Hey everyone!

Something interesting happened to me the other day while I was riding on the bus back from a football game (that's American football, BTW). I was talking to one of my friends about message boarding and I told her that I go on HP message boards all the time. I then told her it was a shipping message board and then asked who she ships. Unfortunately, she's like my other friends and ships R/Hr , but hey, everyone has their opinions.

So, what's the point to this babbling? I actually talked to her about why . She's my only friend that has read HP more than once. I had to get her opinion. She ending up telling me that, even though she hates it being her reason, it's obvious. She told me to look at Ron's crush on Hermione. My reply was, "Okay, Ron's got a crush on Hermione, everyone knows that. But do you think Hermione likes him back?"

She said no .

Then, she said that Harry would end up with Luna . I shook my head and told her that the scene between Harry and Luna at the end of the book just cemented their friendship.

"Ohhhhhh," she said. "I believe that."

Sadly, the bus ride ended and we had to get off. But before I went home, I said that when we have more time, I'd give her some juicy H/Hr moments that could make her change the way she sees things .

Here's where you guys come in....I need the most convincing H/Hr moments throughout the series that most people forget. C'mon, I know you guys know 'em. I could use a little help because I can forget the tiny cute things. So HELP!

hi. i wiish i was able to convince some of my friends to like h/hr or even harry potter...but sadly none of my friends read harry potter so they have no idea wuht im talking about..
if u want sum moments then go here http://lineundrawn.thepensieve.net/pages/moments.htm
they have moments from books and moments from movies..just incase u didnt already go there..
over n out.
-greeneyes

Just read through some of the posts on here and it should help. Harry and Ron's fight. The Hogsmeade thing in third year. The hug in the 1st book. The post-kiss scene. The hippogryph symolism. Theres too many to list and go into detail over and my sister is wanting me off the computer now

Love Millie


p.s. I'm sure someone else will elaborate.

Theres alot of great moments all around actually, the boards, all kinds of things imo. But i stopped being a converter before OotP, nowadays i rather just let them be r/hrs so i can taunt them to high hell the day we claim victory.
muahahha

Same here Stncold. Though check out the Pumpkins Army section. There are so much good essays there that illustrate some real H/Hr moments and they go into detail.

I hope I helped you out...

oh there's way too many, just tell her to reread all the books again... ...I'm sure she'll see it...

hihi...but there are certain cute moments that just jump out...

Troll scene

"the moment" in PS/SS

The passage in CoS when Harry and Hermione show their "connection" I think it was when they were trying to decipher the diary

PoA...the entire book...

GoF, the Veela scene in the beginning.

Skip to the toast scene followed by the walk around the lake...

The accio charm practices

The Yule Ball scene "jaw dropping..."

Read all that lovely propaganda, courtesy to Rita Skeeter...

Read all the parts when Harry and Hermione defend/ comfort Hagrid..."just oozes mental connection..."

"Hermione talks about you very often..." Krum....oh lovely lovely scene....

KISS at king cross

OotP: the entire book...so many cute H/Hr moments....

There are too many H/Hr moments to take into account and everyone here has already listed great sources for finding them. Though, the only thing you need to be sure is to not overwhelming your friend with everything at one time. You know, let her think through every moment and see if she sees things the H/Hr way and such. Relaying information isn't hard...actually convincing them with what you have can be hard sometimes. I guess it does depend on your friend and how open-minded your friend is. I wish you the best of luck...it's always great to convert an R/Hr to H/Hr .

The most concrete place where we offer both canon evidence and reasonable interpetation of the books is in the Pumpkin Pie Army Essay section. Just have your friend read a couple of them. Madmike and Kalie are a couple you might want to recommend!

The best thing you could probably do is just look at all the essays here (and believe me, they're brilliant) and all of our posts...so many to choose from...print them out, highlight them, and you'll probably have all the evidence you need in about a 100 page booklet. And I'm not joking either. That's why I love this place, everyone comes up with some thing new and valid.

~Emily~

Or grasp at straws that make us sigh and squee. Funny thing is, sometimes, they have merit too!

yes they do..... one thing though.... tell your friend to be keen if ever she's going to read the books again..... I guess she's convinced of the R/Hr because of Ron's too obvious crush on hermione but let truth be told this is so one sided..... Tell her to focus on Hermione's reactions towards Harry and if she's reading OotP tell her to pay attention to all the events.... because almost all of them lead to H/Hr.....

The HMS Harmony file. Over a hundred pages of H/Hr reasons, moments, rebuttals, etc.

I read it and came out of it a more resolute believer in H/Hr, if that is actually possible.

Cool. Thanks everyone!! Oh, and Zanarkand, my friend is very open-minded. She's so much like me we could be sisters.

Man, I love friends like that!

But yeah, the essays here are brilliant, and if your friend really is open-minded, she will see all the logical reasons behind H/Hr. She'll soon be joining us here on the ship of Pumpkin Pie!!! ::squees::

Love Millie

Go the PA essay forum...Romulus Lupin, Mad Eyed Mike, and Athena could convince practically any open-minded person. Your friend reads those essays, she'll be wondering why the heck she ever thought R/Hr....

::laughs::

everyone is right!! Go to PA and show your friend. IT'll show her that it's Ron--->Hermione...

and that its Harry<--->Hermione

Love Millie

Shoot...and I was just talking to her not too long ago. I tried to convince her to visit us here and check us out to see what we have to say. But, respecting her opinion (even though I don't agree with it), I also told her to check out Sugar Quill to see if she likes what they have to say better. I hope not...

Eeek! She needs to come here, coz seriously guys, I don't think that I've ever seen more dedicated Harry/Hermione fans.
WE RULE!!! You won't find anywhere or anyone better...

Love Millie

Nope...this ship rocks. She should just come on here and soak up all the glory that is the HMS Pumpkin Pie. It's definitely worth it...

And tell her that it's yummy too. Because it is. And here, we're all like one big happy family!!!
(No, not the Weasley's)

Love Millie

I definiately don't have red hair...lol

Don't worry, we have loads of evidence that's better than any other. She'll be convinced.

Yep, I officially call us OBHPF (One Big Happy Pumpkin Family)...yep, she comes on her with an open mind, she'll leave with a closed mind (of H/Hr) and laugh that she ever thought that R/Hr could happen.

I'm working on it. She's a very busy person and doesn't get home often. And if she's home she doesn't get on her computer that much. No leisure life for her.

I like your idea Jack. My pitch to her would be "Join the One Big Happy Pumpkin Family. We'll give you pie."

OBHPF, that could also be One Big Happy Potter Family... hmmm....

No, I don't have red hair either... well... ok fine.
So I have a few unfortunate natural streaks of red, and the rest of my hair is just a blondey-brown... ::ponders:: Is it possible that both Draco and Ron impregnated Hermione? And then put me up for adoption? (so it's not possible!!! who cares?!?!?!)

::ponders more:: ::shudders::

EEEEEWWW!! That would mean that my father (one of) is also my luver....

Love Millie

Yes, ew. Ew indeed. But that does, however, remind me of a quote a foul mouthed friend of mine once uttered (or maybe I said it):

I LOVE IT!!!

We are good, we are light, we are all that is right.

I really hope your friend makes the right choice (okay, the right choice to us at least) and comes to our side. There are good points to either romance, but I personally contend (and I'm not biased...) that we have better points. H/H points are contained in these forums, in fanfiction, and, of course, in the incredible essays. I see a lot of strong-arming and forceful yelling from certain R/H sites...

But I guess we do it too...

But my main point is that we, as H/hers, try to be open to all areas of thought. Very rarely have I seen a H/Her try to get their point across by telling someone they're absurb or stupid for thinking a certain way. That's why I never visit Sugar Quill. Too militant.

Oh but that's just IMO.

This is getting a little off topic. For all that is sane, stay on topic or stay away from certain things that put cold showers to shame.

I'm starting to blush reading all of this.

I saw my friend for a short while today, but we were too busy talking another friend who's starting to get on our nerves. And yes, that other friend is also a R/Hr shipper, but she's the type to go along with the "obvious." If I could have spent more time with my friend today, H/Hr surely would have come up. I've been flipping through OotP and finding so many cute things to talk about. *Sigh* She'll come here, even if I have to drag her away from her tennis practices .

Lol...your friend will be converted in no time...and enough with the incest talk! (Even though it's hilarious)...lol, anyway, just convert her nice and slowly...it'll work!

::covers heart with hand::

I solemnly swear I will no longer talk of incest...

hmmm ::laughs evilly:: yummy...

Love Millie

I hope not! Incest is disgusting...especially in like Oedipus and other stories like that...those kind of things freak me out.

You, know, it wasn't me that brought it up... I just said it was disgusting... I could elabourate if you wish? ::raises eyebrow::

Love Millie

Please don't. We're trying to STOP talking about it. Sides' its definitely way off topic. If it continues, I'll beg a mod to shut this down.

Where does incest figure into all of this? *ugh* It's a sensitive issue for some, so I don't think it should be discussed anymore in this thread. Besides, it's illegal, isn't it? Let's keep this thread on topic, please.

Thank you! Now, what the thread about. All that earlier stuff threw me out of a loop...

Uh... Was she convinced yet?

I think we all will...

Hermione's Twin? Just get your friend to come here, then she'll be on our side...

and also get her to go H/Hr websites... I've got one thats under MAJOR construction... But yeah, I think thats all we can do...

unless you give us her e-mail address and we all bombard her with reasons behind why H/Hr is definitly better... but that wouldn't work

Love Millie

*reads thread* *eyes widen* And just think.... I had NOTHING to do with this....

erm, to convert add:

Pumpkin Pie's Army Essays
Much discussion
Confident tones and glares.

I don't really have much practice with this, Only have 1 friend who reads HP, and thinks R/Hr is most likely, but is currently sailing HMS Switzerland. And she's as stubborn as I am. I have a tall mountain to climb.

Whats Incest? Mind you I've skipped a couple of pages, doodeedoo, and there is nothing you can do about it... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ::coughs:: HAHAHAHAHA... HA

Jess~

Um....you don't really want to know about incest. Someone else explain...lol...yep, PA essays and all will convince her. I know it convinced one of my friends who was neutral.

Too bad it doesn't work on your brother, eh jackryan411?

That part of the thread is shut down Jess. May we never go back to it.

Yep...my brother's too convinced in R/Hr. And whenever I start talking about love and all, he always says, "You're 14 years old! You don't know what love means and is!" I can always say, "Neither do you, you're only 13." But I can't really make the love, trust, compassion argument which is one of our strongest ones.

Hey guys.

Well, I had another chance tonight--another football game, meaning another bus ride . My friend and I didn't talk much on the way there because we were way to busy as we're both band officers. I was going to talk to her on the way back, but the entire band had to leave right after our halftime show. A couple of our majorettes got seriously sick and one had an asthma attack and fainted . We think she's okay, but she's in the hospital right now. No one talked much on the ride back home and so my plans to bring my friend here have been thwarted again. But hey, when something serious happens, you don't start talking about Harry Potter.

Thanks Facade. Hopefully I can talk to my friend, but things just keep popping up. BTW, looks like you're on your 800th post. Congrats.

Yeah...it's okay. When something serious does happen, you don't talk about Harry Potter like you said....it's all right. We know you'll be able to convert her sooner or later.

I'm just biding my time and rereading OotP so I can pick up some of the little things that's bound to make my friend go "Awww." There are so many though .

Good news is my friend and I get to spend a couple hours after school together pitting our brains against other people's. I'm sure I can talk to her then .

Harry Potter is the sourse of all life, you take it away then you take away our lives... I would consider "Harry Potter" a very importent topic, wouldn't you?

Jess~

Even with Harry in a coma, you still we're kind enough to make us laugh and talk about Harry Potter. Of course it's important.

While Harry was in his coma, I think Harry Potter, my books, and this website that was the only thing keeping me sane. I probably would have broken down if it wasn't for them.

Jess~