QUOTE (nappa @ Dec 18 2002, 03:15 PM)

Maybe Ron's not in love with Hermione but with Harry!

YUCK! Oh please don't go there. I don't have a problem with M/M stuff but I just don't think any of the guys of HP go together (Cept for occaisionally Sirius and Remus ).

Did you guys catch all the H/Hr thingies they inserted into the movie. Harry kept holding her hand AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

Also the whole thing w/Hermione giving Harry that HUGE huge and then gettin' all weird with Ron like she didn't think it was proper to hug him or something. Like maybe she didn't think they were close enough. Now if that doesn't promote H/Hr I don't know what does!

Speaking of the movie......did anyone else feel like we got COS the Cliffnotes version?

does anyone know what Parvati looks like? i cant remember her discription, but still at the ball Hermione made all the girls envious, because she was really pretty. (Side note: hopfully her hair will become a little more managable and Harry will hurry up. Maybe Mr. ladies man sirius black can help harry out a bit.)




SoulShine, its better than Sunshine, its better than moonshine, and its damn sure better than the rain. -Government mule

Hey,

Okay, so to speak here.

I haven't much time, as I'm not technically supposed to be online... >>;

Parvati had long black hair and dark eyes, SoulShine. And at the Yule Ball her hair was braided with gold.

Okay, so the Viktor thing.

I agree with most that said that when Hermione went to the ball with Viktor, it caused Harry to see her in a different way. I think this was the first time our dear Harry truly noted that she was a girl (sad, I know). Though maybe he had feelings for her before, but he didn't know, or didn't want to notice, rather. He always tried to convince himself that she was his friend and nothing else, but he couldn't fight it once he saw her. I mean, come on...

Viktor truly is the link here, he made Harry know that Hermione constantly talked about him. He made Harry notice Hermione at the ball, in some kind of weird way, but he did make Harry notice. Oh, the fabulous jaw drop...

Well that's all the time I have for now.

~Blue

<takes face out of pumpkin pie for a sec>
Hey everyone! Wow, my first post...hopefully it will be good.

Right so why Harry and Hermione should be together...Well, I think my answer is best selected from an email i got from nancy. (don't know if she's a member here but she does have some of her work at FAP and ff.net) Basically its all my reasons for h/h and not r/hr.

QUOTE

Though I warn, it's nothing revolutionary, to the contrary, it's the blatantly obvious. Ron and Hermione exhibit the classic stages of older children/teens exploring the power of their sexuality.  It can be seen in any social group of that age group, and heck, I was a part of such hormonal repors in my own teen years.  I'm sure we all were.   Simple thing is, Ron and Hermione are no doubt attracted to each other.  Ron is very much a 'male' kind of guy, and Hermione is asserting her femininity, and who else better to rebound such energies from?  They are argumentative, and this is a tentative way for young people to explore their attraction. It's very much like the "smack her in the head to show her I like her" syndrome seen in kindegarten.   You're wondering where I'm getting to the Harry/Hermione-ness right?  Right. Well, supposing Ron and Hermione did ever start a romantic relationship, the question would be this - what would there be to it?  It would be based upon a childish interplay, and once both of them had firmly come to understand their flowering sexuality, the attraction would be dramaticly lessened.  Where's the excitement when you've both come to get over the 'rush' of butting heads?  Ron is a wonderful, funny and intelligent kid.  He's my favourite singular character.  But his suitability for Hermione is awful.  Hermione is a very cerebral and emotional girl.  She's sensitive, insightful, and has exhibited again and again the need to be appreciated for these things.  Ron, as great as he is, is not that kind of guy.  He's open, emotional, and is all about the body.  To put it in more astrological terms (forgive my dip into such things), Hermione is a water type personality, and Ron is fire. (No, I don't care if it creates steam, the water evaporates and nothing is left!!)   Hermione is driven by thoughts, by deeply emotional motivations which have been thought upon heavily.   Every action she displays has weight, and she sees other people's actions just the same. Ron, however, does what he feels is right at the immediate moment, doesn't think about it, and doesn't realise what he's done until it's too late.   He doesn't place a lot of stock in the study of literature (as he has demonstrated many a time), and he is all about living the moment, being out there and amongst the action.   Now, whilst some Ron/Hermione enthusiasts might say that this is a good thing, that it could draw Hermione out of herself, etc, I believe that the effects of such different personalities clashing would be different.   Ron has shown, again and again, a tendency to criticise Hermione for the way she is.  And it's not just little things about her that he criticises, it's deeply engrained things about her that are essential to her personality, and the way she is.   To put it simply - a happy couple this does *not* make. Harry, however, is the sort of laid-back and appreciative personality that would interplay with Hermione's rather delightfully.  Sure, the Ron/Hermione shippers might not find it all that exciting, but really, it's not about what's exciting.   Hermione would, in the end, be utterly miserable with Ron.   They make a lot of sparks, but it's not the sort of thing a lasting and happy relationship is made of.   Harry has demonstrated that he works well with Hermione in different situations, that they share a gentle and warm repor, and that he fully appreciates Hermione for exactly who she is.  Such a warm and comfortable friendship is just the thing that a happy and beneficial relationship is based on, and I think of all the girls that JKR has presented Harry with through-out the books thus far, Hermione is by far the best suited to him.

I think I'll save Ron and Krummie for another post. That could take a while.

Anyways happy holidays everyone and thanks NAPPA for starting a pro- H/H site...it's about damn time.

nyd (dejamevivir)

WOW! That was sooo Good! It was brilliantly written What a wonderful first post... I know it's QUOTE, but it's a brilliant quote, and whatever you said to start a conversation with Nancy, you deserve credits too.

Welcome to the site I'm one of the two people that started the site. James is the one that made the fanfiction.net like engine for this website. We have some wonderful things planned - including some rather interesting integration with with the forum... ermm.. Getting off topic. Welcome to the site.

This NANCY - is she the one that wrote that brilliant Hermione's birthday ficlet? I loved the ficlet. I still remember it from time to time... She draws a lot too - doesn't she?

PS: I love your signature.... I can't think of anything good to compare it to... Erm... okay I got on. Chocolate is good! (doesn't matter if you're allergic)

I LEAVE FOR 3 DAYS AND WHAT DO I COME BACK TO!? 69876308369 YEARS OF READING ALL THE OTHER POSTS!!! GAH!! But I love it. People are posting! Anyways. So now we're picking on Krum? Fuuuun! XD (Sorry I haven't posted in a while. My dad messed up the internet. I was lost for like, ever. I had whithdrawl.)

Ahhh, I can go on about Krum for ages. He needs a nice, pretty, smart girl to make his image look better. So who comes along? Out lovely Hermi. Krum's first thought: "Must be a bookworm. Ya know, she would bo goos for my image. Make me look smart and great, and my Quidditch skills are sure to charm her into my illegal/going out with minor thing." Herm is just too nice to say no to him, but she's got courage. She'll be fine.

Yes. So. HAPPY CHRISTMAS! AND NEW YEAR, TOO!

You know, this is a very good thing. Civilized bashing. We'll be good, no blood shed, don't worry, Nappa. We're behaving, although contrary to popular belief.

What's your take on OotP? Is my Sirius going to make another appearence? What about Remus? ::huggles Sirius plushy::. I miss my Siri! JK, I love you, but I'm being deprived!
~Jamie

Merry Christmas to everyone. Wonder what type of gift will hermione give to Harry on Christmas? probably a nice, cosy...blissful night.....

Merry Christmas, everyone! Due to my brother's computer burning out I haven't been able to post, but I had to speak out in my own defence. *glares at All-Powerful Being* Who changed my description to the evil girl? Heh... Season to be jolly...I really shouldn't be pissed. However, brother's keyboard sucks and I really don't have time to do any analysis... So erm...everyone have a great Christmas! I ought to rename this thread...

-Question- Hermione very obviously has a crush on Ron in GOF. Discuss how she might change from liking Ron to Harry.

You're NOT killing off my thread, Nappa!

P.S. I am not evil.

Hey all! I'm still waiting for Christmas to come my time, so to pass some time... (grr gnar gnar to insomnia)

NAPPA:

Glad that you enjoyed the quote. That will be forever saved on the hard drive of my computer, for sure. Many glomps to James as well for the setup of the site, very easy to navigate. And yes, I'm pretty sure that we are talking about the same Nancy. I absolutely loff her drawings. That birthday ficlet (and I think she wrote one with Harry and Hermione getting drunk off butterbeer) are forever burned in my memory. She has great style...

Harmony04:

Oi, I know what you mean. I really need some more of sirius and remus, right about now. It would be great to have OotP under the tree... hopefully, jkr will get it out soon. anyone know when OotP will be coming out yet or what?

magicalmischiefmaker

I don' t see the cozy night in the near future...but a girl can wish, right? <smut-filled head starts to bear its n-17 head>

Dauphin

QUOTE

-Question- Hermione very obviously has a crush on Ron in GOF. Discuss how she might change from liking Ron to Harry.

<thought-train comes to a halt and stares at screen for a second>

Hermione...obvious...crush...Ron?!? Wah? I can see where Ron has a blatant crush on Hermione but NOT vice versa. IMHO, Hermione doesn't appear to have any obvious crushes at all. Perhaps our defin. of obvious is different. When I think obvious crush for Hermione, I see swooning-over-Lockhart!Hermione for CoS. Thanks for the question, though.

Onto other news...anyone been to the Deathmarch at FAP. I've been reading and all I can say is oh...my...GOD! If you would like to see a real spanking for the R/Hr ship go read these wonderful, textual-evidence filled, essays.

http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypa...20&pagenumber=2

Check page 3 too.

Schnoogles, glomps, and pumpkin slush puppies galore,
nyd (dejamevivir)

Dauphin:
I am reallllllly sorry. I thought you liked being EVI. Feel Free to tack on anything on my name

DeathMarch:
*bounces* I remember how consuming arguing on that thread was. I think the first time I wavered from my regular posting was when I found that thread. It was literally hours of fun. But I kind of stopped going back to FAP about seven months agao. And a lot of people had the wrong idea about why. It was more to do with the stresses of real life. Anyway... *bounces* I'm not christian. I don't belive in Santa. But by golly there has to be a superior being if that level of R/Hr spanking had been dealt! *bounces more*

dejamevivir
Two great posts! Two gifts for all those here! Two very nice things..! I dunnon if you belive in santa or not, but for brining joy to this thread *glomp*

Yep *more glomping*
yep yep

NAPPA
(who is bursting bursting bursting bursting with happiness....)

wow. They really slay the H/hr shippers at that link. Wonder why i never went to fiction alley boards?

Merry Christmas people.

dejamevivir- Great posts! -ponders- I'll have to meet that Nancy person...

Eugh the Deathmarch thread. I still have nightmares about it. Too many R/Hr shippers, and all of them repeating the same thing! An H/hr shipper would post and FIVE R/Hr-ers would tear the post apart. It was all fun. Especially since most R/Hr-ers are friends of mine IRL...

Harmony- Remus... -drools- JKR's deprived us of him, Sirius at least made an appearence on GoF...

Happy Christmas everyone!
~Blue

Well, of course there is a bad reason for a thread to be named Death March. I was reading through it yesterday and found myself even more convinced by the textual-filled essays there. Even though it took at least an hour from my time spent doing Songbird's challenge...Hehe...Back to the topic...

I think we spend too much time bashing Ron to actually think of his good points. Perhaps the reason why he hesitates to help at times would be because he's more keen on survival - unlike Fred and George, he does want to live past seventeen...

dejamevivir: Well, Hermione does WANT Ron to actually notice her...but that could stem from a desire for him to stop looking at her as someone to copy from, a homework machine. I was in a hurry when I left that question there, but it's meant to start debate. You know, about whether Hermione had a big crush on Ron, or did she not?

Concerning FAP, I would just like to say...even though I'm an author, there's a reason I don't post there. I'm still keen on surviving to read OotP with the heart of a H/Hr shipper that hasn't been clawed to shreds.

Dauphin... I really think you should read the page 2 of the deathmarch thread H/Hr heaveyweigths like Lissanne, Ebony, ParkeyGrey (*worship*), Yumi, HarryNZ(*worship*), Circee (*worship*) and more have done this massive post after post after post of H/Hr defending... I can honestly say that after reading them - I feel renewedly invigorated. My H/Hr shippiness is coming back with a vengence... (*not to self: plot more smuts*)

I read it in the morning, and I re read it again. It was sooo good! I put a link up at the top ( http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypa...20&pagenumber=2 ) ... I hope you all have a look. It feels like there is a and he is H/Hr

A big thank you to all those that put up that massive H/Hr present

Darn it. I had a huge message written to post in here. Then the power goes out, and I lose everything. Argh. Don't you guys hate when that happens? I'll have to write this down from memory.

A question before I say anything else: Are we discussing why HH is great or why R/Hr or V/Hr AREN'T?

Sorry if I sound cranky, it's just that everytime I see the words "Ron bashing" I tend to get a little miffed. Sorry.

Is there a specific Ron thread? Maybe we should have one, since he *IS* a key part on two of our three main ships, after all. *groans* I truly don't know what I'm getting into when I suggest this.

Back to our regularly scheduled topic.

STAR WARS AND THE TRIO HYPOTHESIS

I see Harry as Luke. I definitely see Hermione as Leia. But I just CAN'T picture Ron as Han. They're different. What is this, Han by default or what? Anyway, I've always liked the H/L pairing, I find it very refreshing. The point is, Han and Leia don't love each other because they bicker, they love each other DESPITE their bickering. Even when they're mad, you can see the love flowing between them. Even when they're mad, you can see they trust each other with their lives. That's the most important thing: trust. And Harry and Hermione definitely have that.

FRIENDSHIP

I say that friendship is very important in a relationship. Why are people so reluctant to admit that it IS posible to go from best friends to lovers? Most people see that as some sort of disease. Is it because they've gone through that and failed, or because they don't want to go through that? Differences don't spark a relationship, trust does. Lovers have to know each other better than anyone else. How else can they know if the other needs them, if there's something wrong, or if the other simply cannot express feelings in words? Harry and Hermione have that, you can see it when they help each other out, when they know what the other is thinking.

LESSONS IN LIFE

There's one thing I'll be eternally grateful to Hermione: she has taught Harry to care. We obsess over the hug, the kiss, but I don't really find it very romantic. The important part isn't that Hermione was the first (the quidditch girls and Fleur kissed Harry first, after all), but that she knew the right, the perfect moment to do so. The hug sure gave Harry the strenght to fight Voldie. The kiss, I'm sure, gave Harry a bit of hope that everything would be ok. No one else has shown him that sort of care. She's his teacher. Can we expect her to teach him an "I love you" next?

COMPLETION

I don't think Harry and Hermione complete each other. If anything, they're more similar than they think they are. But that is not an impediment on their relationship, it just helps them understand each other better. People who are totally opposites try, but can never truly understand the other's POV, and that, as I've already mentioned, is fundamental in a relationship. We know they do understand each other (or at least Hermione does, because Harry's being a dense git! ), and God knows Harry needs someone to be there for him without judging him. I don't think you need your lover to hide your flaws (as "completion" usually tends to mean), more like your lover must inspire you to try and correct them yourself. You know, the whole "bring the best out of you" deal. And that, we know Hermione is great at.

MOTHERLY FIGURE

I actually only skimmed over this topic, but it really interested me. So, yes, Harry's looking for someone to replace his mother-- but what IS a mother figure, really? I'm sure most of us are familiar with Freud's theory that the man unconsciously looks for a woman who's similar to his mother to be his mate. Oedipus and all that. It's kinda squicky when you think about it, but very true, we humans are freaky like that. The way I see it, Harry isn't looking for someone to BE his mother... he's just looking for someone to care for him, since he never had a mother to do that. The mother and the lover are the two most important "others" in the life of a man. Thus, Hermione is the most important female in Harry's life, mother figure or not. Who can compete with that?

Enough points for that essay, Dauphin? I'll try to think more about this later.

Bye-eys!

Carla.

*gapes* Wow! We can trash the entire Sugarquill.Net with this! Thanks, Carla! Hehe...I'll leave the thread for a few days more to perhaps collect more reasons, then I'll compile the essay... Frankly, I am sort of a Ron basher, but I've been defending him recently, too...Will try to limit bashing.

Nappa: Already have...I went there you left the link on top. That'll show the R/Hr shippers...But I still remain proud of the fact that I have 0 posts.

To be serious, I used to be a R/Hr shipper. There are many of them likely because most HP fans start out with the most common ship - H/G and R/Hr. Some of them may counter our point by stating that everyone expects H/Hr to happen because the wizarding world does. However, those at Hogwarts know that Harry and Hermione are supposedly "only friends". It would come as a surprise if it happened. It'll also become a big source of teasing for Malfoy.

We all know that Harry and Hermione's SPECIAL CONNECTION has been established in the first four books, and it's been proved that both would lay down their lives for each other. Is there any reason why it shouldn't develop into love? *check out FAP's massive spanking for the R/Hrs by the heavyweights*

*worshipping all H/Hr heavyweights*

Harmony: Don't worry! JKR isn't that evil as to deprive us of Sirius. If he still doesn't appear, you can go search for better Sirius fanfics...

<Jumps in to pumpkin mush aka Kindred Spirits Threads>

Hey all! I'm back for more...

Dauphin:

<slaps forehead> Oi, sorry about misunderstanding your question! I thought you already thought that Hermione actually fancied the git<cough>...I mean Ron. And yeah, I do agree about not posting on the FAP...I'm a frequent lurker there. And about being a R/Hr shipper for awhile...well I was one too until I saw the light (more like discovered fictionalley.org but thats another story). I really thought that at one time Ron and Hermione were getting together for sure but I never really liked the notion. Onto to other stuff...

Carla:

Argh, I hate when that happens. Everything's almost done and then BAM!...gotta start over. . Star Wars doesn't really interest me but your post was great! You're right...It's all about trust. Really enjoyed your points and hope to see more soon.

Oh, and will keep Ron bashing to a minumum...but I can't promise anything.

Nappa:

Oh, I know what you mean. I felt the H/H pumpkin-ness pumping through my veins after reading what the heavyweights had to say. I used to do Deathmarch but I just kept getting aggravated with the R/Hr's. If I posted one thing, there were like 5 ready and willing to rip it apart...and they would do that by saying the same thing over and over. Very annoying in my opinion. Also didn't like how some of them used out of context examples. But after that, it was all good fun.

QUOTE

(*not to self: plot more smuts*)

Please do...

Blue Rain and magicalmischiefmaker:

Agreed. I used to post on Deathmarch but I swear all that would happen would be 5 R/Hr's breathing down my neck (rather post) and using the same verbartim. They basically lynch us there...usually don't go.

Oh and Blue Rain...where'd you get your signature from? Sounds like an interesting fic.

Yup, I think that was everyone. Lots of pumpkin slush puppies to all

nyd (dejamevivir)

Sorry for the double posting but I just *had* to let you guys see this poem. Since it's not by me I couldn't post it as a ficlet so here seemed like the next best place...
***
Variation on the Word Sleep
by: Margaret Atwood

I would like to watch you sleeping,
which may not happen.
I would like to watch you,
sleeping. I would like to sleep
with you, to enter
your sleep as its smooth dark wave
slides over my head

and walk with you through that lucent
wavering forest of bluegreen leaves
with its watery sun & three moons
towards the cave where you descend,
towards your worst fear

I would like to give you the silver
branch, the small white flower, the one
word that will protect you
from the grief at the center
of your dream, from the grief
at the center. I would like to follow
you up the long stairway
again & become
the boat that would row you back
carefully, a flame
in two cupped hands
to where your body lies
beside me, and you enter
it as easily as breathing in

I would like to be the air
that inhabits you for a moment
only. I would like to be that unnoticed
& that necessary.
***

Was it just me or did you all melt too? I can just imagine Hermione being like that, especially her trying to stop Harry's bad dreams.

Anyways, cheers and happy holidays
nyd (dejamevivir13)

Errrrr...Reading R/Hr Stories Are *Shiver* Just Disturbing.....I Am OFCOURSE A H/H Shipper...

HOWEVER........As Much AS I Dont Want TO Say It....JKR Revealed A Few Bits That Are Supposed To Become In H.P And The O.P(order phoenix).........
And...Well Embrace Yoursleves H/H Shippers....But She Did Say That R/Hr Would Be Happening...........*shiver* After This I Had To Read About....13 h/h fluffs and 3 long stories with h/h in it for me to not get sick!!!

However Have Hope That Was A While Ago And She Said She Would Be Changing A FEW Things....But I Doubt It... .........

Anyways Until IM SURE JKR Wants It To Be R/Hr I Will Not Give In To R/Hr!!! No Offence R/Hr Shippers....BUT ITS SICK TO PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER!!!!AHHHH
O.K...Now That Im Thru With That....Ummmm I Forgot What THe Topic Of This Thing Is....So Ill Just End It With A Just One More Thing.......

I Am A H/H SHipper Forever!!!!

Beep...

QUOTE

And...Well Embrace Yoursleves H/H Shippers....But She Did Say That R/Hr Would Be Happening...........*shiver* After This I Had To Read About....13 h/h fluffs and 3 long stories with h/h in it for me to not get sick!!!

She did say that and I believe she also said that "He (Harry) needs her (Hermione) badly" We'll se why.

I actually found a couple of good rumor sites:

Here
Here

See ya,
~Blue

Oh, dejamevivir the quote is from a fanfic I'm thinking to post, it's already written but not posted anywhere.

QUOTE

And...Well Embrace Yourselves H/H Shippers....But She Did Say That R/Hr Would Be Happening...........*shiver*

<runs fingers through hair>

Well guys, of course it's going to happen! There would be major problems for the Trio's friendship if Ron didn't get his unresolved feelings out of the way. He would become a jealous git again, thinking that Harry gets everything. Personally, I want it to happen as quickly as possible, to get it over with. IMHO, Hermione wouldn't be able to stand Ron for too long. My bet for their relationship is that they will start early in 5th year, last 2 weeks, and mutually break up.

QUOTE

Well, supposing Ron and Hermione did ever start a romantic relationship, the question would be this - what would there be to it?  It would be based upon a childish interplay, and once both of them had firmly come to understand their flowering sexuality, the attraction would be dramaticly lessened.  Where's the excitement when you've both come to get over the 'rush' of butting heads?

This is from my first post and this is exactly what I see for R/Hr. So do not fear, fellow aurors, because once they see that their arguing is not sexual tension but just arguing, they will get over themselves.

But yeah, do agree with XxKkAnGxX...will need some h/h fanfics to make me not vomit...

Oh and Blue Rain:

<starts a chant> POST! POST! POST! POST!
I would really like to see this fic...POST IT!

Many pumpkin slush puppies to all...
nyd(dejamevivir)

Hi there

XxKkAnGxX ( you´re name´s a bit difficult to spell )

Oh, God WHERE have you read this information? Did JKR really confirm this rumor? WHEN?
I know it´s supossed to happen, but it isn´t nice to hear about it.
How Am I supossed to read book number five, if I can´t even read RH fics?
Should I throw away all the pages related to the "lovely" RH couple in OoP?
Maybe we should start a new thread :
" A guide for HH-ers: How to survive OoP"

That were really very bad news.
Ok. It´s enough. I´m going to commit suicide.
*LOL*

Nailju
HH 4 ever

I took a look over at the rumour sites suggested by Blue. A lot of them seem highly unlikely, and unless nobody updates those sites, some of the rumours have been set straight by JKR (I believe she was shocked at the idea of a character named Icicle that I read in a magazine somewhere).

Anyway, I noticed that there's something that involves a H/Hr relationship in one of the next three books!!! But there's also things about a R/Hr relationship. Just to clarify, I'm not a Ron basher, because I think of his character in terms of Canon. He seems like such a great guy. It's just that sometimes fandom influences me too much (that's what one gets when you've been living off the stuff...waiting for book five )

I do see R/Hr happening though. But I don't see it as a lasting product. I actually do think that a R/Hr romance will happen before a H/Hr. Could it be the time that Harry has his eyes open? Would he maybe start getting funny feelings from seeing his two best friends date?

ARGH! Reading all this is making want the damn book out. Those June 2003 rumours better be true. My stomach is actually churning

Love, peace and pie,
happy

A word of advice to everyone: Don't believe in rumours. Mrs. Jo Rowling is an evil, EVIL person who says all kinds of things just to deceive her readers. And then, rabid shippers come and change about everything she said, deceiving us even more. So, don't get too jumpy until you actually read the book.

Nail- Calm down and sit still. Let's do something: I'll read OoP first (I'll most definitely get it in english) and then I'll tell you if you should go hang yourself or not, ok?

YAY! Ron is a great guy... he is! Let's all love Ron! Whee! Ok, getting a bit fanatical here. Don't mind me.

Carla.

QUOTE

When I saw Krum, my first thought was...."what in the world is he doing with a 14 year old girl?"

When I was 14 I went out w/an 18 year old. He was a perfect gentleman. I think it depends on the older person. His family didn't approve and we had to call it quits but I really didn't see the problem as long as we weren't doing anything.

Heck, my husband is 6 years older than me. Okay we met when I was 18 but still. Hmmmm. I'm ranting. I'll stop now. LOL. (Quick side note: I'm currently 26.)

QUOTE

And...Well Embrace Yoursleves H/H Shippers....But She Did Say That R/Hr Would Be Happening...........*shiver* After This I Had To Read About....13 h/h fluffs and 3 long stories with h/h in it for me to not get sick!!!

I'm not too worried. They can always break up.

Yes, and then Ron would go into one of his jealous fits, get pissed, get mad at Harry and the world, get pissed, then see Voldie and then see the light. Ooh! How lovely! Then we have our beautiful H/Hr, and hook Ron up with someone else... Hehe...*cackles*

The Ten-Step OotP Survival Guide For H/Hr Shippers:
1) Read as many H/Hr AUs as possible in order to torch the terrible remnants of R/Hr in your mind.
2) Convince yourself that Harry and Hermione belong together and claw all R/Hr clues in OoP to shreds. Read more essays showing why H/Hr is bound to happen.
3) Rave and roar on portkey.org*shameless plugin*
4) Erase all H/Hr angst from mind and go to fluff section.
5) Send letters to JKR begging her to put H/Hr together.
6) Spam the Harry Potter website with H/Hr essays.
7) Ban yourself from all gloating sites - Gryffindor Tower, Sugar Quill, etc.
8) Wait for Book Six.
9) Endlessly reread PoA.
10) If all of the above do not work, check out H/Hr smut or request some.

That's all! *R/Hr sucks*

HMmM...JKR Said That In Books Six...Harry And Cho Might Hook Up...But She Didnt Say For Sure...

But Your Idea Of Mailing Her And Asking Her To Do h/hr is interesting...Especially When Your Millionare GrandFather Is Only To Happy To Do Anything FOr his ONLY...*Dramatic Tune*....YES ONLY Grandchild...^^

Anyways Im Getting TO Full Of Myself...

But Im Seriously Considering Mailing JKR Begging Her To Do H/Hr (Cant Stand R/hR....Maybe Ill Just Skip Chapters In Book 5 That hAs R/Hr In It)^^
I Already Plan To Mail A Gift To Emma Watson On her Birthday Since Shes Oh So Very Cute PLaying Hermoine!! Shes Really Really Cute~ Dont U Agree??? Shes Only A YEar Younger Then Me~~
And I Hear THe UK isnt All That Bad

XxKkAnGxX:

JK has not come out and explicitly said anything about the pairings. Only that Harry is supposed to pay a bit more attention to Hermione (Romantic or not does not matter - say "ABOUT TIME", everyone!) and that he will go out with a Quidditch Team Mate.

This DOES NOT mean Cho. Or NOT mean Cho. We simply don't know if it's a pity date from of the Quidditch girls (Alicia, Angelina or Katie) or Ginny (if she's the goal keeper - or someone else altogether different).

JK would not give away explicitly what happens, as she hs never done that. SHe never tells names. She told us someone will die in book 4 - that's all. But she refused to say who it was. This is the same thing again. I suspect it might be Ginny - but I hope to GOD it's Alicia! *tries to convince everyone else Harry/Alicia is not his 2nd fav pairing*

Mailing:
If after book 7 JK ha not made it H/Hr - I suggest we launch a campign and ask her to write an alternate H/Hr ending

Very first H/Hr thread in FAP:
http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypa...=&threadid=1752

I was sent this link to by M.Gomez. It's interesting read. I saw someone there I had thought entered the fandom recently! Thieving Magpie! You're realllllllly old - in fandom years! You're like one of the first posters in that thread Wooo ... I just had to welcome you again

As well as Lady Aerun.

The reason I got the link was different to why I'm posting, but it's really fun to reminece - so anyone interested in a warp in time?

MOPEY!
(yes... I've changed moi name.... Jaime is sick )

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...Harry is supposed to pay a bit more attention to Hermione (Romantic or not does not matter - say "ABOUT TIME", everyone!)

Good Harry...he won't need that ass-whooping any longer. Now all he has to do is admire the girl and confess undying love!

*cackles evilly*

I'm joking. It's all going to depend on how JKR writes her pairings of how I'll like it or not. But puh-lease...H/Hr...just a hint, just a clue, we can't live off that blasted kiss on the cheek forever! We didn't even get to know their thoughts on it only "and she did something she never did before".

If that's not something, then I don't know what is. Why did she explicitly say that Hermione never did that before? She could've just jumped right to it and said "and she kissed him on the cheek". Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

No, she had to make the cogs in our brains turn for two years.

June 2003...it better be true that that's the release date, or I will start killing poor, defenseless...PLANTS *gasp*

happy

Well, I for one will stop trying to guess what she's going to do. It's bloody impossible! She keeps saying things that go against what she said before! Gah, she must be so smug that we're all confused-- how brilliant!

I *DO* hope that the book comes out in July... *sigh* It can't be THAT hard, what's taking her so long? (*baps self on head* Inner voice: "Look who's talking!") Have you ever thought that maybe she says things, but when she's writing she doesn't like them and decides to change everything? Maybe that's why she's taking so long to write the book.

Sincerely, though the coupling thing is in my mind, I'm more worried about the actual storyline. Who's going to be the "baddie" this time? (First it was "Snape", then "Draco", then "Sirius" and "Karkaroff"...) Who's she going to kill off? OMG, what if it's Ron? Nooooo... what if Hagrid and Mme. Maxime get married and have kids in book 5? What if Dumbledore falls in love with the Giant Squid? What if Sevvie suddenly decides to quit teaching and join a ballet group??? Ok, I'm really reaching unprecedented levels of crazyness here.

Do not worry, shipmates! Who knows, maybe in the end we'll be the gloating ones... *cackles loudly as if JKR had already told her how the books would end*

Ok, for real now... I don't think letters would be so wise. Poor woman, she must receive tons of mail daily! Really, if she decides to not put HH in her books (please take on account that I didn't mention specifically RH), then there's nothing for us to do except-- write more fanfics! YAY!

Bye-e!

Carla.

P.S.: This message was so seriously off topic...

Hi, this is Hon Rosie here, i was just checking out all the different posts, and i've been hearing tons of h/h rumors, and i want to know.. how many of them are true?

P.S. sorry if this is screwed up, i don't really know how to post stuff.

P.S. 2: Hey Nappa, i still need some help with my fanfic. IM me when you can, please.

H/H forever!

~Hon Rosie Woodsorrel

Erm, considering their rumours, I don't think any of them are true. I'm not even going to believe JKR's quotes (although they are something to feed on) because she tends to contradict herself. She likes to confuse us...but heck, if I were her, I'd like to screw around with people's heads.

Ooh..did I say that out loud?

happy

First of all...

Hi happy! *waves overenthusiastically*

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I do see R/Hr happening though. But I don't see it as a lasting product. I actually do think that a R/Hr romance will happen before a H/Hr. Could it be the time that Harry has his eyes open? Would he maybe start getting funny feelings from seeing his two best friends date?

Yes, I do see R/Hr happening before, and I'm sure hoping for Harry to get a clue already! Damn....

Concerning the rumors, that's all they are... 'rumors' Most of them are crazy made-up things from people who wish things to happen. *coughlikemecough*

As for screwing with people's head... well that's the whole fun of having a book series, the author is the only one that knows what happens... so she goes and MAKES US BELIEVE THAT THINGS WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY WON'T AND THEN MAKE US WAIT AGES FOR THE NEXT BOOK WHEN SHE LEAVES SOMETHING SUCH AS THE KISS ON THE PREVIOUS BOOK! Now that I got that out...

As for the kiss on GoF. We know JKR, she puts things for a reason, and that kiss will not end in anything: as our dear happy said about the explicit "something she'd never done before" thing.

I was reading the link they put up in here a while ago for the DM and I absolutely loved a post made by attackofthejello

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What we have seen in canon is the expectation of H/Hr by basically the entire wizarding world, and then the "letdown" or denial. After repeated denial by Harry (notice: not by Hermione ) perhaps we'll see the characters turn their attention to R/Hr. But as of now, the characters expect the famous Harry Potter to hook up with his closest female friend. That's what's great about H/Hr-- everybody thinks it won't happen because it's 'too obvious'. It's so expected that it's unexpected.

And what's more scary, I understood it. Not scary, really.

Well that's all the time I have for now.
~Blue

nods....

Mod Notice
Hi guys. I just made a thread for Ron/Hermione, Ron and for the dicussion of OBHWF (One big Happy Weasley Family). We should probably take out the Ron stuff out of this thread an go to that one. Please be nice in there to each other. A lot of us like Ron. If not ron, then a few of the Weasleys

URL : >> http://talk.portkey.org/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=115&s=

@nappa

Well, yes I've been around the fandom for quite a while now. But since FAP choose to change the Bulletin Board Engine I decided to stop posting there. They wouldn't allow me to keep my avatar or signature!

I'm not sure if H/H is going to happen in canon but I am ...

No! No! No! Harry and Hermione just belong together! My blood is chilling thinking that the HP series is going to end up H/G and R/Hr! I'm not going to dwell on the kiss, because with all the R/Hr hints in GOS that kiss is just random, but Harry and Hermione are more compatiable. Ginny likes Harry because he's famous and Ginny's too naive to be much of a support for Harry. And Ron...well, he's okay, but he's just not for Hermione. People should sign a petition and send it to JKR demanding H/Hr! Yeah!

*sigh* Now who was the person who said splitting topics up would result in a lack of posts? Just kidding! Well, I suppose we should all get back to the topic of H/Hr...

The Expectation That Turns Out To Be Unexpected:
Hogwarts believes that Ron and Hermione would eventually get together, while the outside world believes that Harry would hook up with his female best friend. Which one would make a larger impact? Naturally the latter, because Hogwarts is full of people who think they know the Trio well. Thus, it would come as a sort of surprise.

Carla: Don't think she'll kill Ron off. She'll probably put him in a near-death situation (PS, PoA...), but she won't kill him off. The trio won't be complete without him, and we need his cool quotes too! (Follow the spiders? Why couldn't it be follow the butterflies!)

Generally, the Harry/Ginny ship MIGHT work. However, it depends on whether Ginny can get past her belief of Harry as an infallible hero, which was only strengthed in her first year when he saved her from Riddle. We all know the stereotypical thoughts of a celebrity - must make sure the girl loves me for myself, not for my name or money - Thus, thus. Ginny is much too focused on his fame and not on his character itself. Ultimately, it'll end.

Petition? Where? *drags out quill from somewhere*

Dauphin- Actually, I'm dead scared that she'll kill ANYONE off... which is bad, because it's almost a fact that someone will die in book 5. I think I'm going to cry a lot...

I *LOVE* the butterflies quote. It's in my sig, in my wallpaper, in all my notebooks, will be on my website... *sigh* Can't get enough cool Ron quotes.

About R/Hr-H/G, this may sound weird, but I see it backwards. RHr could work, but it's too hard for HG, I guess. Must be simply because I don't like the pairing.

Poor Mrs. Jo... even though I would love to be her, I guess there's part of me that would hate to be her. She must be sick of letters and petitions...

Question for everyone: How do you think H/H will get together? Huge BAM! moment like in Lori's PoU, or something sweet and simple?

Most of the time I go for the BAM! theory, but sometimes sweet and simple fits so much in the mood that I can't help it... *snicker*

Carla.

I agree with Carla about the R/Hr and H/G relationships. I don't see H/G working out...probably because it squicks me so much. Yes, I can be biased

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How do you think H/H will get together? Huge BAM! moment like in Lori's PoU, or something sweet and simple?

I love reading about the BAM! moments...cuz they're just so darn sweet! But I also like cute, pining away fics also (depends on how well it's written though). I think H/Hr would get together in a combination of the two though. The feelings would build up and up, without them knowing at all, then there will be that one big moment where all those feelings finally show up and you have your BAM!

I hope that did make sense. It did to me, but I have a tendency to think things make sense but they really don't. It's called living in my own world!

happy

Argh, need to post more often so I don't have to write gigantic posts...

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How do you think H/H will get together? Huge BAM! moment like in Lori's PoU, or something sweet and simple?

I, like happy, am a bit insane at the moment and have to agree. I like to call it <blasts trumpets> PLEASURE DELAY! Just let the feelings build up for a while and the BADA BING--a steamy pumpkin pie moment in the making. Honestly though, I don't really have a preference as long as it's well written and Harry/Hermione.

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I agree with Carla about the R/Hr and H/G relationships. I don't see H/G working out...probably because it squicks me so much.

Same thing for me. I can see Ron and Hermione getting together () but Harry and Ginny is taboo for me. Ginny hero worships and IMO, its *very* annoying. Plus I don't like canon!Ginny a whole lot, either...but we all are allowed our bias.

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Actually, I'm dead scared that she'll kill ANYONE off... which is bad, because it's almost a fact that someone will die in book 5. I think I'm going to cry a lot...

Personally I think Hagrid is a goner in the next book. () <sniffles> I don't want to see him go though!

The death stuff has brought a question to mind for everyone, so here it is:
Do you think that someone's death/near-death can jumpstart Harry and Hermione's feelings for each other or can it be something else? Note: The someone in the question could be *anyone*, so it includes Harry and Hermione.

My opinion on my own question is that it won't be death being the thing that jumpstarts feelings. I do think that the possible loss of Hermione's friendship might light the fire under Harry's ass, though. I don't think the git fully realises how much he needs her. <shakes head> In addition to Ron/Krummie bashes, we need to bash Harry a bit too...

Nappa: <brings out virtual toaster> CONGRATS with the newlywed stuff! Hope your having fun...

Right, I think that's everything.
nyd (dejamevivir)

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Do you think that someone's death/near-death can jumpstart Harry and Hermione's feelings for each other or can it be something else? Note: The someone in the question could be *anyone*, so it includes Harry and Hermione.

I love your choice of wording, dejamevivir (...the possible loss of Hermione's friendship might light the fire under Harry's ass, though). But it's true. I agree with you, thinking that he doesn't yet realize how necessary it is to have Hermione around...even as just a friend. I read a fic, long time ago, about Hagrid's death triggering their feelings. It was probably one of the first ones I read, and I remember there were lyrics to the song Pinch Me by Barenaked Ladies. It's somewhere on FA, but I don't know who the author is.

I don't know who's other death would trigger their feelings. For sure, if Hermione were in some near-death experience, something might surface into Harry's mind.

happy

Yes, happy, I've read that fic. I think it's by Narri, but then, I'm not sure...

I don't know if I'm comfortable with the death-get-together option. While it's really cute, I think their minds would be elsewhere, so it wouldn't be that great. I like scenes along the lines of a something-big-happened-but-it's-calmed-down-already-and-we-don't-know-what-to-do-with-the-adrenalin-so-let's-snog kind of thing. But not deaths. *brrr* Those are creepy.

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I do think that the possible loss of Hermione's friendship might light the fire under Harry's ass, though.

LOL! I think we all agree with that statement, nyd! Let's all bash Harry! Dense git that he is...

Carla.

WHAAAT?!? I've heard, yes, that RW/HG might happen, but JKR confirmed it!?! WHAT IS HER PROBLEM!?! I will seriously start to cry if that happens. And I will burn her house down if my Sirius gets hurt in any way/shape/form. I am close to crying right now, why did you have to say that?!? DIE!! No, don't die!

THANK YOU to all my people who are being nice and helping me cope with my Siri withdrawl. I can't recall names right now, but you know your names, and that is good.

In response to somone whose name I can not remember, I have decided to create:

An Hp/HG-ers Guide to Surviving OotP.

However, I will need help. All ideas welcome!

I haven't gotten a chance to read all of the posts here, because that will take a lot of time that I do not have. Sorry, folks!

In regards to Remus and Sirius (I find it hard to go too many posts and not mention them. I may have to go to the L/J thread...) it has been called to my attention that Remus has a threat on his life. (I may have to move this idea...). If you recall, Peter was given a silver arm in GoF. And Remus.... isn't he a Werewolf? Isn't silver BAD for werewolves? I'm not trying to scare any Remus fans here, but if this is indeed dangerous, we need to seriously start some kind of... action! Remus is awesome, and I love him! Not like I love my Siri-poo, but... for the sake of the Marauders we must act!

FAP: Would I be killed if I went there?

BONA FORTUNA, ALL!

~Jamie

Um Hi I'm new here.
Some of you that use fictionalley.org will know me as bunnyoncatwalk.
I was wondering if I could join this guild.
Thanks
Harry and Hermione FOREVER!

Welcome, bunnycatonwalk!

I do think that the possible loss of Hermione's friendship might light the fire under Harry's ass, though.

I'm not so sure of the loss of Hermione's friendship so much as Hermione herself - and then, only after said loss really puts Harry in a sticky place.

Because Harry did do without Hermione's friendship for a while in PoA, and while he was the one to reinitiate it, he certainly wasn't pining for her presence. She was Petrified in CoS too, but there really wasn't a worry that she'd die. If there was an actual worry of losing her that way - therefore her being truly gone from their lives - that's about the only motivation I'd see for Harry at this point.

Whoa... Harmony! Say to yourself "Just a rumor, just a rumor"... and go find a fluffy H/Hr fic to curl up with.

Hi bunnyoncatwalk! It's good to see familiar faces coming to plunge in the great world of Portkey.org

Just read Harry Potter and the socerers stone The not so golden snitch. Very funny.
I do think that the possible loss of Hermione's friendship might light the fire under Harry's ass, as any falling out with a friend makes you realise how much you like that friend (well after you get over that feeling of gut-wrenching betrayal).
On to other topics.
JK CONFIRMED RON AND HERMIONE!!!
When how where and is it avalible for free on the web?
Ok it had to happen but did it?????
Is serius getting killed off???
Why doesn't JK just tell us the whole story so we don't have to wait for her to write the whole book!
My input
Thanks for the welcomes my fellow friends from fictionalley!