Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I have heard that the word "platonic" is a good thing. I can't remember who said it. I really don't like using that word, because it makes everything so confusing.

I would also prefer platonic trio over R/Hr. And yeah, I trust JKR's writing skills, so she'll probably make romance very In- character. I hope so...

Platonic is a damn good thing, I can't remember what it means, but anyway...
As the characters are growing, I can see some of them developing and getting together. I don't believe that Harry will just start snogging Hermione, if anything happens, it'll be cute and grow from there. I would rather that the trio stay simply friends than R/Hr, but we all know it'll be H/Hr ::sniggers evily::

Love Millie

I would prefer they all stay platonic, rather than have to see R/Hr. In fact, i'd prefer a very graphic love scenes between Hagrid, Ron, Dumbledor and a watermelon rather than having to see any R/Hr :throws up:
I think I could probably see H/Hr getting together. Maybe they won't until the very, very end though *crosses fingers and hopes that they'll be together at some point*

love
Heather

Even though I would be sad if H/Hr didnt get together, I wouldnt mind them all staying platonic.

But I agree with Zanarkland..

Unlike you guys, I can definetly see H/Hr happening, much like Zanarkland suggested. I dont think it will be like 'lets shag' or anything like that.. I think it will be cute and innocent.
Y'know....

Anyways, I definetly think H/Hr will happen and thats just my humble opinion.

~*Amanda

that thought occured to me to, but i have a feeling that two of the three will get together *crosses fingers* Please Harry and Hermione please!!! And If H/H does happen, I trust that JKR will make it as beautiful as we all imagined it... Im a little too mushy today...lol!

I think Zanarkand's right...not to mention his version would be incredibly cute...sigh, just a gentle kiss. I love it! That would be ultimate triumph for me...yeah, I don't see Book 6 as a snog-fest either, but I'd love to see that happen...I don't see the trio staying platonic at all, unless they all die in Book 6 at the very beginning....

Oh i just love Zanarkands idea of the H/H realtionship!! It made me feel all warm and fluffy inside *sigh* thats the way it should be...Sweet and Innocent *sigh*

I could see her writing it...it's harder for me to imagine R/Hr in a romantic scene together (it's even worse when I write it! I'm writing a fiction currently where I have some sort of romantic scenes with Ron and Herm...and it's strange...it also might be because the story is ultimately an H/Hr story...don't worry I haven't gone traitor) I can see her doing it very subtly, sometimes showing love doesn't even have to be a kiss, it could be something as subtle as say, Hermione holding Harry's hand for the first time and I could definitely see that.

~Emily~

I actually believe that a relationship might happen. After all, it's already proven that JKR will give a Harry a relationship (Poor as it was). Something is bound to happen, especially with Ron's jealousy.

I too would rather have the trio just stay as friends rather than seeing R/Hr...well actually it would be any combination aside from H/Hr. Though, just like Jack, Amanda, and Aramas (a.k.a. KaiserDragon) said...something is going to happen with the trio.

However, I also believe that seeing Harry and Hermione get together *crossing fingers* isn't going to be as easy and fluffy as we would all like. Just after reading OotP, we know that J.K. Rowling is going to make the living hell Harry is living in far worse with book six. Hermione will definitely be his emotional support and Ron's humor will be valued for lightening the mood. In the end, this will cause the three to grow closer (well at least Ron and Hermione will grow closer to Harry)...and that may cause some conflict for Harry, especially if Ron does have feelings for Hermione.

In terms of the sixth book, we are more likely to receive a tear-jerker and angst (and self-control to keep us from chucking the book against the wall) than a nice fluffy fairytale. Though...I do believe that the "teasers leading up to the final kiss" will somewhat happen...but good old fashion teenage angst will be tossed into the mix.

Yes, I would rather have the trio stay platonic than reading R/Hr...but I hope it won't happen! And besides, if JK ever writes R/Hr, I don't think it'll last......H/Hr forever!!!

There was was note made in the essay section about how JKR's first marrige was crap cause she and her former spouse didn't get along. Then her second marrige was much better because her husband reminds her of Harry. Then I was reminded that JKR based herself on Hermione. Real life applications? I think so. JKR learned, and she putting it in her book!

You remembered my name! Thanx Zanarkand!

Nice job Aramas/KaiserDragon! I think that is very interesting...I think I read somewhere that JKR talked about being attracted to who she first married "immediately" and I bet there was lots of "sexual tension." But now she ends up with a guy who even looks like Harry and she says reminds her of Harry...and she's Hermione. Remember also that Ron is based off her best friend. Anyway, Zanarkand is right about the next book being angsty and all.

When someone is out to kill you, you lost family, and everything you know is in danger, hell yes. There's gonna be a lot of angst coming. JKR stated once in an interview that there was a lot of deaths coming. After she killed off Sirius, I believe it...

You know I actually thought that this would happen. I couldn't really picture a future H/Hr relationship, I just wish it will happen, and I believe Hermione is really the only girl for Harry. But, who knows what will happen? JKR is the only one who knows, and she may even change her mind about it. Just thinking about it is going to drive me insane... that woman is evil. EVIL DAMNIT!

Jess~

No, just an annoying genius. She might change her mind about somethings, but most of it has been mapped out, so what we read soon, chances are, they were planned in advance.

Ok point number one... Plantonic is GOOD if you take it by the acualy definition in the dictionary. People these days don't acually ue it corectly.

Point number 2 (really an opinion)... I in no way see it out of charecter for H/Hr to fall for eachother. Is it really out of charecter to fall in love with a girl whom you already care about deeply? If you ask me the best relationships are not only with your boyfriend, girlfriend or husband and wife, but with your best friend as well. (I'm to sure if i worded that corectly, any questions then post them ) Havn't you ever read a fic!!!???!!!

I think that most of you (pls dont take this ofensivly cause i in no way mean it to, and i oviosly could be wrong im not a telapath.) are fealing this way cause it might be one of those "too good to be true things" if it happend... or mabe your just trying to prepare yourself for the worst. Cause i can't relate at all with the it being OOC for them to fall in love, not at all.
Thats abour it

~Love Tony

Yeah, Jack and I were talking about how Plato (The philosopher) stated that too in another thread. "Marrige is the best friendship" was something I heard from somewhere.

Yup...and I think that that's right. Marriage should be the best friendship...and platonic isn't bad anymore. I no longer worry about it....at any rate, I firmly believe that H/Hr will happen. I don't think the trio will stay non-romantic at all.

Yeah, I believe they call it "growing up". I personally hate it

Well, I also believe there's a huge chance there will be trio romance. But try to really picture this, for example:

Harry put his hands around Hermione's slender waist. She turned around and kissed him on the lips.
"Where have you been?"
"You know, the library"
"Oh, that shouldn't surprise me much"
Hermione supressed a giggle and snuggled into Harry's chest. Ron came in a few minutes later.
"What's up? Oh, do I interrupt something?"
Harry and Hermione smiled at each other.
"No, not at all"
Later...
"Harry... please be careful. Remember de prophecy. I can't live without you, please be careful"
"Don't worry. I shall never leave your side, cuz you mean the world to me"
They shared a passionate kiss and Harry ran off to face Voldemort.

I mean... it seems so WEIRD!! Same thing with R/Hr!! Don't you think? I mean, yeah, I picture a very pretty, shy, declaration of feelings, but can you really picture the relationship itself??? How would it be?

First off, plantonic is an absolutely wonderful thing. Check out this essay Origin, history, and usage of the word platonic

Secondly, I've also had a tough time imagoning JKR changing any of their relationships into a romantic one. I'm sorry to say I can see her doing hr/r more so than H/Hr but on a bright note, I think she would have it end in flames by the end of book 6.

If...I mean WHEN H/Hr happens I don't think JKR will have it until rather late in book 7. Hardly enough time time to get any good snogging in.

Dreamcatcher you do point something out...it's hard to imagine JKR writing what we often see in fanfics. Personally, I believe there might be one soft, gentle kiss between Harry and Hermione and that's it. Like right before, he goes off to face Voldemort. It'll be pretty much understood between each other what they feel for each other. D'you know what I mean?

dreamcatcher_3107 I can picture it. I agree with Zanarkand. There will be no snog-fest, and we have fandom for smut (and what wonderful smut it is *cough*). After all the angst there will be a simple, cute first kiss. Strangely enough, the trio all remaining good friends without any romance confusing things is the scenario I find to picture. Keeping things so amicable between the trio seems like such a safe option, and JKR does not go for safe options, or no-one would die in her books.

*sigh* And now this thread has given me a first-kiss bunny, which I am working on and its already longer than my drabbles. Will try to finish it in the next couple of days, it will need much tweaking.

Just as long as HP ends with H/Hr I'll be happy. I have a good imagination, I can come up with the rest myself. I just want it to be H/Hr, even if it is a little kiss.

Thanx for the compliment Zanarkand. You believe how much flak I get about my name in school. For some reason, people forget it, or mispronounce it. You say it as you read it.

Yeah, if there's just one kiss, there's enough awesome fanfiction authors to give us the smut and snog-fests. I highly doubt that the trio will stay in friendship (I need to find a new word for platonic since that doesn't really count as a word meaning 'just friends' anymore)...

jackryan411, I like amiable, rather than platonic. Unless someone can think of something better...

That's a good one...since platonic is no longer a bad word...amiable or amicable would be good.

What's with all these one-liners, Marshmallow? You don't want the mods to get upset with you...anyway, platonic is decent to good for H/Hr. It's not "great" or anything because of it's commonly accepted definiton, but it's not bad either.

jackryan411, I think you are right. A good way to write it would be kiss ---> Voldie ---> Happy Ending.
Considering the way JKR wrote the H/C kiss anyway...

Yeah...there won't be like you said, a scene where Harry and Hermione start kissing and then start talking about the prophecy (as you showed.) It'll just be one soft, gentle kiss...they'll know what they mean to each other...then Harry will go and face Voldemort...JKR will write her epilogue of Harry and Hermione living happily ever after...and then the series is over...(sob)....

Yeah I don't love the idea either.... but hey, it's H/Hr in the end! Besides, we still have fanfiction to satisfy our inner smutty selves.

Yup....that's where we'll have to go 'cause JKR ain't gonna give us any major snog-fests....fanfics will be the key for our guttural minds.

What you'd have to remember is that you couldn't expect a fanfiction romance between the two. There wouldn't be time for it, and it'd be out of place, besides. Not to mention the fact that since the book is ONLY written from Harry's perspective, it'd make the whole thing a little lopsided, wouldn't it?
It'd basically be more of an emotional relationship than a physical one. Harry and Hermione looking out for each other and being there for each other. Though that's not that hard. She's been doing that more and more as the books have progressed. Or am I the only one who hasn't failed to notice this aspect.

Does this mean we'll never see a kiss between Harry and Hermione?
No, possibly not. We might get a nice treat.

Does this mean that we'll get detailed or implied accounts of the two having snog-fests?
Most certainly not. Most people here assumed that when Rowling said "More Ron and Hermione, I'd say," They thought that she was sealing their fate as a couple. But she merely meant that it'd be more in character for Ron and Hermione to have a relationship that dwelled only in the physical, not the emotional, as Ron is the typical "male" when it comes to what he'd like in a relationship, as opposed to Harry, who has shown that he's more interested in being with someone and enjoying it, as opposed to snogging them senseless.

So don't assume that they'll stay platonic. I don't think it'll happen, myself. Wait and see.

Well, I think dreamcatcher was just stating what if they stayed platoinc because it would be kind of weird to see Harry and Hermione engage in a snog-fest. I do think that you're right in that it will be more emtional, than physical. I do think that there'll be at least one H/Hr kiss, but it won't be a long fanfic-y one.

I thought we had agreed to use amiable, rather than platonic. Platonic is the good word, remember? *wink*

In an effort to answer this question, I've written my first one-shot. Link is below. I hope you like, personally I think it could use some work. Criticism is welcome but please, be gentle.

Just After the Beginning

I've just read it Anazecria! It's really good, and it could most certainly happen!!!
And yeah, 'Platonic' is now a GOOD word!!! Hehe! Thanks Jack!

Argh...I wish I had more time to read it but I'm working on this Greek mythology project so I can't....anyway, platonic is definitely no longer a bad word. I was debating with a few R/Hr shippers and they brought up platonic and when I just started laughing, they asked me what was wrong...they thought that I should've been scared...nope, platonic's definitely good.

Greek mythology...hehe...I remember having to do stuff like that back in school...wow talk about reminising. But anyways...I just read your fic Anazecria and I give it . You should really consider submitting it to the fanfiction section in Portkey and the fanfiction section on the site!

The argument of the word "platonic" has been raised by my friends before when they bicker (hehe...I'm known to be the quiet one during those disputes...occasionally spouting off something when I see fit), though my friends, both H/Hr's and R/Hr's don't really like using it as an argument. Reason being that they feel it isn't very concrete and has so many holes because of how the intepretation can be perceived. Yes, it is very true, that platonic does mean "loving someone who doesn't know about it" (very simplified definition), but not everyone sees that as its proper definition. More than likely, they see platonic as a "strictly friends" sort of thing...even though the true definition states otherwise. The overal confusion about it, usually causes my friends to leave that argument out of their usually bantering.

I believe "platonic" is a very good word and I do believe that J.K. Rowling is trying to give us a hint about Harry and Hermione's relationship. Though that is something that we Pumpkineers see...it isn't a very easy task to make other shippers see it.

Yeah...platonic is definetly fun now. I think it's interesting that neither of your friends bring it up because they feel that it's not concrete---which it isn't. JKR is being a tricksy little Hobbit as usual.

Oh yeah...J.K. Rowling is a trickster all right. Hmmm...just a random and very off topic thought that just sparked in my head. Wouldn't their be some sort of hidden message if J.K. Rowling ended the Harry Potter series with Hermione and Ron ending up together. I mean...if Ron is mostly based off her best friend and Harry is mostly based off her husband and Hermione mostly based off of her...you put two and two together and get a very interesting situation. But yeah...I know that I'm reaching with that one, and I have no right to speak off J.K. Rowling life...but it's just an interesting thought.

You know...I used to hate the word platonic until I saw this site....a couple months ago...I feel like an idiot for not finding it sooner.
Oh well....me stupid sometimes...
My sister watched this show while I was online and I heard, "Oh, we'll have a fun but platonic time...it will just be platonic." but then they end up with a huge snoggy snog fest!! Hehehe...platonic huh? hehehe....

Well, ne ways JKR always has me guessing....has ne one been to Lexicon? They have practically all JKR quotes. I have looked on there for info for the next books but she ends up confusing me when she writes about the relationships between the trio...it is like she hasn't decided who is with who or wants to please everyone...Here let me find some quotes....


"There will also be further romance following on from Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire in which he has a date with a quidditch team-mate - and develops more of an interest in pal Hermione."

- On whether Harry and his friend Hermione will have a date when they get older: "No, but I won't answer for anyone else - nudge, nudge, wink, wink."

JKR: *looking through questions* No, don’t like that one. Oh, I like this one… do Harry and Hermione have a date? [laughter] No. They are – they’re very platonic friends. But I won’t answer for anyone else, nudge, nudge, wink, wink. [laughter and sound of kids going “Aaah!”]


"She is the most brilliant of the three and they need her. Harry needs her badly."

But there is also this one


I like this one....hehehe

: "Harry is changing as he's getting older. He and his friends are 14 now and their hormones are kicking in, so it's really fun to write about. Everyone's in love with the wrong person, it's brilliant."


Yeah well, she ends up confusing me too much...I practically think I can't trust her at all...no fair! She likes to trick me....I am sure she thinks it is fun to do that....!

She is messing with my mind....Ugh!

There was another interview before OotP came out...I can't remember where I found it but it is somewhere out there....it was just before OotP came out.

A lady and her were talking and the lady said something like, "so...are we going to see harry and hermione snogging in this book,"

JKR (can't find the word) said (in a tone like how why you think that...kind of like the nudge nudge thing) "Harry and Hermione...you really think so?" (something like that...I can't find the interview...sorry.)

Well...Adios...

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BlueMoon

It's really hard to analyize JKR's quotes, because she is very ambiguous and confusing. Not to mention, she contradicts herself many times. I recommed you read Athena's brilliant analysis of JKR's quotes in the "Pumpkinpie's Army" forum.

Thanks, Kalie, I'll go do that!

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BlueMoon

Yeah, JKR is a trickster...it's a bit confusing. Athena's essay is really good and it's also going to be on our PP site...Zanarkand, you're right about the whole R/Hr thing...pretty weird, no?


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