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sunshinebelle
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Yup yup.... H/Hr is just ther and only the gifted ones can spot them.... well, not really if you just read the book and try to understand the whole context you would definitely end up with an H/HR conclusion....


I like to think we're gifted!
More like INTELLIGENT!
Cause its gonna happen people! Mark my words (lol.. dreaded famous last words)

~*Amanda
karenkate_kitty
Yup we're smart , intelligent gifted and good seers because we can predict the what would happen in HP.... hehehe kidding..... Let's just hope we're right
pnkrkprincess91
Dumbledore- deffinate H/Hr shipper. He likes Ron, but not as much as he likes Harry (as childish as that sounds), and I truly believe he wants Harry to be happy in life, which only Hermione coud truly provide for him, IMHO. Just think about this- Dumbledore always sends Ron away when he talks to Harry. Surely he must realize that Harry trust Ron with his life- so why won't he allow Ron to be privy to their conversations?

Snape- I'm going with H/Hr just so he can torture them. Anything to make a Gryffindor squirm, the evil sonuvabitch. tongue.gif J/K- I'm sure Sevie has a soft spot- deep, deep, deep, DEEP down... biggrin.gif

AML
~*kt*!

Mod Note: Edited to remove certain comments. ~WonkyKris
dreamin_athena
Hmmm, well for me, I always thought that Harry and Hermione were meant for each other. they seem to share such a great chemistry in the books.
Harry and Hermione= True love
Ok, I know that there probably isn't proof of this, but I have a feeling that Dumblodere ships h/hr. Does anyone else? blush.gif
Facade
You know I do have that feeling as well. I mean that damn twinkle in his eye...
sunshinebelle
We have no proof, but yes.. I do have a feeling.
We just need to see movies to see if he glances at Harry and Hermione when they're not looking and smiles at the two of them.. that would be AWESOME
And if he did ship them, then thats good for us, because he is extremely intelligent! Yay! A big powerful smartie on our side!!!

lol

~*Amanda

PS: Do you guys like my signature pic? blush.gif
FrostbitePanda
I do too. There is no proof as of yet (although I'm sure some of our champion analyzers could write a whole essay on it ^.^) but I definatly get that air of Pumpkin goodness about him.

I wouldn't be surprised either, he seems to know everything and can see things alot can't. Either though, it seems, Colin, Rita, Cho, and Krum can see it too. ^.^

Not to mention Mcgonagall and hints of Ron coming 'round.

Heh...

~an extremly overwhelmed panda

PS: And yes, sunsinebelle! Very *squeeable*! biggrin.gif
sunshinebelle
Yes I agree! Even if Dumbledore doesnt think it SO many other teachers/students/people also!!!! As I always say, all those people cant think that H/Hr are going out for no good reason!!!! There has to be a reason WHY that they think that..

OOH! Another thought! Some 'good ship' people would say to this, that people just think they're going out because they are good friends, and guys arent usually friends with girls!! Well no one barely ever says it about Ron and Hermione!!! And they are guy/girl friends!!! So that cant be why!!

Hmm dont mind me.. im pondering things..

~*Amanda

PS: THANKS Frostbite Panda! I made it! hehe these things are SO much fun to make. I made some avatars but they were too big sad.gif
FrostbitePanda
Sunshinebelle, yes, noe one does say that about Ron and Hermione. I would be interested in seeing another girl in a relationship with Ron and see if she says anything about him and Hermione's relationship.

And yes, things like that are fun to make! ^.^

My Avatar is a movie poster though.

~a still overwhelmed panda
sunshinebelle
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Sunshinebelle, yes, noe one does say that about Ron and Hermione. I would be interested in seeing another girl in a relationship with Ron and see if she says anything about him and Hermione's relationship.


Well Cho liked Harry and she said that, and Krum liked Hermione and said that.
Luna likes Ron and hasnt mentioned anything about that.. and shes pretty outspoken in a dreamy loony way! lol she says what she thinks.
So I dont think she notices them at all! Yay!!

~*Amanda
dreamin_athena
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Sunshinebelle, yes, noe one does say that about Ron and Hermione. I would be interested in seeing another girl in a relationship with Ron and see if she says anything about him and Hermione's relationship.


Yeah, I agree, I posted this somewhere else I think, but it is kind of weird that both Hermione and Harry have had previous relationships but Ron hasn't. We'll hopefully he'll finally get together with Luna and we won't have to worry about The Good Ship anymore. biggrin.gif
Serendipity
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I have a feeling that Dumblodere ships h/hr. Does anyone else?

It's actually kind of hard to say. Dumbledore has always been very mysterious, but I remember a particular poignant scene that stood out in my mind. It was in GoF when Hagrid was receiving hate-mail and taunts from other witches and wizards for being a half-giant.

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Breaking into a run, she led them all the way back to the road, through the gates flanked by winged boars, and up through the grounds to Hagrid's cabin.
The curtains were still drawn, and they could hear Fang barking as they approached.
"Hagrid!" Hermione shouted, pounding on his front door. "Hagrid, that's enough! We know you're in there! Nobody cares if your mum was a giantess, Hagrid! You can't let that foul Skeeter woman do this to you! Hagrid, get out here, you're just being---"
The door opened. Hermione said, "About t---!" and then stopped, very suddenly, because she had found herself face-to-face not with Hagrid, but with Albus Dumbledore.
"Good afternoon," he said pleasantly, smiling down at them.
"we--er--we wanted to see Hagrid,' said Hermione in a rather small voice.
"Yes, I surmised as much," said Dumbledore, his eyes twinkling,
"why don't you come in?"
"Oh..um...okay,' said Hermione
<then later>
There was a slight pause, and then Dumbledore said, "Did you by any chance hear what Miss Granger was shouting, Hagrid?"
Hermione went pink, but Dumbledore smiled at her...(452-453 GoF;S;P)


I think Dumbledore recognizes Hermione for her bravery and intelligence as well as her moral values, which btw, are very similar to Harry's; although Harry is still reluctant to display them until a crisis occurs, but nevertheless, Harry is very upright too. It's very interesting how Harry and Hermione both at first defended Hagrid from Rita Skeeter (while Ron sits there doing nothing), but they were also the ones to comfort Hagrid. After Harry, Hermione, and Dumbledore took turns in comforting Hagrid, Ron's first concern was about food.

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Dumbledore left the cabin, pausing only to scratch Fang's ears. When the door had shut behind him, Hagrid began to sob into his dustbin-lid sized hands. Hermione kept patting his arm, and at last, Hagrid looked up, his eyes very red indeed, and said, "Great man, Dumbledore...great man..."
"Yeah, he is," said Ron. "Can I have one of these cakes, Hagrid?"(454-455 GoF;S;P)


Does anyone else find Ron a bit insensitive and inconsiderate in that moment? Not to bash Ron or anything, but he just doesn't seem to connect with Harry and Hermione or even Hagrid! Here the man was sobbing uncontrollably and all Ron did was ask for cake. Hmm... and it was not intended as a diversion because Hagrid went right back to talking about Dumbledore.
So, in some ways, I do believe Dumbledore notices Harry and Hermione's mental connections in the sense, but of course Dumbledore is not going to say blatantly to Harry, "Oh. You're in love with Hermione. Go and confess to her right now." or something like that, but I think Dumbledore recognizes the bond in the least. oh boy, I'm being repetitive arn't I.
One last thing, do you think the Fat Lady sees the connection between H/Hr? The Dobby scene in GoF is very suspicious... innocent.gif
liddlevietgurl
Great post Cdelight. Ron was being incredibly insensitive in that situation. That's one of the reasons why I think R/Hr won't work. Ron's insensitivity is one of the things that blocks him from a real relationship. IMO, I don't think he'll be able to have a real, serious relationship until he starts having a few personality changes. Not bashing him though!! Just stating what I think tongue.gif
Harry and Hermione= True love
Glad to see I'm not alone. biggrin.gif laugh.gif I just got an image if him watching Harry and Hermione and thinking "Hm. What's going on there?" I just thought it was kinda funny. Anyway, what scene about the Fat Lady could be suspicious of h/hr? Maybe even Sir Cadogen ships them! I could soo picture him saying "Ahh. Young sir! Tell thy lady Granger!" laugh.gif
dreamin_athena
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Does anyone else find Ron a bit insensitive and inconsiderate in that moment? Not to bash Ron or anything, but he just doesn't seem to connect with Harry and Hermione or even Hagrid! Here the man was sobbing uncontrollably and all Ron did was ask for cake. Hmm... and it was not intended as a diversion because Hagrid went right back to talking about Dumbledore.

Yes! I definitely think he was! I love how you used the quotes and stuff, I never even noticed that before, really, but you did a great job of showing your side! Great job! I salute you! thumbup.gif ( I know this isn't saluting, but they don't have one of those on here blush.gif )
danlover
im sure everyone at hogwarts ships harry and hermione! except for maybe ron and the slytherins. but now, they have to realize that they're perfect for one another!
the_dog_star
Cheers to you, Cdelight! smile.gif And I agree, Ron WAS insensitive and inconsiderate at that moment. That's WHY Hermione calls him 'the most insensitive wart' she 'ever had the misfortune to meet'. thumbup.gif


Edit: I forgot what the topic was, but now that I remembered: Yeah, I think Dumbledore secretly ships H/Hr. I mean, we have no proof of this whatsoever, but it sounds right, donnit? smile.gif


~the dog star
sunshinebelle
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And I agree, Ron WAS insensitive and inconsiderate at that moment. That's WHY Hermione calls him 'the most insensitive wart' she 'ever had the misfortune to meet'.


Hmm another good point. Who would want to date the most insensitive wart? I certainly wouldnt!!

Ladies, lets take a vote?! Who would date 'the most insensitive wart you've ever had the misfortune to meet'?

Hmmm lol!

~*Amanda
Harry-Hermione_Always
well i'm not sure about Dumbledore, but he does see a lot of things other people can't. so let's hope he's a H-Hr shipper too, wink.gif but i'm sure Mcgonagall's seen something between them. all those quotes of hers! ah! i love her! smile.gif

hey, someone else feels that Luna Lovegood was introduced in 5th book just to confuse us or something. i mean, Harry's gotten over cho now, so there was only one girl left, who we could link with Harry and that's of course Hermione. you know, i don't understand how some poeple can even think about r-Hr or H/g (they make me feel really really sick!), i can't see anything, any chemistry between them. the other day i read these fans saying who'll end up with whom and they were like, Hermione and ron will end up together, because they have a bond and they always had the bond, since the first book! now i can't see any bond between ron and Hermione. if there's a bond, that's between Harry and Hermione and it's getting stronger and stronger with each book so far. and then some people were like, 'now that Harry's gotten over cho, ginny's way is clear.' WHAT WAY?! i mean, honestly, ginny's no macth for Harry and ron's no macth for Hermione, for God's sake! so anyway, back to luna.

she seems to be the new threat to the H-Hr ship. but sometimes, i feel that she's... well... too... dreamy (?!) for our hero. oops, it's got quite long. oh, that was all off topic, was that? sorry for babbling. stupid.gif
sunshinebelle
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you know, i don't understand how some poeple can even think about r-Hr or H/g (they make me feel really really sick!), i can't see anything, any chemistry between them. the other day i read these fans saying who'll end up with whom and they were like, Hermione and ron will end up together, because they have a bond and they always had the bond, since the first book! now i can't see any bond between ron and Hermione. if there's a bond, that's between Harry and Hermione and it's getting stronger and stronger with each book so far. and then some people were like, 'now that Harry's gotten over cho, ginny's way is clear.' WHAT WAY?! i mean, honestly, ginny's no macth for Harry and ron's no macth for Hermione, for God's sake! so anyway, back to luna.


LOL its ok to babble, I do it constantly! haha! And these are my thoughts

G/H-- they've had barely any interaction. Thats not how you base a healthy relationship.

R/Hr-- if they call fighting/arguing a 'bond' then sure.. I call it bloody madness!

~*Amanda
liddlevietgurl
Yes, when Hermione and Ron decide to have a "bonding time" all that's going to happen is that they argue about where to go (Hermione: the magnificent museum with the big library!! Ron: no, the Quidditch game!! Hermione: Grrr!! *Throttles Ron). Harry and Hermione do have the much stronger bond and it clearly shows.

At least they got the "Harry got over the Cho" part right. What they didn't get is that Ginny is over Harry and Harry has not shown any romantic interest in her at all. She's just the "best friend's little sister" and now maybe, she could be a good friend. But it's not going to get any farther than that.

And to be on topic, I do think that Dumbledore ships H/Hr. thumbup.gif
cmdahms
Actually, what is interesting is the fact that Hermione seems to parrell Dumbledore's thinking a lot. The treatment of House elves for example, both feel it is the fault of those who the house elves serve and in OotP Dumbledore tells Harry, that Hermione's concern about Kreacher was correct, that Kreacher was the way he was because of wizards and their high&mighty ways.
They both also are Harry's voice of reason, we know that Harry hears Hermione's voice in his head whilst doing something wrong or thinking it, and we know that Dumbledore is the one who reasons out problems for Harry.
Both are very concerned for his welfare and constantly remind him of things he has either promised, or correct him if his falters.
It's like Dumbledore and Hermione have the same train of thought, a lot of what Dumbledore values, Hermione also values.
Both do not consider Snape a threat! Hermione doesn't because Dumbledore doesn't, and countless times, Hermione has been the one to remind Harry and Ron of this.
I feel that Dumbledore would see Hermione as a good influence on Harry, because she is similar in her worries and concerns when it comes to Harry and other things around her.
Serendipity
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What they didn't get is that Ginny is over Harry and Harry has not shown any romantic interest in her at all. She's just the "best friend's little sister" and now maybe, she could be a good friend. But it's not going to get any farther than that.


True, very true. Now that I skim through GoF again, I found loads of interestine H/Hr moments, or at least moments where they share the "connection". Here's another example. This is right after fake Moody's unforgivable curses lesson.
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They spent the rest of the lesson taking notes on each of the Unforgivable Curses. No one spoke until the bell rang---but when Moody had dismissed them and they had left the classroom, a torrent of talk burst forth. Most people were discussing the curses in awed voices---"Did you see it twitch" "---and when he killed it---just like that!"
They were talking about the lesson, Harry thought, as though it had been some sort of spectacular show, but he hadn't found it very entertaining--and nor, it seemed, had Hermione.
<then later...after they comforted Neville>
"What was that about?" said Ron, watching Neville and Moody turn the corner.
"i don't know,' said Hermione, looking pensive.
"Some lesson, though, eh?' said Ron to Harry as they set off for the Great Hall. "Fred and George were right, weren't they? He really knows his stuff, Moody, doesn't he? When he did Avada Kedavra, the way that spider just died, just snuffed it right---"
but Ron fell suddenly silent at the look on Harry's face...(218-219 GoF;S;P)


Pensive: 1) deeply or dreamily thoughtful
2) sadly thoughful
(Longman Dictionary of Comtemporary English)

Another situation where Ron displayed his cluelessness as well as his insensitivity. Earlier, it was established that Harry was very shocked and miserable when he found out how his parents died or "snuffed it" like Ron said. Neville too, was tormented because his parents suffered a similiar fate, if not worse. Hermione was able to see through both boy's thoughts and feelings while Ron acted like everyone else, and was oblivious to Harry's emotions. Hermione was looking pensive (deeply in thought) while Ron acted totally perky and enthusiastic about the lesson. Very big difference between Hermione's and Ron's reactions.
sunshinebelle
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Another situation where Ron displayed his cluelessness as well as his insensitivity. Earlier, it was established that Harry was very shocked and miserable when he found out how his parents died or "snuffed it" like Ron said. Neville too, was tormented because his parents suffered a similiar fate, if not worse. Hermione was able to see through both boy's thoughts and feelings while Ron acted like everyone else, and was oblivious to Harry's emotions. Hermione was looking pensive (deeply in thought) while Ron acted totally perky and enthusiastic about the lesson. Very big difference between Hermione's and Ron's reactions.


I've always thought that Ron was overly insensitive.
And he's quite immature.. in my opinion, he needs to grow up a whole lot more before getting into a serious relationship.

~*Amanda
HarrylovesHermione
Yeah! Dumbledore seems to be a H/Hr shipper. With that twinkle in his eye every time he speaks to either of them.
sunshinebelle
LOL yeah the twinkle in his eye is one of the best things about Dumbledore.. actually the actor who played him in the last 2 movies never had a twinkle in his eye.. he actually looked very stern and bored most of the time..
I dont really think he was a good choice for Dumbledore..
but anyways, I love Dumbledore, he has always been one of my favourite characters in the books!

~*Amanda
HarrylovesHermione
The directors of the third movie might shine a small amount of light in his eye to make a twinkle in his eye.
sunshinebelle
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The directors of the third movie might shine a small amount of light in his eye to make a twinkle in his eye. 


Where did you hear that?? Oh and I think that the guy who played Gandalf in LOTR would have been the perfect Dumbledore! Too bad he didnt get the part! His eyes naturally twinkle!

~*Amanda
Melissa627
QUOTE (LilaBelle @ Aug 16 2003, 07:08 AM)
yes, i think she deserves a whole pie for being our biggest book shipper, maybe hagrid too, he's given us a little proof, i refuse to bash sirius and his hinting towards r/hr but he DID, i hope he likes his tree lol j/k....i'm not sure if rita should get anything, i'm not sure about cho either, but they DID say something...crouch jr. mentioned the auror thing(pie?) what about draco and pansy and their comments????....so many book shippers so little space to type

Question: when did Sirius hint towards R/Hr?

Melissa
dreamin_athena
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Question: when did Sirius hint towards R/Hr?

Yeah, I've been wondering about that for a while too. Can anyone help us here?
Anazecria
dreamin_athena, the Sirius thing I *think* they are talking about is somewhere Ron says to Hermione, 'Sirius was right, you DO sound like my mother.' Personally I do not see this as evidence for R/Hr, but some do.

Mod Note: Edited to remove certain comments. ~WonkyKris
Kalie
Wait a minute! Sirius never hinted toward R/Hr at all! *hits head* Why didn't I see it before. The remarks from both Sirius and Ron were both made to draw comparrissons to Hermione and Molly. We do know that they act alike at times and have similar characters.

Also, this was was from OotP: "Harry was forcibly reminded of Mrs. Weasley appealing to her husband." Once again, I do not see this as R/Hr proof. This has mostly to do with Hermione's bossiness and attitude very much like Molly's. I haven't seen one part of that statement that drew comparrissons between the characters of Ron and Arthur. That observation was relating more to Hermione than R/Hr, or anything else for that matter. Am I making any sense?
Anazecria
Kalie, you are right, they were only Hermione > Molly comparisons, not R/Hr moments, its just that R/Hr's have twisted it that way.
Kalie
Yep, I must have read OotP over a dozen times already and I just now figured this out. Most shippers will try to twist the evidence thier way. It's natural instinct. And it's crucial if you want to prove a point. But, these are Hermione/Molly comparrissons and not R/Hr foreshadowing. It's as simple as that.
jackryan411
Yep, we are...so how about that stuff? (lol, my friends say that all the time)...anyway, I think we can say that this character sees R/Hr:

Parvati (And even this is questionable, she did say, "What about Hermione Granger?" to Ron's date...but after all, since Harry was asking her, she probably figured that Ron would be asking the other member of the trio--Hermione. So this is questionable, but it can't hurt to put it down.)

For H/Hr:

McGonagall (Evidence stated in the beginning)
Cho ("Of course if it was darling Hermione's idea")
Krum (The famous "I vant to know vot there is between you and Herm-own-ninny" and also, "She talks about you often...")
Dumbledore (None, just a feeling)
Hagrid (Again, no proper evidence, but just a feeling...does anyone else think Hagrid was trying to bring them back together in PoA, not just for their friendship, but for something else..or am I just a crazy idiot? Probably the latter...)
Mrs. Weasley (If she hadn't seen SOMETHING between the two, I doubt she would've believed Rita Skeeter so easily---after all, in the beginning, she says something about not trusting anything the woman says. So I doubt she would've believed Skeeter so easily, unless she had seen something between the two before)
Ron (His reactions to them possibly spending time out of his purview tell the tale, "How would you know?" he asked sharply and "Ron's face became redder and redder" in reference to them missing the Quidditch game. He certainly seems to think it's possible that they were off snogging. Again, he must have seen something.)
Fred and George (Nothing to support this, but I think both of them are smart enough to look at Hermione's reaction to Harry possibly being a prefect to figure it out.)

And lastly...

Hermione herself: Look at the post-H/C kiss scene, the prefect scene, the kiss of Harry, the clinging to Harry, asking him to make elf hats with him while her face shines with glee...Hermione is smart enough to look within herself and know this. I think she does...right after Harry kisses Cho, she knows who she likes (HARRY J. POTTER, HARRY J. POTTER, your lifelong love is right under your nose. Thank you.)
KaiserDragon
Don't worry jackryan411. In OotP Harry was doing a bit o' grabbing himself. He gonna realize it sooner or later (Better be sooner the daft git.) Our time is coming soon... twisted.gif
karenkate_kitty
yup i think Harry would realize his own feeling but i don't know if he'sll act on it... especially if Ron would start asking him to help him with Hermione.... Ron is bit daft sometimes...
jackryan411
Harry will realize it maybe around the end of Book 6 (hopefully so I don't have to wait five years to laugh at R/Hr shippers), but I think he'll keep quiet, unless Hermione admits it herself...
Caramella
I don`t know if anyone has said this already, but I`m going to add to jackryan`s list of people who might recognize H/Hr.

Malfoy The part when they are on the train in the beginning and Malfoy says something hurtful to Harry, and Hermione immediatley comes to his defense. " I seemed to have touched a nerve" said Malfoy with a smirk.


Teeehehehehehe cool.gif
jackryan411
Oh yes...and Malfoy also says in Book 2:

"He wouldn't go around with that filthy Granger mudblood."

The way he said, 'go around' made me think that he thinks that they're dating. Very good spotting!
karenkate_kitty
yup.... malfoy had been pointing to that ever since.... se even that git knows H/Hr is the real thing.. well, malfoy is git in canon so don't hate me
jackryan411
He is a GIT, no matter how many people twist him to be a goodie...yup, oh yeah, I forgot someone else:

Colin Creevey: He's quoted in Rita Skeeter's article as saying that Harry's rarely seen out of the company of his stunningly pretty girlfriend Hermione. So Colin thinks so as well.
jackryan411
P.S. You can't really count Rita 'cause she was just going off other's information, so we don't know if she actually saw something or just wanted something juicy.
Serendipity
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Yep, we are...so how about that stuff? (lol, my friends say that all the time)...anyway, I think we can say that this character sees R/Hr:

Parvati (And even this is questionable, she did say, "What about Hermione Granger?" to Ron's date...but after all, since Harry was asking her, she probably figured that Ron would be asking the other member of the trio--Hermione. So this is questionable, but it can't hurt to put it down.)


*lol* I wouldn't bet my money on Parvati; I mean the poor girl looks up to Trelawny. whistling.gif We know Trelawny is a bit cuckoo. She's 99% wrong and only made three right predictions in her entire life (sad if you ask me) So I'd dismiss Parvati as a simple, clueless, normal teenager who doesn't have the "inner eye" to see true love blooming for Harry and Hermione. In fact, all Parvati cared about was getting a date; it didn't really bother her who asks her, as long as *someone* does; Harry just happens to be an added bonus (well he was a bit desperate)

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Dumbledore (None, just a feeling


Dumbledore hasn't directly state anything regarding in Harry/Herm's relationship, but I definitely see instances where DD is majorly impressed with Hermione's intelligence as well as her moral uprightness (<--word?) DD is very impressed with Hermione for solving potions riddle in her first year; in the second year, it can be logically assumed that DD is impressed that Hermione figured out the Basilisk. In PoA, DD clearly displayed his trust in Hermione when he sent her on a very dangerous and risky adventure with Harry, knowing that Hermione will be able to handle Harry's recklessness and impulsive behaviors. In GoF, DD is most impressed with Hermione's defending Hagrid on being a half giant. In fact, Dumbledore had been comforting Hagrid before Hermione practically knocked the door down and barged in to comfort Hagrid. Actually both Harry and Hermione comforted Hagrid; Ron was...well just sitting there, I think. Ron doesn't talk until he asks Hagrid for a slice of cake...*shrugs* Anyhow, DD definitely trusts and respects Hermione. He can tell that Hermione cares for Harry very deeply. With that in mind, it's only a matter of time before DD becomes a firm H/Hrer.

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Mrs. Weasley (If she hadn't seen SOMETHING between the two, I doubt she would've believed Rita Skeeter so easily---after all, in the beginning, she says something about not trusting anything the woman says. So I doubt she would've believed Skeeter so easily, unless she had seen something between the two before)


*lol* Mrs. Weasley is one of the most solid evidence we have, apart from Krum's and Cho's jealousies. I find JKR's writing technique very interesting regarding Mrs. Weasley's thoughts on H/Hr relationship. Mrs. Weasley obviously knows them both well. She apparently doesn't have a problem with an H/HR relationship until Hermione was made out to be a "scarlet woman" But wouldn't that make Mrs. Weasley a bit hypocritical? Only a few pages fore she met Hermione on Hogwarts grounds (before 3rd task) Molly has been reprimanding Amos Diggory for believing that "rubbish" Rita was writing about Harry being the only champion for Hogwarts. A few minutes later, however, she turns icy cold when she meets Hermione. Apparently it didn't take much to convince her that H/Hr are an item.

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Fred and George


I've always had this funny feeling that Fred and George are H/Hers. Yeah, I agree with you jack, the prefect scene is crucial in showing Hermione's feelings toward both boys; if not romantically, at least academically.
jackryan411
Yeah, Mrs. Weasley's one of our strongest people who has seen H/Hr...Fred and George have also given me a funny feeling about them and after all, they did witness the prefect scene and as outsiders to the trio's relationship, they can make the logical assumption. I also think Parvati is questionable, but I do think that it was polite to the Good Ship to put someone down, even if there's not even evidence to say that she sees this.
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