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Peregrine Falcon
1st - I'm glad I didn't scare any of you. thumbup.gif

2nd - I didn't think that a person could be afraid of admitting she/he likes a certain book...that's sad!

3rd - Banned from a forum for supporting H/Hr?(that's way too far! I have been in an H/G forum, evidently supporting D/G but they didn't complain...) Maybe the "bad shippers" of your ship caused a chain of prejudices against you. Or maybe you assumed the "know it all attitude" ? Because you met stupid non-tolerant crazy Herons? dunno...

4th - Shob: are you calling me a loser? biggrin.gif

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Shob:We are hated simply because some R/Hr shippers are bunch of losers who are afraid of us and afraid that we may be right. It is as simple as that.


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Alexius: because societal beliefs are so cracked-up and dependent on mass stupidity, and our ship is so much in the minority, our ship therefore must be better than the common opinion (you know what)
ohmy.gif

I'm not going to answer this because I'm in your territory; but I'll post this:

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sunny star:the arrogance/superiority attitude, i.e. "we are smarter/better/we look deeper/herons only look on the surface/we're not sheep like them, we think with our heads, unlike herons who blindly accept everything that JKR says...

AdamantEve: I think this is the first time ever I agreed with sunnystar.
I don't think I've ever been nice to Herons and Chocos who come here, but I do personally hate it when my fellow-Harmonians get this way. Makes my eyes roll, frankly. I don't want to seem like a traitor to the cause here, but it is what it is.


5th - Please...bashing is not a good thing! Ever! JK doesn't deserve it.

6th - WHO ARE EMERSON AND MELISSA? dry.gif


I SUPPORT HOUSE UNITY! Differences are FUN!!
Seamus22
First off when JKR doesn't even respect us and almost straight up insults us it doesn't really set an example for those who look up to her. I'm sure at one point we all had this huge respect for her and the world she created and some of us still do. But looking back over JKR's comments in the IoD she fully opened the door for others to slam us. Not to say we were well liked before, but people felt it was alright to finally let loose their animosity towards us.

As for the reason non-harmonians don't like us it could be multiple reasons. Different for everyone. Could be our we-are-above-you statements since I've made a fair few. I look back on them now and think of what an a*s I've been. Maybe it really is JKR's fault for not helping us out, but to stand us up only to knock us down again. Or it could be they were getting defensive to something that threatened their ship...I don't know. We did get alittle worked up over the IoD, but how could you not feel insulted? Some people took it over the top, but I won't apologize for getting upset and wanting to punch Emerson in the face. whistling.gif Though I promise you now that if I ever came across him I'd walk away mumbling to myself instead of hitting him. smile.gif I'm only throwing out reasons, some that have already been made, and claiming none to be right or wrong.

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Heres what I don't understand though the other shipping groups might not like us either but they don't waste their time coming onto our boards to insult us like Herons and Chocos do. Dramoniones Krumanionas, what ever other type of Hermione related shipping names exist, slashers, and trioers have NEVER had the nerve to come here and insult to us. So really it shouldn't be why we are hated but we are we bashed.


Well I think Emerson, Melissa, and JKR kind of helped with that. There's the three biggest OBHWF shippers and one of them is the author of the series. We get publicly bashed by two of them and JKR does not one thing to remedy the situation. Oh she told them delusional isn't a word she'd use...she likes militant more, but we got no help. dry.gif It was probably like 'hey those two can bash harmonians in front of JKR what's there to stop me.' Though that's my opinion and I'm not a non-harmonian who hates harmonians so that comment only holds so much weight. biggrin.gif

OT: Boy that post is long didn't think I had that much to say at first. blush.gif
Shob
QUOTE(Peregrine Falcon @ Sep 19 2007, 03:09 AM) *

4th - Shob: are you calling me a loser? biggrin.gif

Why, of course I am! The only reason why you come here is because you are intolerant and selfish.
There are many places where you can discuss shipping but your problem is that you simply cannot accept the fact that there are people who don`t like your ships. So you have to come here and try to "convert H/Hr shippers", try to make us "see the truth".

I`ve certainly far more respect for Emmerson than I have for you and your shipmates who come to Portkey.

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sunny star:the arrogance/superiority attitude, i.e. "we are smarter/better/we look deeper/herons only look on the surface/we're not sheep like them, we think with our heads, unlike herons who blindly accept everything that JKR says...

AdamantEve: I think this is the first time ever I agreed with sunnystar.
I don't think I've ever been nice to Herons and Chocos who come here, but I do personally hate it when my fellow-Harmonians get this way. Makes my eyes roll, frankly. I don't want to seem like a traitor to the cause here, but it is what it is.


To be honest, I disagree with AdamantEve almost as often as I disagree with R/Hr shippers. So this is nothing new really.
Ravenclaw(d69)
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3rd - Banned from a forum for supporting H/Hr?(that's way too far! I have been in an H/G forum, evidently supporting D/G but they didn't complain...) Maybe the "bad shippers" of your ship caused a chain of prejudices against you. Or maybe you assumed the "know it all attitude" ? Because you met stupid non-tolerant crazy Herons? dunno...


No unless you are calling every single shipper on this forum a "bad shipper".

And if people should have prejudices based on "bad shippers", then its a wonder that portkey always all these differnt shippers to join and discuss. Because trust me, Harmonians go through a lot of crap.
AdamantEve
QUOTE(Shob @ Sep 19 2007, 05:19 AM) *

To be honest, I disagree with AdamantEve almost as often as I disagree with R/Hr shippers.


Thank God.
thewall28304
What annoys the hell out of me is when JKR made her witty,rhetorical question about did anyone really think H/Hr were suited for eachother? My question is "woman you wrote them in situations,surrounding them with all this symbolism and you wonder why some would come to the conclusion that they are suited for eachother?" If she already knew from the get go that her ending was OBHWF,there was no need to eliminate Ron from the group and H/Hr solve the cases without him. Otherwise it appears that they work better without him and it still holds true even in DH. I know it seems that she only appears to side with the OBHWF shippers,because they were able to ask her questions first.

At the time her defense was she couldn't give too much information away about the end of her story,yet Herons would say they saw R/Hr as the only way the story was going to end. She just assumed that any reader who starts reading the series,would only consider the OBHWF posibility and never see H/Hr as becoming a romantic couple. She could have completely abandoned the alchemy aspects of the story and kept it basic. However once you read the first book and discover the large amounts of alchemy,it's proven that it will be brought up as a recurring theme,not only in the plot but surrounding the characters as well. This could be delusional thinking here,but I don't see where the Herons gained much of an advantage over us like they think they have. DH was supposed to be her Christmas in July present to them,yet she didn't do the thing properly and show Hermione telling Ron that she loved him,nor Ginny telling Harry that she loved him. So the way I see it she gave them half a present,tf this was supposed to tie up once and for all who was in love with whom. No wonder the discussion is still going,because the ship debate is not an open and shut case.
AdamantEve
I don't think anyone has to justify why they disagree/dislike/are disgusted by an author. Honestly, the culture of Love Thy Author didn't seem so prevalent until JKR rolled around. There's absolutely no need requirement to love her or hate her, and I wish fans would stop putting such a price on it.

In other news, I think this thread's use is DONE.
oh_dang87
QUOTE(Peregrine Falcon @ Sep 18 2007, 11:09 PM) *

1st - I'm glad I didn't scare any of you. thumbup.gif

2nd - I didn't think that a person could be afraid of admitting she/he likes a certain book...that's sad!


Are you calling me sad? Hey, I was nice to you tongue.gif , lol. Its alright though, but its not like I deny reading it. I'm a cheerleader so people are generally surprised to see me reading period rolleyes.gif ...and the people I hang with think that HP is rubbish....the fifth movie didn't help my case much either. dry.gif


QUOTE(Peregrine Falcon @ Sep 18 2007, 11:09 PM) *

5th - Please...bashing is not a good thing! Ever! JK doesn't deserve it.

6th - WHO ARE EMERSON AND MELISSA? dry.gif


I SUPPORT HOUSE UNITY! Differences are FUN!!


I'm all for house...unity (aka ship unity thumbup.gif ) But I think Adamanteve says it best when she said:

QUOTE(AdamantEve @ Sep 19 2007, 10:52 AM) *

I don't think anyone has to justify why they disagree/dislike/are disgusted by an author. Honestly, the culture of Love Thy Author didn't seem so prevalent until JKR rolled around. There's absolutely no need requirement to love her or hate her, and I wish fans would stop putting such a price on it.


So if I don't like how she wrote it and i think it was crap...I have every right to say so. And I think I have more right than others (aka non-HP fans who just call it "sh*t" b/c its not "the cool thing to read") to say it was crap, b/c I was a fan. And I actually read the book. And I just genuinly did not write the book...it didn't match up well with the others...well except for book6. But if I don't like it or how she wrote then its my perogative to call it crap! I don't like the new HP director, I think he's crap too. Whatcha got to say about that?...I thought so biggrin.gif
Ravenclaw(d69)
QUOTE(oh_dang87 @ Sep 19 2007, 09:29 AM) *

Are you calling me sad? Hey, I was nice to you tongue.gif , lol. Its alright though, but its not like I deny reading it. I'm a cheerleader so people are generally surprised to see me reading period rolleyes.gif ...and the people I hang with think that HP is rubbish....the fifth movie didn't help my case much either. dry.gif



I dont think its fair to call anyone sad either. I dont admit to liking it but if a person directly asks me I wont deny it. I do get strange looks from people when I do so thats the only reason why, in that it gets super irritating. And a lot of my friends laugh at me in a "Oh I forgot, you like HP you're such a silly girl" kind of way which is even more.

oh_dang87 Thats so cool that you are a cheerleader! I used to be on the team too and it used to be all that I ever knew until I had a fallout with a one girl on the team and it ended up spreading to everyone...and yeah...it got unpleasant. But anyway now Volleyball is more my thing so yeah....

Anyway that was my little nostalgic moment, sorry I'll keep it on topic lol.
Miss Mady
QUOTE(AdamantEve @ Sep 19 2007, 09:52 AM) *

In other news, I think this thread's use is DONE.

I agree. This thread has gotten out of use and out of control; wasn't this thread supposed to just answer why Harmonians seem to be so hated in fandom? Too many insults ruined that.

Consider this thread closed.
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