they ARE grey! It says so in the books! And Ginny's hair will not turn blonde from the sun! Gr, it's so idiotic! rolleyes.gif
where_is_truth
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Lucius suddenly loves Ginny and cant wait till she joins the family YUCK!



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*horrified* I've never read that, but I don't want to!


Hooo boy, do I ever second that... I was momentarily dumquizzled at that particular "plot line"... I've honest-to-goodness never seen that. On another, more general note, I'm greatly bothered in fics where Draco and/or Ginny don't recognize one another but no reason is given. Given each of their very distinctive physical presences, it's hard to believe that they would completely (soberly) not recognize one another.
SkewlOfRock
I'm absolutely disgusted by L/G fics! Lucius/Ginny...and do you ever wonder what might have happened if Hermione went to Viktor Krum's house. offtopic.gif again, Sorry! Just kind of popped up in my head. I don't like it in fics where Draco is Ginny's maid...I can't see her actually doing that...being a made for Malfoy of all people! Even if she didn't know who needed a maid...and in the ones where she has to go somewhere with him, as a maid...or whatever you want to call her...he makes her wear the smalles clothes possible! And she does! NOOOO! She wouldnt!
RyokoJesse
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Draco is Ginny's maid...


*grin* I know you meant Ginny is Draco's maid, but there's a fic I'd like to read.
SkewlOfRock
thumbup.gif Can't argue with you there! tongue.gif
waffleprincess
lol. i generally like fic's where Ginny is working for Draco. but some justsuck... like she is a model for his magazine... like Malfoys would run a magazine!

katie x
andFiend
I like GinnyiswrokingforDraco fics too, but some, like you said WP, are beyond reason. I do like fics were their work makes them meet though. Anyone ever read As the Cookie Crumbles? Sorry thats really off topic. Hmmm... *tries to think of ON TOPIC contribution* Oh bother. I'll contribute later.
I Kiss Dementors
You know, Draco can be out of character in a romance fic around Ginny because love makes people out of character, yah know? As long as there is a good reason for why he cares about her then it's fine for him to show his true colors. But he can't change his attitude entirely. When he's around other people he'd still have to be the same person. I mean, in real life a bad boy could fall in love with a good girl and be totally sweet but he wouldn't be a sweet guy in front of his friends just because of his girlfriend.
Also, I think Harry and Draco are fully capable of being friends, but once again, in the right circumstances. You can't have a fic where they just start off as friends, something has to happen to make them friends. Something drastic. But it would be a bad idea in a story to have him become friends with Harry and Ginny(or someone else he hates).
Really, Draco doesn't have a definite personality either. We only ever see him from Harry's eyes. And he obviously must act completely different around other people, his family, and when he's alone. In fact, the only character we really know is Harry, since the story is centered around him. That leaves considerable room for fanfiction, as long as we keep up with the personality we see from Harry's eyes when he or she is around Harry.
where_is_truth
offtopic.gif I Kiss Dementors, your avatar is fantabulous. Simply stated, and I'm sure you've gotten at least a few agreements over time. wub.gif
waffleprincess
I kiss dementors... i know what your saying and i do agree. but this thread is just for us to day what annoys us in D/G fics...

katie x
Sakura1287
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I hate fictions that have them already in love in the first frickin' sentence! Where's the fun in that?! I think authors do that because they don't wanna go through the trouble of writing how they got together, because it's a bit difficult.


I think that's why I love DG. Getting them together is such a feat... so what's the fun in bypassing that part in a fic?

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i thought "knock on the Sky" was horrendous as well... i only read 1 chapter tho


The author of that is in my yahoo!group, and I never read it because I couldn't get into it. But we shouldn't bash authors here, you guys. Some of your comments have been pretty mean. Some new authors don't know that what they write has been written many times before them. They're naive to the fanfiction world. If we're writing this to help them, we have to be nice and helpful, not rude and spiteful. Singling people out is not the way to go.

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Anyway, since our Mods have all but disappeared, me and Sakura sort of took over when it came to this:

Stay ON topic, guys.


Thanks Faith. I was about to open a can... wink.gif

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I have to admit I've read a few, but fics where somehow Draco and Ginny are locked in a room and end up in love (or making love!  ) are really starting to annoy me.


They were good right away though. Some plots are good, but have been done so many times that I just don't like to read them anymore. Well, I'll still read if they are well written. But I just like and miss the element of surprise!

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*grin* I know you meant Ginny is Draco's maid, but there's a fic I'd like to read.


Me too! Oooh... post it in the challenges section, Ryoko! Go!

Kristina
waffleprincess
shouldn't we post the UBF in challenges see what people come up with?

katie x
kayumanggi
How about this one - when Virgin Ginny has the most spectacular first time with Draco, having orgasm after orgasm( I can say that here can't I?) and she sees stars and rainbows....yadda, yadda, yadda.

It doesn't matter how much experience a little 17 year old boy has, it will almost never be how it's usually described and it will be uncomfortable.

And yeah, ya'll shouldn't bash other people's fics without posting one of your own. I actually like one of the fics you mentioned. Those author's may pop in here too and I can't see that as being a nice welcome for them.

Just my 2 cents.

Ok back to topic.........
Sakura1287
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shouldn't we post the UBF in challenges see what people come up with?


No, because people can just go to the UBF thread if they are interested. Best to keep all of our ideas in one place.

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And yeah, ya'll shouldn't bash other people's fics without posting one of your own. I actually like one of the fics you mentioned. Those author's may pop in here too and I can't see that as being a nice welcome for them.


Exactly. PK has a very strict no bashing rule, and if it continues I will get a Mod to lock this thread.

Kristina
InsipidNight
What really annoys me is the basic OOC of Ginny or Draco. I think I've already said that here..but..I'm not sure..so I'll just post it again. Mwahaha. Oh yes, and Mary -Sues..mary sues are bad...bad..bad...bad! People should never write Mary Sues. They are evil, I tell you! EVIL!...Am I off topic? I probably am...*embarrassed*

--Sandie--
where_is_truth
Just out of curiosity, what do you all consider a Mary-Sue, esp. in the case of Ginny, (whom I think was given a fairly distinct characterization by JKR)?
And with the topic of this board, I must say I think any of the things listed are forgivable (save rampant OOC) as long as the writer really works with them and gives the reader an engaging reason for everything that happens. I also think far too often, in these fics where people do all that has been found "annoying" on this board, no one wants to speak up and tell the writer. The review function is fantastic, as long as it's used intelligently and constructively. I always like to know when I'm wrong, as long as the naysayer can back up why.
Sakura1287
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The review function is fantastic, as long as it's used intelligently and constructively. I always like to know when I'm wrong, as long as the naysayer can back up why.


Exactly! I would much rather get a review with constructive critisism, telling me what they didn't like and what I could improve on, instead of another "It's really good, hurry and write more."


Any cliched idea can turn out good... that's why they are cliched in the first place... the plot was so good that everyone wanted to use them!

It's just when they become OVER-used that we're talking about, really.

Kristina
InTheStars
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what do you all consider a Mary-Sue, esp. in the case of Ginny


Well, a Mary-Sue is really yourself. So when the author somehow becomes her. It just isn't Ginny anymore. dry.gif I hate Mary-Sues.


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Exactly! I would much rather get a review with constructive critisism, telling me what they didn't like and what I could improve on, instead of another "It's really good, hurry and write more."


Bless anyone who reviews like that! I get so much more out of it, too! I think any serious writer would.


~Faith~
waffleprincess
i'm trying to think of more annoying things, i thik we have gone through a hell of a lot.

Another one i hate is when Ginny hates Harry without good reason, if there is a reason then fine... but sh ecan't just hate him.

katie x
~*~Dracos Girl~*~
what i hate in D/G fics are when Draco just all of a sudden is really nice and on the "good" side helping them, then sees ginny in a was that he has never seen her before, and says "wow how could i have made fun of her for all these years" not in thoses works but around the same way...

and when Ginny needs money so she goes to Draco and he said ill give you money, but only if you live with me mad2.gif

those two get me mad most of the time, ill read them ut the get me mad.. whistling.gif
SkewlOfRock
There was one fic, where Draco was supposed to be seriously depressed because Ginny broke off their engagement so she could marry Harry, just to make her parents happy rolleyes.gif . And then she breaks it off with Harry...and goes looking for Draco...and I'm not sure how but Blaise Zabini found her...then Blaise went to go get Draco, and Draco saw Ginny...and he'd been wanting to get back together with her for the longest time. And when he saw her...he just yelled and walked out on her! It mad me so angry! Why would he do that! SuperAngry.gif

And another thing I don't like is when someone has a songfic, but the song lyrics aren't in Italics. *But I guess that's just a pet peeve* tongue.gif


heart.gif

SkewlOfRock

kazte
I just want them to be in character, and no american influence, no mary Sues, obviously I shouldn't talk, my poorly written fanfiction is all in ff.net 'cause I'm too ashamed of it that I will never change it (or upload it biggrin.gif )

also the whole perfect-body/perfect-life/perfect-bf Ginny, it's not her.

Hating Harry for no reason.

Loving Draco for no reason.

Dumping Draco and go with Harry

Dumb Draco.

I LOVE:

-Drunk Draco. not happy drunk. More like this: thumbup.gif

"Stupid weasel, get out of here, can't you leave me alone, just for tonight?" Draco said as he moved into the bank.

Ginny just stared at him, just for tonight?, "God Malfoy, I'm beting you're drunk, did you knew I have night Patrol? five points from Slytherin, and go to bed before I call profesor Mcgonagall ok?"


"Malfoy?"

She went next to him and yelled in his hear "Ferret Boy!!!"
heart.gif

Maybe I'll writte about it, maybe I won't! twisted.gif
RyokoJesse
Ahaha that was so funny! I love Drunk!Draco too,though I shouldn't admit it... innocent.gif

But this is annoying things, not things we love. I've got to stay ontopic. smile.gif

~Ryoko~
waffleprincess
OMG! i haven't been online for days, stupid internet broke!!!!!!

i aslo hate when people turn Ginny into some magic hating woman who lives in Muggle London,(just because no-one can name another British place) and give no explanation for it, or a really crappy one, like she slept with Seamus and got pregnant or something!


katie x
Sakura1287
kazte, have you read The Weasel and the Kneazle?

That has a really good drunk!Draco scene. biggrin.gif

Sorry, I just had to add that.

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or a really crappy one, like she slept with Seamus and got pregnant or something!


Wouldn't that be a Ginny/Seamus fic? huh.gif

Kristina
waffleprincess
no, i mean if say, she got pregnant from randomly sleeping with anyone, she runs away and becomes a muggle, and then Draco is all nice and makes her go back to the magical community smile.gif

katie x
Sakura1287
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no, i mean if say, she got pregnant from randomly sleeping with anyone, she runs away and becomes a muggle, and then Draco is all nice and makes her go back to the magical community


Hm... I've never read a fic like that.

Kristina
waffleprincess
i wasn't being specific... n/m just ignore me biggrin.gif
TellBell
2 words

AbusiveBoyfriend!Harry

(that and Nice!Draco... SuperAngry.gif )
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