okay this could either be a very very very subtle !Hermione loves Harry! moment or it could be my deluded shipper mind running away with me...again. Okay her it is



I dont know that section gives me the feeling that harry upset Hermione. This is recently after Ron's NDE. Hermione was happy all day (Harry felt that this was because Ron and Lavender were looking shaky) and then when Harry asks her to finish his essay and then leaves her she seems upset. i think she's upset because harry is taking her for granted. Now its not entirely shippy but i just wanted to hear what other people's thoughts were.

Well, this is certainly subtle - I've never seen it as a particularly big H/Hr moment - although you could say it's good for us because it's another example of Harry not being afraid to touch Hermione as a means of saying thanks. OTOH, a "hasty pat on the back" doesn't exactly scream "I love you"; but Jo doesn't want it to (yet), and if Harry was standing behind Hermione, he wouldn't have seen whether there was any reaction on her face (eg a small smile).

But I also didn't interpret Hermione as being upset in this scene; on the contrary, she seems happy that everything's sort of back to normal with her boys. Her "weary way" would probably have been a reaction to his feeble sentences (Am I going to have to correct your work for ever?) but I don't think it was a sign of impatience or being upset with him. But then again it could have been a sign of resignation that she got only a pat on the back (is that all I'm ever going to get from you Harry?)

So, like most things, it could be interpreted in several ways.

I would like to compare that pat on the back to something in OotP: Harry patted Cho on on the back. Does that mean he likes Hermione already?

Hmm I was thinking something on another track. Harry is clueless in the matters of romance and a huge one is physical contact. When Harry wanted to be comforting to Cho he chose to pat her on the back (since he is a bit imcompetent in that department...oops), he wants to show some sort of physical asppreciation , but doesnt know how. Also he there was a lot on his mind about the meeting with Dumbledore. I think the fact that Harry even thinks about showing any physical appreciation is a huge factor in this scene. Its a stepping stone because he had never really done so before when Hermione volunteerd to do something for him.

I don't have my book with me right now (frankly, I'm too lazy to get up go downstairs and take it off the shelf ), but one of my favorite subtle bits is after H/G broke up.

I lied. I got the book.

"I'm not coming back even if it does reopen," said Harry.
Ron gaped at him, but Hermione said sadly, "I knew you were going to say that...."

Even after everything that happened that year, Hermione still knows Harry better then anyone.

Off topic, but does anyone think it's cute that the book ends with the word Hermione. Probably just me reading too much into it, but I love Hermione to pieces. She's so like me.

Yeah, I noticed that, too, when I read the book. It made me smile! It's so lovely that she still understands him, even after everything that happened.

Hy everyone. I don't know, if this was already mentioned in the thread, but the following moment was quite nice:



Isn't it almost the same reaction like in OoP one year ago, when Hermione thought that Harry was promoted to prefect?

It echoes a scene earlier in HBP when, after winning the first Quidditch match, Harry already has thing for Ginny and he hugs her but lets go right away, afraid to hold her too long.

It could also be that he feels the physical chasm that has grown between them during the 6th year. Hermione is the first person to hug him since his parents' deaths, and they have always been physical. Now there is a change in their relationship, a distancing that doesn't feel right. I would wager a comparison between Harry's complete ease with Ginny up until HBP, until he starts having feelings for her. He pulls away from that post-match hug because he's scared of what he's feeling.

Now, don't stone me--

Think about Ron and Hermione...they have always been uncomfortable touching. Let's just assume there is some uncertainty in what each feels for the other, some UST or whatever. So, they don't get too close physically. Then, at Dumbledore's funeral, suddenly they are comfortable embracing and comforting each other. JKR has depicted the discomfort of proximity to crushes throughout the novels, what it there is a shift here to Ron and Hermione finally knowing that they are just friends and Harry is beginning to feel awkward around Hermione. She has flustered him and caught him off-guard with her hugs and kisses before, but he has never before felt truly awkward.

Of course, all this may run counter to an H/Hr theory when Hermione runs across the hospital ward to hug Harry at the end of HBP and doesn't let go. Maybe this is something new that we haven't seen....

Agnes

^ I like your theory Black_Agnes except... when do Ron and hermione not want to touch each other. i can't think of a moment except maybe in PoA when Ron and Hermione finally make up and she hugs him and he awkwardly pats her on the head. Other than that if they ever hug or when she kissed him on the cheek, there was no real hesitancy. it's the movies that show Ron and hermione being too embarrassed to touch.

sorry for the double post but i found another sotr-of moment. i mostly just think its cute but anways.

HBP CH. The White Tomb

I like this moment, too, because Ginny hast already left and now, the scene sets a focus on H/Hr. Hermione behaves like she did in the books before, she gives Harry some information and tries to comfort him. Hermione-ish doesn't sound negative too me.

I found another one. its in OotP in the chapter Percy and Padfoot, when Ron gets Percy's letter. Pg 266 UK

That's from OotP, p. 725. The bolding is mine, and I just think it's adorable how Harry sees Hermione's writing.

This one is from OotP, p. 700


Ok, maybe not that shippy, but I love how Harry takes the time to really look at Hermione.

Quick question: I remember seeing it on a thread here but I can't find it in my books. Which book is it that Harry and Hermione are fighting and they keep taking a step towards each other??? I want to find that scene but I forget which book its in. HELP!

It's in OOTP when they're arguing about whether or not Harry's visions of Sirius' torture are real. Talk about UST...

ohh thank you, I thought that was the scene but I wanted to make sure. UST...oh yeah.

And for good measure, another scene, because right now, HBP is my Harmony friend:


Again I love how Harry sort of always remembers Hermione, of course she's spouted off at him about Apparating at Hogwarts, but he still remembers her!!!!!

I know that this has been mentioned before, but HeartbrokenHBPprincess, you made me think of the odd irony that Harry is disarmed when Hermione memorizes what he says, but he alway going around spouting off things she's said or written, like in someone's previous post. It's not really a shippy anything, but it kinda cracked me up. I'm a nerd, I know.

heres something that kind of stood out to me in Ootp PG 796 US edition



was it really necessary for Harry to throw Ron so rudely off him? so much for being the person Harry would most sorely miss.

You aren't a nerd, you're absolutely right! I don't memorize what my friends say, no matter how many times they say it, so I think it's significant that Hermione would memorize what Harry said, and that Harry would memorize what Hermione said. It is ironic how Harry is taken aback by Hermione's actions, I wonder if he started thinking "Gee, why would she do that?" I can just see him asking her and her getting all pink...

I know this has been mentioned too, but to go along with Harry knows what Hermione says:

I am sure this has been discussed many times, not necessarily on this thread too, and i guess noone mention this in this thread, i've been following since start. anyway, this infamous Troll scene got me thinking. I realized something new yesterday (talk about rereading books).

Harry and Ron, first lock the troll in the bathroom with Hermione, and go back to rescue her. She outright lies to teachers, praises both boys and claims they are innocent. We all know that by heart. Now, at the end of that chapter 10 - Halloween, there is this last paragraph:


This may not be a solid H/Hr moment, but more like a distinct Hermione moment, since her joining to the team is explained in detail, in life or death danger-kind of detail in a whole chapter, singling her out of every other friends (namely Ron for example). Thus, pointing her significance in the books, actually in Harry's life. Becoming friends with Ron was a milestone in Harry's life too, but there wasn't much to talk about this befriending resulting from Ron's character. Ron was there with the Weasley family when he crossed from Muggle world into the Magic World, he was more like a tour guide in the beginning (up until, if you ask me, they rescued Hermione from the troll.) But befriending Hermione was a direct result of her sticking up for them, of her integrity. It could have been her helping Harry and Ron out in an exam or in homework too, but anything pales to "knocking-out a twelve-foot mountain troll" obviously. Kudos, one more time, to JKR.

S.

sorry, i just had to do that...

This is probably not the right place to post this, but I will anyway. In yesterday's paper, there was this huge article about spoiling DH, and the book already being online and stuff like that. As a sidenote, they put in this enormous picture of Dan and Emma from PoA, when they're in the forest and Harry iss holding Hermione in order to protect her from Werewolf Lupin. The image text says:
I just thought it was cute that they chose this exact picture, and wrote only their names. It's like they didn't even think to include Rupert. Poor him...lol

PS. i just want to appologize if there are any mistakes in this post. I'm about to fall asleep as I write this. Night all

Hopefully this one hasn't been previously mentioned (I've read through the whole topic, but I doubt I memorized every mentioned moment): I'm currently re-reading PoA, and on pg 338, I just loved the little moment where Harry and Hermione put out their wands with Nox at the exact same time. Such amazing coordination, sez I. And then "They exchanged a last look, a last nod." Well, well. This is just after the bit where Hermione's holding onto Harry's arm so hard he's losing feeling in it, and he raises his eyebrows at her and she nods and lets go. Hm.

Brilliant catch--I don't understand it, why create this beautiful connection between them that's stronger than everyone else's in the series if they're not going to be romantically involved...I mean you proclaim yourself to a single person then, how could they ever proclaim themselves to other people when they'll never be closer than anyone than they are to each other...

1 day everyone...this is it...

Is it me or could Harry and Hermione not keep their hands off each other in PoA? Or OoTp for that matter....

Thanks! And that grabbing thing seems to be a recurring, ah, "problem", actually, throughout the entire series. Anyone want to tote up how many times Hermione has grabbed Harry's arm? Or that Harry has thrown himself between Hermione and danger? Be a bit of a long list, I suppose, but someone could probably pull it off before DH comes out. And speaking of which...

Not even 26 hours to go....I've been having occasional bouts of freaking out since Monday. I'm currently going through another one as I post this, in fact. Fortunately I'm retaining enough coordination to type... For now, anyway.

Oh my god--are you serious???

Let's make it right f*ing now!



**okay forget modesty, let's all take a book okay, do hermione's hugs count??**

We need 6 HHr shippers...
I'm heading onto the optomism thread--maybe we'll find some there??

I could take PoA, seeing as I'm in the middle of it. If I have time early tomorrow maybe I could do SS and/or CoS (the shortest books y'know). And yes, I'd say Hermione's hugs count; they're simply upgraded arm-grabs, after all.

Im doing how many times Harry thinks about Hermione and her passion about S.P.E.W.

Ok theres some other ones too, like how many times has Harry just had to look at Hermione and she understands him, or gets fluttery and embarassed. I can think of several in....wow actually all 6 books!

I'll take GoF. But it will have to wait till I get back from the mall. My sister goes to work at one and my mom goes to work at three and they want me to eat lunch with them so I have to get up and go. I'll be back later.

This sounds like fun. I'm sorry I won't be able to do it though. I simply don't have the time, seing as I have to finish betaing a story, and then I'm leaving for England in 28 hours. I hope to see some good stuff before then though

In less then 19 hours we'll have most of the answers

Okay, I've gone through PoA and PS looking for hugs and arm-grabs. I had a bit of a problem containing myself to just noting down moments where Harry and Hermione had actual physical contact, though. Ah well... For example, when I came across the Impervius scene, I was struck by the fact that Hermione not only figured out that Harry would be blinded by the rain worse than the other players due to having glasses, she also had a spell ready, and arrived very soon after the team landed. She must have run at top speed to get there so quickly. And yes, I know that Hermione figuring things out and having a spell or other knowledge ready to roll, and to rush off to aid Harry with it is hardly unusual, but...well, that's kind of the point, isn't it?

I also saw one of the earlier incidents of Harry and Hermione communicating with a glance, on page 145 of PoA. But anyway, I need to get to the point of my search...

In Philosopher's Stone (I refuse to call it Sorcerer's Stone even if that's its title over in my country), there isn't all that much, in the end: the bits with contact between H/HR are as follows:
1. When Hermione grabs Harry's wand to use Alohomora on the forbidden door, page 160. Just a note: didn't Ollivander say that using someone else's wand was bad for your spell-casting?
2. When Harry goes and tries to drag Hermione away from the troll. He then decides the thing to do is really to jump on the troll's back and stick his wand up its nose (amazing the way our Harry's brain works, isn't it?). Pages 175-176.
3. The big hug and speech we all know and love so well. No additional comments needed. (Friendship, bravery, and...what?)
4. This is not a moment of actual contact, but I'm mentioning it because it shows Hermione's caring anyway: she wants to go hug Harry on page 301, but holds off, for which he is grateful because his head's sore. Does anyone here doubt that she knew that his head hurt and that's why she restrained herself?

Although I haven't checked CoS yet, as I recall the book where Hermione starts the whole "grab Harry whenever there's danger" thing in PoA, which I will go on to now.
The first note to make is that there are two occasions, on pages 84 and 339, where Hermione and Ron both grab Harry, for purposes of either helping him up (post-Dementor attack, pg 84) or restraining him (pg 339). There are also a couple of times when Harry or Hermione grab the other, but which IMO are suspicious to hold up as shippy moments due to the fact that they're really, at base, functional: these are on pages 416 (Hermione tugs on Harry's sleeve to remind him that they have to get to the hospital wing), page 417 (Harry grabs Hermione's wrist and they tear into a side room to hide from Peeve; granted it wasn't entirely necessary for Harry to grab Hermione there), page 394 (Hermione grabs Harry and drags him into a broom closet to tell him about the Time Turner. And yes, I am aware that "Hermione grabs Harry and drags him into a broom closet to" could have a decidedly different reason and conclusion, but let's not go there right now), and page 405 (another "restraining" grab, by Hermione alone this time, keeping Harry from running out into the open).

The big thing is, however, pretty much every time Hermione's afraid in PoA and she's within reach of Harry she grabs on to him. On page 160, when they spot the Fat Lady's portrait all slashed up, this occurs: A pretty simple ‘“Oh my—” Hermione grabbed Harry’s arm.’ Of course, we’re never told how long it was before she let go…could it have been until all the students were shepherded into the Great Hall? I consider it possible.

Then, during the business outside and in the Shrieking Shack, there are a pair of very nice little arm-grabs:
1. Page 336, Hermione clutches Harry's arm after Crookshanks freezes the Whomping Willow.
2. She then lets go exactly long enough for them to run down a narrow tunnel and arrive in the Shack, at which point, on page 337, she grabs on again as she realizes where they are. She continues holding until, two short pieces of dialogue and two look-arounds later (I'd say about ten or twelve seconds), on page 338, her grip intensifies to the point where Harry loses feeling in his arm. He raises his eyebrows at her and she lets go.

A final bit, which may go under the "functional" list, is when Harry, on page 413, that Hermione had "better hold on" to him, just after giving her "a leg up". Of course, we're never told whether Sirius was holding on to Hermione when he got on behind her...and Hermione was holding on to Harry "very tight"... Well.

In fairness, on page 292, Hermione hugs Ron and breaks down, after he determinedly (well, exact word was "fiercely") says he'll work on Buckbeak's appeal.

Oh yes, nearly forgot: on page 295, Harry and Ron find Hermione asleep at a table, using her Arithmancy book as a pillow. They both sit down next to her, and Harry prods her awake. I still think this whole scene is one of the cutest Trio moments. From the Harmony perspective, it's interesting that Harry is the one who wakes her up, and the fact that he "prodded", instead of "poked". Could just be the vast vocabulary of JK, but there is a bit of a difference in what images the two words convey, at least to me (note that Dobby "pokes" Harry awake).

Incidentally, amongst all the happiness that this search gave me, there was one bad moment, on page 420 of PoA. It was a line I'd seen and recognized before, but this time it gave me a terrible chilling feeling. Observe, as Fudge has a Aragorn-to-Gandalf-pre-Moria type moment with Dumbledore:

'"Fellow seems quite unbalanced," said Fudge, staring after him. "I'd watch out for [Snape] if I were you, Dumbledore."'

Brrr...


Oh, and....LESS THAN TWELVE HOURS TO GO!!! Time for another freak-out period, excuse me...

Guys--

I know I'm picking the easy one but--

I'll take OoTP...

(I mean can any scene be better than a grawp-scene???)

I'll have em' up later today alright!

Well done ThousandMiles. You really found mostly every arm grabbing moment. Its amazing how natural it comes for Hermione, to hold him like that when she's scared. The more frightened she is, the tighter she holds on, she obviously feels more secure that way. We know this because of the Buckbeak scene. Wow Im not a huge romantic type person but the whole Buckbeak scene is pretty ###### romantic....*sigh*. I also kind of think Hermione holds on to him for kind of no reason. Like the fat lady thing was shocking im sure but is it that shocking to grab your friends arm? I dont think so.

Thanks! And I agree: I'm not entirely sure if grabbing Harry's arm was really required after Crookshanks froze the Whomping Willow, for one. Not to mention those "functional" grabs which were not necessarily necessary either...

Whether it's flying on a hippogriff or having a giant grab at her, it's a simple equation: a frightened Hermione = a Hermione holding on to Harry whenever possible.

Well, one big moment in the countdown (9 3/4 hours) has now passed. Excuse me a moment... It's HAMMER TIME!

Here are two from HBP. Chapter 22- Pg 485 US Version



And another:


She just appears in his head at the most random of times doesnt she?

Awwww.... Man, I have more of those moments in DH. Less than twelve hours to go here!

I'm sooooo sorry guys! My friend wants to go 5 flipping hours early to the release (though it's not like we won't get the book if we go just two hours early ) and as she's my ride home, I have to go with her. I promise I'll have GoF up by at least Monday. If anyone else wants to do it, feel free.

Again I'm so sorry about this.

Wow... I see no-one has posted in this thread for close to a year.

I have to say that's surprising, since DH is just chock-full of subtle moments... The Wedding, the tent, Godric's hollow...

Anyways, just seeing if anyone has any love for Harmony still.

Aww GuardianMedic! I do! I know sometimes you want threads like this alive! I love Harmony always have (well not really but I always was a harmony shipper at heart ) I do and I always will. Gosh sounds like I'm saying an oath but Harmony is a part of my heart! You know what I'll post some actually I have a whole sheet of moments that are subtle yet sweet. But now I have to get going!

xoxo
Hana

It's so good to come back here after all this time and remember all this great and true H/Hr moments