Thanks for the link...here's what I basically say in it:

Professor McGonagall:

Hmm, I don't necessarily want to make Harry and Hermione parallels to Lily and James, though it is a nice thought. We don't really know what their relationship was like but it doesn't seem like Lily and James were friends like Harry and Hermione. But how about this: Several people have made the theory that Professor McGonagall and Dumbledore have "something going on." I can't really back this up to an extreme extent (and we really don't know about their relationship since Harry doesn't often observe the romantic connections between professors) but I can't say that I haven't seen it either. They are incredibly close, if anything, Minerva (using this name to make it more personal) is Albus's right hand woman, the one person he can count on, the one person who would defend him through anything and risk her life to do so. Understandably, this doesn't mean that they are a couple or married or whatever. However, I do believe that relationship goes beyond that of two professional colleagues. At the very least, Minerva and Albus are best friends.

Now, with that being said (and I'm just throwing this out there, do take it with a grain of salt, I'm not sure if it's plausible) what if it is not Lily and James they see in Harry and Hermione, but themselves? If you look at it that pairing there are parallels too. Albus has to take on this daunting task of having Harry Potter at his school, making sure he stays alive and safe, all while trying not to get emotionally involved. And he has expended a great deal of his awesome magical power to do so. And we know that Minerva has been by Albus's side without question from the beginning. When he's gone, he trusts that she can handle herself and is prepared to hand her a responsibility that big to watch Harry while he is gone. Hmm...so who does that remind us of? Well, if there is any validity at all to my opinion I'd say that Harry and Hermione are much more like Albus and Minerva when it comes to relationship parallels. Harry, now has his own daunting task ahead, to fulfill a prophecy he knows can change the world, that has resulted in the deaths of people he loves, and that may continue to do so. And though Hermione doesn't know about it yet, when she does find out , as painful as it may be for her to take at first, I think from her growth as character we can assume that she wouldn't leave Harry's side for anything, no matter how difficult the future will be. We can assume that she would risk her life and stand by him through thick and thin, just like Minerva McGonagall has stood by and supported Albus Dumbledore.

~Emily~

Not to mention that Hermione is constantly compared to Professor McGonagall....and you can certainly see the parallels from Harry to Dumbledore. While we don't know the relationship extent of D/McG, I can definitely see the possibilities. And yes, I don't see much Lily and James in these two....at least not what we've seen so far.

I agree with everyone else.
Cho, Krum, McGonnagall, Ron, etc; they have definitely noticed something.
Although I'm sure if I get a bit skeptical I'll find an explanation for each quote, I feel shippy today.

Lol...that's okay! Cho and Krum are almost indefensible...McGonagall is an easy one to see and Ronnie's definitely getting suspicious. I do think some of the others (like Creevey) also see the Pumpkin Pie clearly.

McGonagall...yeah that is an easy one. Krum and Chang because well, it is obvious that they are jealous of the "best friend,"

though Ron, hmm...if y'all are talking about the "How do you know if he kisses good" thing (not direct quote sorry) hmm...maybe. I think Ron is too stupid (stupid in a funny nice way) to realize it, but maybe he feels competition with Harry...which I feel is likely, since they are both males and they are friends with a female, it is natural to feel that. Uh...who else?

Oh yeah...Colin does see it...with the whole Rita Skeeter article...me stupid sometimes.

Dumbledore sees everything, but I have no evidence that he supports H/Hr, but I have a strong feeling that is will..he he. Oh wait, he was the one who told Harry and Hermione to go back in time and ride Buckbeak to save Sirius! Hmm...smart one you are Albus!

Molly Weasley fell for the Rita Skeeter Love Triangle article so she must think it is likely that Harry and Hermione can get together.

Remus and Sirius...hmmm...Sirius, I love him dearly, but I don't think that that ever weighted on his mind. Remus is a smarty, he might know something...though sorry ...No tengo "evidence."

Hagrid, bless him for I thought he'd be the chosen one in Book 5, I can see him looking at Harry and Hermione with a lil twinkle in his eye also Dumbledore too. But I would be a little nervous about giving him secrets if I was Harry or Hermione, he might spill the beans...oh wait thats a good thing. Heh Heh....

Well,
Love and Luck and Pumpkin Pie (Oh yeah Halloween is coming up!! Yay!!)
BlueMoon

Draco sees it, I definately think he does. Excert from OOTP:

'Tell me, how does it feel being second-best to Weasley, Potter?' he asked.
'Shut up, Malfoy,' said Hermione sharply.
'I seem to have touched a nerve,' said Malfoy, smirking.

Here, Hermione sticks up for Harry even though it has nothing to do with her. Malfoy picks this up and sees something.

Other characters that see H/Hr:

McGonagall (this is more obvious as posted before), Ron (post-Cho scene where he thinks Hermione might of kissed Harry), maybe Hagrid (not too sure of this yet), Krum and Cho (both jealous of H/Hr), Colin & Rita (journalists), Weasley (Witch Weekly Mag), Ginny? (reason she might have given up on Harry)

What about Dumbledore? I don't know, for some reason, I see him a closet H/Hr shipper. Especially after PoA.

Yeah...I put him on there, but I couldn't think of any lines to prove it...um, Draco yeah, definitely. I actually have him on my list but I didn't put him on the one I posted here! Yeah, the touched a nerve line definitely showed me something.

v@sh-you are right! I really liked the references to Draco in the book....that does seem likely. Oh and by the way...Welcome to Portkey...*gives a friendly nudge to the shoulder* you're gonna like it here!

Though, I think I am going to change my own opinion about Mrs. Weasley, I personally don't get the feeling that Hermione is liked by Mrs. Weasley...especially after the Rita article, but maybe she feels like Hermione is a threat to her, since she is so close to both the boys and with her around the boys seemingly won't need Mrs. Weasley. Well, I get the feeling, so don't judge me too harshly!

WELL,
Love, Luck, and Rita Skeeter Articles!
BlueMoon

I definitely agree with McGonagall, Krum, and Cho. And yes, I think Ron too. I think he started to realize it when Harry and Hermione started to spend more time together . Then he gave Harry that look on the train when Ginny was talking about not dating Michael anymore. Yep, he totally wants Harry to go with Ginny.

As for Mrs. Weasley, I don't think she feels threatened about being replaced, I think she's just looking out for Harry. Remember in OotP she said he was as much of a son as the rest of her children. She looks after her kids, so she'll look after Harry too.

Mrs. Weasley...hmmm....I don't think she likes Hermione very much easier. We were discussing this over on the old OotP forum and I think that yes, Mrs. Weasley might betray the Order. To give them Harry? No. Give them Hermione in return for her own family's safety. Could it happen? I think so.

I have a feeling that Mrs. Weasley would rather see Hermione with Ron and Ginny with Harry (an OBHWF shipper ), but I do get the impression that she feels that this ideal is being threatened by something happening between Hermione and Harry. Her reaction to the Skeeter article was somewhat unexpected for me: if she had had a chance to observe Harry and Hermione's--entirely "platonic"--interactions over their stay at the Burrow, why would she be so suspicious of allegations made by a woman she knows is not trustworthy?

Either Molly is a paranoid matchmaking mother or she's picked up on something that Harry has yet to realize.

Mothers usually can tell what's going on in their kids lives. I'm not a mom (come on I'm only 21) but they usually know what's up. So do women for that matter. Women's intuition. Why do you think lots of girls were jealous. They wouldn't jump to conclusions unless they really saw some sparkage between Harry and Hermione, especially Cho.

~Emily~

I agree with what everyone is saying about Cho, Krum, McGonagall, and Mrs. Weasley.

One more I would like to add to the list would be Dobby. I know Dobby really likes Harry, but he seems to go out of his to make 'Harry's friend' believe she is making the houselves happy. I know Hermione is always kind to Dobby, but he seems awfully nice to keep picking up the stuff she is knitting for the houselves.

cookiemonster

I'm just being silly when I say this, but I know a part of me would like to believe what I'm going to see is really valid and serious, but what about Crookshanks? I know, I know, crazy right? But seriously...if anything, Crookshanks likes Harry an awful lot. He always nuzzles him and is always very friendly to Harry, but Crookshanks seems to really hate Ron. I know that is probably b/c he was mean to him since the day Hermione got him, but Crookshanks seemed to warm up to Harry without Harry even trying to be remotely nice to him. They say that pets often pick up the traits of their owner or vice-versa and pets in the Magical World are doubly intelligent it seems. Would it be too far fetched to say that the reason Crookshanks is nice to Harry is because he knows that Hermione likes him? I know I'm grasping for straws, but let me know what you think.

~Emily~

Emily, you're not crazy at all. In fact, I've heard many H/Hr arguments and discussions that seem to involve Crookshanks. What you are saying is pretty logical actually.

I completely forgot about Crookshanks. I agree about that. Yes, Crookshanks is nice to Harry. I actually believe Hermione talks about Harry to Crookshanks that Crookshanks believes Harry is nice.

Crookshanks does like Harry a lot...could be possible. I do think that Crookshanks is a smart cat and he KNOWS...lol...anyway, yeah, Harry WOULD NOT be able to forgive Mrs. Weasley for that.

There's a theory that Crookshanks is a kneazle. That could be plausable.

Hell, her own family wouldn't forgive her. Selling out the life of a human to protect another? Unless it Hermione gives her okay, that's bull. It's unforgivable, even to protect your family.

No one would forgive her, but I could definitely see her doing it...the Kneazle theory's interesting but I don't think so. It's too obvious, in my opinion. I don't know...

Kneazles: Scored 2 mentions in OotP. I believe Crookshanks is part-Kneazle. They can be cross-bred with cats. If he were full Kneazle, his appearance would be far more unusual (and Fantastic Beasts says wizards/witches need licenses to own one because their appearance attracts Muggle curiousity). If there is something special about Crookshanks (and JKR has hinted at it in interviews), we will find out in Book 6. The only thing I wonder is if he is part-Kneazle, does Hermione know that? I'd be surprised if she didn't notice this, being the clever witch she is, but why not mention it? Sigh...

Molly Weasley: Surely everyone has heard my thoughts on Molly by now. I don't think her response to the articles means much. I've given my thoughts on that earlier in this thread. I don't see Jack's scenario happening, rather I see her Molly-Coddling as leading to a serious, catastrophic blunder. I don't see open betrayal on her part. I see her shielding Harry from critical information or something like that. Or maybe she mistakenly trusts Percy. A number of things could happen. But I don't see Molly making a deal using Hermione. I'm Seeing a lot, but my crystal ball is foggy. Is there a crystal ball equivalent for pepper-up potion?

[QUOTE]Krum (The famous "I vant to know vot there is between you and Herm-own-ninny" and also, "She talks about you often...")[QUOTE]

Guys you are missing a very important frase here "I vant to know vot there is between you and Herm-own-ninny" and the "She talks about you very often..."



Sorry just wanting to make sure it's put up right more powerful that way


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If there is something special about Crookshanks (and JKR has hinted at it in interviews), [QUOTE]

Do you have a link please?

Certainly. Courtesy of Quick-Quotes, Click here

Anazecria, thanks for the links!

Crookshanks is part Kneazle isn't he? I'm sure JKR said so somewhere. Interesting theory that Crookshanks also sees the H/Hr connection, and as much I'd like to believe it I just think Crookshanks knows how to choose who is truthful and who is not (Scabbers & Sirius), plus Harry is Sirius's godson so of course Crookshanks would like Harry. A little off topic there .

DD is interesting, maybe a closet H/Hr shipper but not enough evidence to back it up. I wonder what the teacher's reactions to the H/Hr Rita Skeeter article, would of been interesting.

JKR never reveals anything. I doubt she said anything about Crookshanks being part kneazel.

well here is my list:

1. Cho(from OoTP).
"Your its Dear Hermione idea.." or something like that...

2. Krum..(GoF)
telling Harry: "Hermio-nee talked alot about you" Harry said: "that because we are friend" then Krum watch Harry walking away with Jealous expression on his face..or something like that.

3. Hadrid: I don't have any proved but I sure he notice to.
4. Prof. McGonagall (from CoS)
after she cancel Quidditch Match and walk up to, "Potter! you have come with me...you and Mr. Weasley have to see something, she walked with Harry and then Ron to Hospital wing..and see Hermione freeze on bed. Harry was shocked. She went to Harry first....to tell him about Hermione

Ginny
Dumbledore
heck..the whole Hogwarts student and prof. know...well expec for H/HR.

Agreed...hmmm...the Kneazle thing is interesting, but it's so common and widespread of a theory (that it's almost become canon in some places) that I sometimes wonder if it's actually true...I would think JKR might surprise us. (shrug)

Ok here comes my new list, with what i think and explanations for some of em.

DEFINATELY SEES AND KNOW THEY SEE:
Mcgonagall-all the quotes listed above
Vicky-no explanation needed
Cho-same as above

POSSIBLES:
Colin-i left him out of the definates because im not exactly sure on him, as somebody else said, in the Skeeter interview he just said they are rarely out of the company of each other. That doesnt neccassiraly mean he thinks so, but i dunno, im just gonna keep him here until someone can prove otherwise or new canon evidence.

Molly- once again, the Skeeter incident makes you think, but shes not positive.

Ginny- her and Hermione have talked no doubt, she's Hermiones 3rd best friend really, she may have noticed something, I believe she does still have unresolved feelings for Harry, but who knows, however im pretty sure if H/Hr were to happen, even if she has feelings for Harry still, she would take it easier then Ron, its just in her character, Ron could see it, he's prob just in denial, so im not putting him up here.

Crookshanks- he's part kneazle according to hp-lexicon.org, not to mention the description of a kneazle in FB fits some of the things hes done pretty well, but if he sees it, hes not talking, literally.

Hagrid- He may have noticed something with all the time hes spent around the trio, i cant use the Grawp fiasco as evidence because he was pretty distracted about possibly being sacked,

UNCERTAINS:

Dumbledore- the Lord of Secrets himself, once again, i believe he's a closet h/hr, he's a very wise person, he would have noticed something, hes just not talking, so no real evidence for him.

Gred and Forge- the prefect thing may have meant something to them, not to mention all the other times, but then again,they dont take alot seriously so they might not have taken it seriously, if they would have noticed, they would prob tease H/Hr about it. No real evidence for them though.

Ron-he has great observational skills, if not superb, its something that comes from years of playing chess, Ron is a strategist/tactician, no doubt, they notice/see things that most people dont. He probaly has noticed something, he's most likely in denial about it though, no real evidence for him.

Tonks- she just strikes me as the type to notice these sort of things easily, no real evidence though *shrugs*

Real!Moody- that damn eye is on Harry 90% of the time when hes near him, he may have noticed something when they were at Grimmauld Place.

Fake!Moody- that auror comment makes ya think, but we'll never know his opinion.

Sirius-He thought of Harry like James, i dunno, he prob knew how Harry's brain works then, Sirius really gets me thinking sometimes, but we'll never know about him *sniffs* unless some1 else says what he thought.

Remus- we know his werewolfness gives him heightened senses, most notably smell and hearing, not to mention it also gives him a sort of a extraperceptory sense about things, he most likely has picked up on something, im pretty sure we'll know about him in due time.

Luna-she's new, however the DoM alone makes her a lesser major character if not major, she is smart despite being weird, she may have seen something, just no evidence for her.

Snivellus-hes a real toughy, however legillimency may have allowed him to see what h/hr or at least h do not, but no evidence for him.

UNKNOWNS(PEOPLE I THINK WHO HAVENT SEEN IT OR GIVEN NO REAL REACTION):

Arthur-no reaction
Dean and Seamus- prob havent seen it
Lavender and Parvati-havent seen it or no reaction
Bill-dunno about him
Charlie-same as above
Percy-his opinion doesnt matter anyways.
Dung-too drunk all the time.
The other professors-no reaction or havent noticed.
Voldemort-H hasnt given off a strong enough feeling yet for him to notice it.
Angelina, Alicia and Katie-they havent spent enough time around the trio to notice anything really.

THE TWO IT INVOLVES:
Hr-well she's smart, and like the rest of yall i think she has realized/noticed her feelings, however she may be holding back because of Ron or she does not fully comprehend the feelings yet, mostly though shes not the type to just say it outright, i think she wants to be 100% sure of them.

H-he's pretty dense, we know that, he's got alot going on also, aside from that, with the denseness also, he either hasnt developed feelings, or he hasnt noticed them.

Okay, this next character gets his own section, because im bout to go into something with him.

NEVILLE-
Ive been giving him alot of thought over the past few days,he has been occupying about 70% of my HP related thoughts ever since i first thought about this theory.

Anyways,Yes Neville, he should be between definately sees and possibles, i think either he has seen the pie or is dangerously close to seeing it.
FIRST MEETING- he may have noticed something there but didnt pay it no mind.

THE HUG-"HARRY, ITS HERMIONE" not "HARRY, RON, ITS HERMIONE" that says something to me.

YULE BRAWL/4th YEAR- Asking Hr to the dance, finding out she has a date, his first reaction may have been its H, we dont know for sure though.

5th YEAR- he may have slowly picked up on things after time, slowly realized feelings for Ginny, but wasnt sure of them, so didnt act.

Pre-DoM-feelings for Ginny somewhat, decides to defend her, he sees Hermiones extremely frantic and quick thinking to avoid Harry being crucio'd, thinking its just friendship. He sees Hermione not wanting to be left behind when Harry and Ron go ahead.

DoM-seeing Hr hurt, H's franticness, this most likely clicked something for him, he sees what they have, he knows he will never have this with Hr despite having feelings for her that are most likely still unresolved.

Post-DoM- He most likely sees it, he gives up on Hermione, he knows her heart was given away before he even had a chance for it, he sees Ginny has chosen Dean, but she just chose him , he most likely knows her heart is not given away just yet, he may think he has a chance with her still, or he may develop feelings for Luna, only time will tell.

However, all of this has lead me to believe that Neville has seen the pie, or is very close to seeing it.

All of this is my beliefs and of course just theories, shrug. Its just what i think, so no need for you r/hrs out there to go on offense

Stncold, I like it. I definitely agree with you and Neville is a very intriguing possible H/Hr shipper. I think after seeing them in the DoM, Neville's too bright a boy not to see the pie. I think he sees it. I don't know if he supports it (I think he would, after all he likes Ginny) but he's definitely seen it. Nice work, Stncold!

At the very least, he's noticed what the rest of the school might notice, that Harry and Hermione are together all the time. That has to mean something.

Hmmm...but Ron's usually with them too. But I guess anyone could see the naturalness of H/Hr.

Yeah, Ron's there too a lot, but Harry and Hermione mostly go on adventures together. Ron usually gets hurt and can't come...

I like it when Ron gets hurt. makes me wanna smile. *smiles*

whenever Ron and 'Mione are together, Harry's usually there too, except for the summer break at the beginning of book 5. that's why he was upset.

he was fearing my worst fear; Ron and Hermione playing Cluedo!

Merging this with an older thread ~gal-texter

Okay, dunno if this has been done before, but I'd like to know,..

are there situations where other characters say something shippy for H/HR?

I know there's Cho with her darling Hermione thing *grins* but are there any other 'hints' towards the couple?



Maybe the time when McGonnagall interupted Harry from his Quidditch match, to alarm HIM about Hermione,.. (and just because Ron was there she made him come too, the redhaired git, no idea when it's time to NOT appear in a scene)

oooh! and Viktor! what about Viktor?

I think this has been done before, but there is no harm in doing it again.

Yes, Victor said a lot of things that made us H/Hr shippers squee. Like when he told Harry that Hermione talks about him a lot. Or something along those lines...

Professor McGonnagall in book 2 thought there was something between those two. She asked Harry to go to the hostpital wing with her then when Ron came by, it was like an after thought...

What does Draco see between H/H?

Question for all H/Hr shippers: Does Draco see "something" going on between Harry and Hermione?

Many R/Hrers blame Draco's teasing of H/Hr solely on Rita Skeeter's articles, but OotP brings in new evidence.

It's rather like how Hermione is the only one of them who has an emotional reaction when Umbridge threatens and tries to use the curse on Harry.
I find that interesting: do the others see Harry as the strong, rather invulnerable, leader whereas Hermione, Harry's equal, recognises his vulnerability.
Draco definately notices Hermione's reaction. She's usually the one who mutters "ignore them" when Malfoy and the Slytherins are insulting any of the trio.
Draco sees Harry and Hermione as his chief opponents. In COS when he doesn't know Harry is hearing him - Knockturn Alley and Slytherin Common Room - he specifically complains about both of them.

Also, Hermione is aware that Harry is at the end of his tether, what with the recent upheavels such as the 'silence' from his two friends over the summer, to having Ron become Prefect when it was obvious that everyone else expected him to get it.
So for Malfoy to make his comment about being second best is only rubbing salt into a wound that's already festering. Harry already feels and has felt second best because at first he thought his two friends were having fun without him and that he'd been ignored, then the Prefect badge arrives and to a boy who is not used to be the non focus (which admittedly he always has been before) the Weasley family throw Hermione and Ron a big party (not that they shouldn't) but we know that Harry is not happy about it and is shall we say, a little selfish and certainly jealous of his friends.
I think mostly Hermione was trying to ward off another bout of Harry feeling 'second best' just because Malfoy was making a point of it. It's bad enough that his own friends make him feel that way (unintentionally) without his enemy sticking the knife in.
I think too, as you stated that Hermione is very likely a little 'nervous' as her own feelings of protection for her friend come into play, and she is probably a little surprised by her outburst which can be seen as being an 'unexpected' comment from her. Something she blurted out.

ooooooooh! I like this... ::runs off and pats Draco on the back::

good boy!!!

anyway, I overlooked this I must say. I didn't realise that no-one else stood up for him...

Harry wasn't being selfish... he had pms...



Love Millie

Actually like Polaris15 said or rather implied.... I think Hermione was definitely unnerved by the comment Draco made about Harry because she for one was startled about Ron being Prefect and she knows very well and i think the rest of the people in that place also know that Harry is far more qualified to be Prefect than Ron but it's only Hermione who was pretty much affected by it... and come to think of it... she's usually the one telling her two best friends to ignore Draco but i think this incident pretty much got to her. I don't mean that she belittles Ron it's just that they all know pretty well that Harry is not someone you should undermine.... I mean she was the one who started the whole DA idea....and yes.... book five definitely highlighted the connection between Harry and Hermione and no R/Hr shipper can contest to that.... unless they would readily admit that Ron is too dumb that he can't work his mind as fast as theirs which i think isn't true by the way.... it's just that Harry and Hermione has a different understanding about things and it has nothing to do with Ron being dumb.

~Karen

I like Draco...alot now... It seem that Draco..know something going on between H/Hr, he knows that Hermione is smart..(even though Draco keep insulting her..about being Mudblood) but he know that she got brain no-doult-about-it. Draco see Harry as "leader of group" and Harry should be smart as Hermione, but then..Draco found out, that Harry didn't received..(I don't know how Draco knows..about Harry's didn't get perfect patch) being Perfect..and Ron did. Draco, as upper hand to insulted Harry, and it seem Draco think, that Hermione likes Harry more then friend. I don't know..maybe Draco..is git..but he is not blind.

sorrry, I don't know if that make any sense..

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