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Dragoncateliz
Let's take the trio apart--

Ron staring blank doesn't bode well for RHr...surely a stronger reaction is in order? Okay so HHR is victorious.

Hermione--is equally cast between R/Hr and HHR.

The 'really good quidditch player' line could be a jibe at Ron or a hint towards Harry. The emphasis on the 'almost' gryffindor keeper either was a reference to her helping ron out by hexing Cormac or helping Harry out by doing so. The only sure fire HHR we have is that she beams when she was indignant with Parvati pages before hand--the beam is fake. If Hermione can fake beam here there's no way of knowing her beam when Harry kissed Ginny wasn't also fake.

And Harry--
He's the problem isn't he?
His perception is the problem. Revenge is the wrong word. Hermione is not vengeful--canary angry maybe but not vengeful. Going out with McClaggen is a way of making Ron or Harry jealous. Revenge is not in the cards. This is another example of Harry mis-interpreting Hermione's actions and feelings and another instance that goes by where Ron and harry don't have the girl-talk they've needed to have since GoF. I will say though that 'un-hermonish giggle' and the quote about 'everything they'd ever guessed about hermione' are more examples that show Harry knows her...the scene also ends with Harry thinking about Hermione...
StarbuckJr
We agree in many parts. I'll add another point, but first discuss your take.

QUOTE(Dragoncateliz @ Jun 17 2007, 09:59 PM) *

Let's take the trio apart--

Ron staring blank doesn't bode well for RHr...surely a stronger reaction is in order? Okay so HHR is victorious.


So simply put, yet so true. Ron is not someone who can hide his anger, he blushes furiously. And here, he has a "strangely blank look". Even Harry notices that this mere blank look is less than what was expected of Ron. Harry (we readers too) expected to see him go red in the ears at least. Nothing of that though.



QUOTE(Dragoncateliz @ Jun 17 2007, 09:59 PM) *

Hermione--is equally cast between R/Hr and HHR.

The 'really good quidditch player' line could be a jibe at Ron or a hint towards Harry. The emphasis on the 'almost' gryffindor keeper either was a reference to her helping ron out by hexing Cormac or helping Harry out by doing so. The only sure fire HHR we have is that she beams when she was indignant with Parvati pages before hand--the beam is fake. If Hermione can fake beam here there's no way of knowing her beam when Harry kissed Ginny wasn't also fake.


Here is what i want to point out about her. The "almost" comment can be interpreted as R/Hr if you think she is trying to push McLaggen into Ron's face. But i think it has more HHr merit, for only two persons know the truth behind "McLaggen almost getting Keeper Post"; Harry and Hermione. Thus, the "almost" comment could easily be meant for Harry too. It's as if she is flaunting the fact that it's "her* doing that McLaggen is not in the team and Ron is. She also stated he wouldn't want someone like him on the team, indirectly hinting that he should be thankful for that.

Also, the un-Hermione-ish way Hermione says she is "going out with McLaggen" as she "did" with Krum... She didn't go out with Krum, we know that. They only had a dance and it was obviously one-sided. Second, if she was indeed going out with McLaggen, Parvati would have heard. Third, we see how she tries to stay away from him at the party. We know what her thoughts of McLaggen were during the "he looked confunded this morning" speech. So much for going out with the boy, i think.

QUOTE(Dragoncateliz @ Jun 17 2007, 09:59 PM) *

And Harry--
He's the problem isn't he?
His perception is the problem. Revenge is the wrong word. Hermione is not vengeful--canary angry maybe but not vengeful. Going out with McClaggen is a way of making Ron or Harry jealous. Revenge is not in the cards. This is another example of Harry mis-interpreting Hermione's actions and feelings and another instance that goes by where Ron and harry don't have the girl-talk they've needed to have since GoF.


Or he is right in his interpreting and we are wrong in thinking that he thinks of the revenge is meant for Ron. Who dislikes McLaggen more? And why would Harry think this act as a revenge? Could he be thinking that he did something to deserve that already? Like not inviting Hermione and instead inviting Luna to the party? That is plausible if you think of it.

S.
faithful2thecall
QUOTE(red_samurai21 @ Jun 17 2007, 10:35 AM) *

so making HBP my new favorite book wouldn't really count as a capital crime now, would it? tongue.gif


Dig out the guillotine! twisted.gif


J/K!!! tongue.gif
hexonjellybeans12
QUOTE(faithful2thecall @ Jun 18 2007, 03:24 PM) *

QUOTE(red_samurai21 @ Jun 17 2007, 10:35 AM) *

so making HBP my new favorite book wouldn't really count as a capital crime now, would it? tongue.gif


Dig out the guillotine! twisted.gif


J/K!!! tongue.gif


Let's break out the stake and matches! Wait...that's horribly ironic, isnt it? tongue.gif
Dragoncateliz
Let's just take out the pumpkin pie--I'm all for that.... blush.gif

Another thing though guys and be warned this is very pessimsitic--

"Or he is right in his interpreting and we are wrong in thinking that he thinks of the revenge is meant for Ron. Who dislikes McLaggen more? And why would Harry think this act as a revenge? Could he be thinking that he did something to deserve that already? Like not inviting Hermione and instead inviting Luna to the party? That is plausible if you think of it."

If we've all agreed that Hermione is trying to give up on her feelings for Harry and transfer them to Ron because he's the easier choice...I think we have to agree that she wouldn't keep going back and forth between making Harry and Ron jealous. I think we have to look at the Hermione's actions as pertaining to R/Hr but (here's the positive part) as you stated Harry's the only one who knew the McClaggen-confunding story depths so perhaps her under the surface motivations are sifting through her mask here...

Cause sadly much as I'd like Hermione to be referring to Harry in all these lovely scenarios, it would make her character too frantic and too fickle. If she'd made the grand decision of stopping her feelings for Harry by Jove she'd try harder to stick with it.
stu14688
Alright, I found another good scene. Well, maybe they're angry at each other, but it's a good scene all the same. Anyway, it's in "The Seer Overheard" in HBP.

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"So?" said Harry, scanning the short news item to which the picture belonged; it was a rather dull story about interschool competitions.

"Her name was Eileen Prince. Prince, Harry."

They looked at each other, and Harry realized what Hermione was trying to say. He burst out laughing.

"No way."

"What?"

"You think she was the Half-Blood...? Oh, come on."

"Well, why not? Harry, there aren't any real princes in the Wizarding world! It's either a nickname, a made-up title somebody's given themselves, or it could be their actual name, couldn't it? No, listen! If, say, her father was a wizard whose surname was Prince, and her mother was Muggle, then that would make her a 'half-blood Prince'!"

"Yeah, very ingenious, Hermione..."

"But it would! Maybe she was proud of being half a Prince!"

"Listen, Hermione, I can tell it's not a girl. I can just tell."

"The truth is that you don't think a girl would have been clever enough," said Hermione angrily.

"How can I have hung round with you for five years and not think girls are clever?" said Harry, stung by this...


Not only does Harry understand what Hermione is saying without her saying it (at the beginning), but Hermione - while arguing with him - seems to want to know his opinion of what she's saying. She says, "[O]r it could be their actual name, couldn't it?" (bolding mine) Personally, if I was arguing with someone about something I felt absolutely certain about, I wouldn't leave any room for them to discredit me by asking them if they thought I was right. I would do my upmost to sound as sure as I felt.

That stuff isn't the best part, though. When Hermione accuses Harry of not thinking girls are clever, he (somewhat indirectly) compliments her cleverness - again - and is "stung" by her accusation. He's not just angry at what she said, but rather hurt, too. He doesn't want her thinking that he doesn't think girls can be clever, especially her. I like how he uses her for an example when he has plenty of other girls to name off. He's so fond of Ginny in this book (and since she's supposedly so smart), but he doesn't even seem to think of her. Not to mention that his transfiguration teacher is nearly a carbon copy of Hermione only from a few generations earlier. Then, of course, he's often been told that his own mother was a "clever" witch, but of all these, he says "hung round with you."

This could be down to just the fact that he's arguing with Hermione, so why would he mention someone else? But it's not the only nor the first or last time in this book that he shows how he thinks highly of Hermione's intelligence.

Anyway, I kinda like the scene. If nothing else, I like how, though they fight, they manage to have some amount of respect for one another and she doesn't an emotional wreck with tears streaming down her face. It doesn't come down to cruel mimiking and name calling. They actually argue the point.
ConstantVigilance!
QUOTE(stu14688 @ Jun 19 2007, 06:04 AM) *

This could be down to just the fact that he's arguing with Hermione, so why would he mention someone else? But it's not the only nor the first or last time in this book that he shows how he thinks highly of Hermione's intelligence.


Yes, it's rather odd that Harry is shown admiring Hermione atleast 3 times (if there's more, please tell me) throughout this book, when he's so absorbed in Ginny. It obviously must mean something...
red_samurai21
it's true he never thought of the supposedly clever ginny at all. marvelous ms. bat bogey, for all that she's supposed to be in this book being harry's 'love interest' and all, most of the time, if not always, comes as an afterthought. the fact that harry -a bit indirectly- mentions how smart hermione is in an argument, where you never really can think straight and spit out the first things that come to mind, shows that subconsciously, he concludes that 'girl' and 'clever' within the same sentence pertains to hermione. our favorite bookworm has definitely made an impression on someone... :thumbup: and putting that in plain view of every harmonian has to mean something right?


"How can I have hung round with you for five years and not think girls are clever?"
honestly, how sweet can that comment be?! :wub:
Matchmaker harmony84
QUOTE(red_samurai21 @ Jun 19 2007, 12:29 PM) *

it's true he never thought of the supposedly clever ginny at all. marvelous ms. bat bogey, for all that she's supposed to be in this book being harry's 'love interest' and all, most of the time, if not always, comes as an afterthought. the fact that harry -a bit indirectly- mentions how smart hermione is in an argument, where you never really can think straight and spit out the first things that come to mind, shows that subconsciously, he concludes that 'girl' and 'clever' within the same sentence pertains to hermione. our favorite bookworm has definitely made an impression on someone... thumbup.gif and putting that in plain view of every harmonian has to mean something right?


"How can I have hung round with you for five years and not think girls are clever?"
honestly, how sweet can that comment be?! wub.gif

I thimk ron might not of realized it yet. It took him 4 years to figure it out.
Nora
Nice comparison between PoA and HBP...

Harry to Hermione in PoA:

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"Are you going to report me?" Harry asked her, grinning.


Ron to Hermione in HBP:

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"Yon shouldn't have done it. You heard Slughorn, its illegal."
"What are you going to do, turn us in?" demanded Ron.


Six years of friendship and the guy still doesn't know her. glare.gif
Matchmaker harmony84
QUOTE(Nora @ Jun 19 2007, 12:39 PM) *

Nice comparison between PoA and HBP...

Harry to Hermione in PoA:

QUOTE
"Are you going to report me?" Harry asked her, grinning.


Ron to Hermione in HBP:

QUOTE
"Yon shouldn't have done it. You heard Slughorn, its illegal."
"What are you going to do, turn us in?" demanded Ron.


Six years of friendship and the guy still doesn't know her. glare.gif

I don't think he ever will rolleyes.gif
red_samurai21
QUOTE
At once Lavender and Parvati put their heads together to discuss this new development, with everything they had ever heard about McLaggen, and all they had ever guessed about Hermione


seeing as the story is told from harry's POV, this quote shows that harry knows hermione better than even lavender and parvati, who are in the same year and have shared the same room with her for 6 years now. given how shallow these girls are, they would buy the story, but harry knows that hermione would no sooner die than actually go out with mclaggen, that she was doing this to get back at ron for being a complete *** to her, not even knowing why. i thought it was high time that she got back at him, ron's really done it this time, and she's been taking **** from him for far too long.

as for the "almost keeper" barb, it could be for ron, as ron was there when mclaggen scored 4 out of 5 goals. sure he didn't know that mclaggen had been confunded, but he would have understood it just as well as harry.
AdamantEve
QUOTE(Nora @ Jun 19 2007, 12:39 PM) *

Nice comparison between PoA and HBP...

Harry to Hermione in PoA:

QUOTE
"Are you going to report me?" Harry asked her, grinning.


Ron to Hermione in HBP:

QUOTE
"Yon shouldn't have done it. You heard Slughorn, its illegal."
"What are you going to do, turn us in?" demanded Ron.


Six years of friendship and the guy still doesn't know her. glare.gif

Haha! That's a great comparison! Love it. happy.gif
snoopy_pie
I still think that moment when Hermione announces she only dates "good" quiditch players is a jab at Harry. She knows that Harry prides himself on his quiditch abilities. She is trying to make Harry Jealous not only over her dating another guy but her dating another "Quiditch" fellal
red_samurai21
and my brain keeps dredging up the unthinkably obvious!

another one from HBP, something about ron being nasty to a hurt and bewildered hermione

well whaddaya know? bloke's (harry) not hopelessly, absolutely insensitive after all... thumbup.gif don't y'all just love how he senses hermione's feelings a lot? he kept trying to comfort her but just didn't know how... oh great, i've got the fuzzies... wub.gif thumbup.gif
Ravenclaw(d69)
QUOTE(Nora @ Jun 19 2007, 08:39 AM) *

Nice comparison between PoA and HBP...

Harry to Hermione in PoA:

QUOTE
"Are you going to report me?" Harry asked her, grinning.


Ron to Hermione in HBP:

QUOTE
"Yon shouldn't have done it. You heard Slughorn, its illegal."
"What are you going to do, turn us in?" demanded Ron.


Six years of friendship and the guy still doesn't know her. glare.gif


Amazing comparison that is truly a fantastic find. Harry know her so much better even at such a young age and Ron still doesnt even at the age that he should. Its got nothing to do with "maturity" as JK would put. Its about how well Harry knows Hermione.
magicallyME
decided to re-read OOTP today and came across cute H/Hr moment just now...well harry crediting hermione moment... blush.gif ...especially since before this moment hermione doubted if having the secret DADA club wont be a good idea since sirius supported it...so i imagine harry is mad at hermione and still...

(OOTP; american version pg379)
QUOTE
"...Harry, didn't you do something to your glasses to stop the rain fogging them up when we played Hufflepuff in that storm?"
"Hermione did it," said Harry. He pulled out his wand, tapped his glasses and said, "imperivious!"


i think thats a H/Hr moment smile.gif

hexonjellybeans12
I love how Harry takes pride in Hermione's accompishments....like when Cho's friend got "Sneak" written across her forehead or he tells Slughorn about her....wub.gif
fizzingwhizbee
I don't know if this one counts as "subtle", but one of my favorite moments is the "But I don't think you're ugly " comment by Harry to Hermione in OotP.

The first time I read that I was like, "Say what?!", and I read it over and over.

That's one of the ones that makes me go all mushy/girly/sigh inside... wub.gif
*goes off and grabs OotP, but then forgets her mother put them in storage when she specifically told her not to* SuperAngry.gif
stu14688
QUOTE(fizzingwhizbee @ Jun 19 2007, 10:09 PM) *

I don't know if this one counts as "subtle", but one of my favorite moments is the "But I don't think you're ugly " comment by Harry to Hermione in OotP.

The first time I read that I was like, "Say what?!", and I read it over and over.

That's one of the ones that makes me go all mushy/girly/sigh inside... wub.gif
*goes off and grabs OotP, but then forgets her mother put them in storage when she specifically told her not to* SuperAngry.gif



That is a great moment! I love most how he just seems so agast that she would suggest that she's ugly and quickly corrects her with "But I don't think you're ugly!" It's so sweet! Reminds me of when he sees her at the Yule Ball (Wonderful job on that in the movie, by the way!).
ih8anvils
I love the part in OotP when Harry and Cho are arguing about Hermione and the sneak situation and Cho saying its a horrible trick Harry saying he thought it was brilliant and than Cho says "Yes I forgot it was darling Hermione's idea."In the book the word darling is even italicized. thumbup.gif
Confessa
In OotP, The Second War Begins:

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Ginny caught Harry's eye and looked away quickly, grinning.

'So, anyway,' said Hermione, sitting up a little straighter and wincing again, 'what's going on in school?'


Hm...I wonder why Hermione's beaming and smirking so much in HBP if she can't even stand Ginny catching Harry's eye? And 'what's going on in school?'? Looked like she grabbed at any topic she could find and said it out loud.

Nora
I think Hermione winces because she's still in pain from where the spell hit her.
Confessa
No, I was talking about how she sits up straighter and changes the topic when Ginny caught Harry's eye.
Nora
Oh okay. That's another story then. biggrin.gif
hexonjellybeans12
QUOTE(Confessa @ Jun 20 2007, 03:13 AM) *

In OotP, The Second War Begins:

QUOTE
Ginny caught Harry's eye and looked away quickly, grinning.

'So, anyway,' said Hermione, sitting up a little straighter and wincing again, 'what's going on in school?'


Hm...I wonder why Hermione's beaming and smirking so much in HBP if she can't even stand Ginny catching Harry's eye? And 'what's going on in school?'? Looked like she grabbed at any topic she could find and said it out loud.


I had never noticed that before! Okay, I have a new favorite subtle moment tongue.gif Great catch! Another great moment of Hermione jealousy of a Harry love interest....biggrin.gif
H E Granger
I never noticed! New favourite moment indeed!
thumbup.gif
Ravenclaw(d69)
QUOTE(stu14688 @ Jun 19 2007, 07:41 PM) *

QUOTE(fizzingwhizbee @ Jun 19 2007, 10:09 PM) *

I don't know if this one counts as "subtle", but one of my favorite moments is the "But I don't think you're ugly " comment by Harry to Hermione in OotP.

The first time I read that I was like, "Say what?!", and I read it over and over.

That's one of the ones that makes me go all mushy/girly/sigh inside... wub.gif
*goes off and grabs OotP, but then forgets her mother put them in storage when she specifically told her not to* SuperAngry.gif



That is a great moment! I love most how he just seems so agast that she would suggest that she's ugly and quickly corrects her with "But I don't think you're ugly!" It's so sweet! Reminds me of when he sees her at the Yule Ball (Wonderful job on that in the movie, by the way!).


Hes just so appaled at the idea of her being ugly isnt he? And she obviously was testing him I mean why would she add that randomly? Soooo cute.
gluglug
QUOTE
Hes just so appaled at the idea of her being ugly isnt he? And she obviously was testing him I mean why would she add that randomly? Soooo cute.


Later in HBP, when Harry is with Ginny (yuk), he jokes that Fleur is ugly (don't have the book with me). I'd like to think that this is a very subtle H/Hr moment, b/c he has obviously taken Hermione's advice to heart.
stu14688
QUOTE(gluglug @ Jun 21 2007, 02:03 PM) *

QUOTE
Hes just so appaled at the idea of her being ugly isnt he? And she obviously was testing him I mean why would she add that randomly? Soooo cute.


Later in HBP, when Harry is with Ginny (yuk), he jokes that Fleur is ugly (don't have the book with me). I'd like to think that this is a very subtle H/Hr moment, b/c he has obviously taken Hermione's advice to heart.



Ooh, I never thought of that, but you're right! Great catch!
AdamantEve
QUOTE(stu14688 @ Jun 21 2007, 03:36 PM) *

QUOTE(gluglug @ Jun 21 2007, 02:03 PM) *

QUOTE
Hes just so appaled at the idea of her being ugly isnt he? And she obviously was testing him I mean why would she add that randomly? Soooo cute.


Later in HBP, when Harry is with Ginny (yuk), he jokes that Fleur is ugly (don't have the book with me). I'd like to think that this is a very subtle H/Hr moment, b/c he has obviously taken Hermione's advice to heart.



Ooh, I never thought of that, but you're right! Great catch!

Wah! Why, that IS a fabulous catch! heart.gif
gluglug
I thought of another H/Hr moment in HBP, not as subtle as the last one wink.gif

QUOTE
Listen, Hermione, I can tell it's not a girl. I can just tell.'

The truth is that you don't think a girl would have been clever enough,' said Hermione angrily.

'How can I have hung round with you for five years and not think girls are clever?' said Harry, stung by this.


Even in the midst of an argument, he still finds the time to compliment her! And by being "stung," he feels hurt that she could ever think that of him.

I also find the timing of this argument interesting - this is when Harry is with Ginny. If we're to believe that Hermione wants Harry, her hopes have already been dashed that Harry would be romantically interested in her. But she has always been pretty secure in her role as his brainy advisor up until now, but she must be feeling extra sensitive at this point.

Perhaps she is also testing his feelings, just like with the ugly comment. She says something negative about herself and Harry is bewildered when she puts herself down.
Ravenclaw(d69)
QUOTE(gluglug @ Jun 24 2007, 09:02 AM) *

I thought of another H/Hr moment in HBP, not as subtle as the last one wink.gif

QUOTE
Listen, Hermione, I can tell it's not a girl. I can just tell.'

The truth is that you don't think a girl would have been clever enough,' said Hermione angrily.

'How can I have hung round with you for five years and not think girls are clever?' said Harry, stung by this.


Even in the midst of an argument, he still finds the time to compliment her! And by being "stung," he feels hurt that she could ever think that of him.

I also find the timing of this argument interesting - this is when Harry is with Ginny. If we're to believe that Hermione wants Harry, her hopes have already been dashed that Harry would be romantically interested in her. But she has always been pretty secure in her role as his brainy advisor up until now, but she must be feeling extra sensitive at this point.

Perhaps she is also testing his feelings, just like with the ugly comment. She says something negative about herself and Harry is bewildered when she puts herself down.



That is soooo true. This passage is exactly like the 'ugly' comment. And think of the timing, when Hermione was testing Harry about her being ugly it was after Harry and Cho had gotten together. The whole thing about her not being clever was after Harry and Ginny had gotten together.


StarbuckJr
Great Merlin and his friggin' beard! Thanks to you guys, HBP is becoming a favourite on my part.

And gluglug, i so much agree with you. The timing of Hermione's comment, both here in HBP and in OotP, and Harry's reply in both instance. Both times he answers like it's second nature, like there is no doubt in his mind when it comes to Hermione.

I love PK!

S.
Dragoncateliz
I have to say Harry calling Fleur ugly and Hermione not ugly is kind of like his reaction to the veela at the quidditch world cup, when he was entranced as hell by them and almost jumped off from the stands until Hermione said 'Harry what are you doing' and the spell was broken...

Ron however was still under the spell...seriously Hermione needs to just look harry in the eye about ginny and say 'harry, what are you doing?' to jolt him up from his HBP-ness...
eupho TPO4
QUOTE(Dragoncateliz @ Jun 25 2007, 08:09 AM) *

I have to say Harry calling Fleur ugly and Hermione not ugly is kind of like his reaction to the veela at the quidditch world cup, when he was entranced as hell by them and almost jumped off from the stands until Hermione said 'Harry what are you doing' and the spell was broken...

Ron however was still under the spell...seriously Hermione needs to just look harry in the eye about ginny and say 'harry, what are you doing?' to jolt him up from his HBP-ness...



Hmmm... At the QWC Harry was mesmerised by a physically attractive female (Fleur/the veelas) and it took Hermione to break the spell by asking him what he was doing; and in HBP he was mesmerised by another physically attractive female (Ginny) and Hermione fixed that by intervening again, this time by hugging Harry in front of Ginny in the hospital wing (more or less taking him right out of Ginny's arms).

And of course she "indirectly" broke up H/Cho by getting him to meet her on Valentine's Day, thus interrupting (or crashing) the big date...

And at the Yule Ball, even though she was with Viktor, she ruined Harry's night with Parvati by spending most of the evening with him.

Whenever Harry gets a girl, Hermione stops it. Now why would she keep doing that, if she's only a friend who wants him to be happy in his relationships?
Irishbeauty1991
My favorite H/Hr part was when Hermione gets swiped at by Gwarp and Harry pulls her back.....I swear I re-read that part 50 times. Also the famous part where Harry flips out thinking Hermione is dead sad.gif I re-read that part a lot too blush.gif

Actually now that I think of it, I have a lot of favorites but I don't feel like typing them all tongue.gif
stu14688
QUOTE(Irishbeauty1991 @ Jun 25 2007, 12:55 PM) *

Actually now that I think of it, I have a lot of favorites but I don't feel like typing them all tongue.gif


Ah, just do like the rest of us and post a new one every few days or so. lol
hexonjellybeans12
QUOTE(gluglug @ Jun 24 2007, 01:02 PM) *

I thought of another H/Hr moment in HBP, not as subtle as the last one wink.gif

QUOTE
Listen, Hermione, I can tell it's not a girl. I can just tell.'

The truth is that you don't think a girl would have been clever enough,' said Hermione angrily.

'How can I have hung round with you for five years and not think girls are clever?' said Harry, stung by this.


Even in the midst of an argument, he still finds the time to compliment her! And by being "stung," he feels hurt that she could ever think that of him.

I also find the timing of this argument interesting - this is when Harry is with Ginny. If we're to believe that Hermione wants Harry, her hopes have already been dashed that Harry would be romantically interested in her. But she has always been pretty secure in her role as his brainy advisor up until now, but she must be feeling extra sensitive at this point.

Perhaps she is also testing his feelings, just like with the ugly comment. She says something negative about herself and Harry is bewildered when she puts herself down.


I loved this moment...I re-read it a few times. I thought it was cute that he was "stung" by a comment that, in turn, would insult her.
Nora
I love this from OotP:

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The second Death Eater, however, had leapt aside to avoid Harry's spell and was pointing his own wand at Hermione, who was crawling out from under the desk to get a better aim.
'Avada -
Harry launched himself across the floor and grabbed the Death Eater around the knees, causing him to topple and his aim to go awry.


Notice how Harry doesn't even think of using 'Stupefy' or anything like that? Instead, he just throws himself across the floor and kicks the DE over. biggrin.gif Someone's defending their girl I'd say. tongue.gif

harmony_inlove
QUOTE(Nora @ Jun 26 2007, 12:26 PM) *

I love this from OotP:

QUOTE
The second Death Eater, however, had leapt aside to avoid Harry's spell and was pointing his own wand at Hermione, who was crawling out from under the desk to get a better aim.
'Avada -
Harry launched himself across the floor and grabbed the Death Eater around the knees, causing him to topple and his aim to go awry.


Notice how Harry doesn't even think of using 'Stupefy' or anything like that? Instead, he just throws himself across the floor and kicks the DE over. biggrin.gif Someone's defending their girl I'd say. tongue.gif


oh my nice catch nora! true! why did he have to launch himself when he can use his wand! here's harry working with his instinct again!
StarbuckJr
QUOTE(Nora @ Jun 26 2007, 12:26 PM) *

I love this from OotP:

QUOTE
The second Death Eater, however, had leapt aside to avoid Harry's spell and was pointing his own wand at Hermione, who was crawling out from under the desk to get a better aim.
'Avada -
Harry launched himself across the floor and grabbed the Death Eater around the knees, causing him to topple and his aim to go awry.


Notice how Harry doesn't even think of using 'Stupefy' or anything like that? Instead, he just throws himself across the floor and kicks the DE over. biggrin.gif Someone's defending their girl I'd say. tongue.gif


I never noticed this. You are right. Harry would try to stop a Death Eater (or anyone i guess) about to AK anyone, he's proficient in wandwork. He disarmed Snape in less than a second, so in this situation he had a long list of spells to stop the Death Eater, but he chooses the most stupid and self-dangering way to do it. Or maybe the second most stupid way; since the first would be him stepping in front of Hermione to get AKed himself. Anyway, he reacts quite instinctively. Maybe he wanted to "solve" the problem more radically, or maybe Hermione being in danger makes him forget all decorum and get protective.

S.
Dragoncateliz
The best thing about Harry protecting Hermione is how quickly he loses his reason...like when harry and ron are entangled in the devil's snare and hermione forgets to use magic...Harry never even thinks of using magic when Hermione's endangered...

'braced himself to punch or kick' or something grawp like...when the death eater begins the killing curse harry lunges without thinking...he's so primitive with our Hermione... blush.gif
Ravenclaw(d69)
QUOTE(Nora @ Jun 25 2007, 08:26 PM) *

I love this from OotP:

QUOTE
The second Death Eater, however, had leapt aside to avoid Harry's spell and was pointing his own wand at Hermione, who was crawling out from under the desk to get a better aim.
'Avada -
Harry launched himself across the floor and grabbed the Death Eater around the knees, causing him to topple and his aim to go awry.


Notice how Harry doesn't even think of using 'Stupefy' or anything like that? Instead, he just throws himself across the floor and kicks the DE over. biggrin.gif Someone's defending their girl I'd say. tongue.gif


Amazing catch Nora! Whenever Hermione is endangerd Harry forgets completly that he is indeed a very powerful wizard who is quite capable of defending her with magic. He physically reacts without even thinking.
Nora
Another sweet moment:

QUOTE
When the bell echoed distantly over the grounds, Harry rolled up his blood-stained Bowtruckle picture and marched off to Herbology with his hand wrapped in Hermione's handkerchief, [...].


I love this imagery. I mean, back in the old times, a woman would give her handkerchief to her man to cover his wounds.
winky3412
Wow, this thread is great. thumbup.gif
First off, I just want to say that before I found the old one with 48 pages of Harmony, I had only read HBP once in English since it was released, and then halfway through the Norwegian translation after that. finding this thread with all the great moments made me start reading that dreaded thing again, and I've gotta say, I was far from dissapointed biggrin.gif Also, this thread is what made me get an account here on the Pk forums.

Secondly, I can't remember who asked, but on the one of the last pages on the old thread, somebody asked for the scribbles on the English FB&WTFT. I couldn't find an answer to it, so here it is:
QUOTE
This book belongs to Harry Potter
Shared by Ron Weasley because his fell apart
Why don't you buy a new one then?
Write on your own book Hermione
You bought all those dungbombs on Saturday. You could have bought a new book instead.
Dungbombs rule

On the next page there's a game of hangman where you're supposed to find the word acrumantula, and then some kind of game I don't know the English word for, before[color]
QUOTE
Harry loves Moaning Myrtle
and lastly there's this.

QUOTE
[color=red]Chudley Canons Write a decent team in my book for a change, Wealsey

Hope that helps

And thirdly, to the reason why I'm really posting this: I was reading HBP, and in the chapter called "An Excess of Phlegm" I found a couple of things. I'm not really sure they count as moments, and they might be too subtle, but I like them

QUOTE
( HBP, chapter 5, page 89, Bloomsbury edition)
..."Not bad," said Ron, pulling over a cardboard box and sitting on it. "When did you get here? Mum's only just told us!"
"About one o'clock this morning."
"Where the Muggles all right? Did they treat you OK?"
"Same as usual," said Harry, as Hermione perched herself on the edge of his bed*
"They didn't talk to me much, but I like it better that way. How are you, Hermione?"


*Bolding mine
Now, if Hermione was into Ron, why would she choose to sit on Harry's bed instead of on another box next to her supposed love interest? Also, notice how Harry doesn't want to talk about himself, but is far more interested in hearing about how Hermione is. Just a little thought-provoking, I think.
Admittedly, Ginny sits on Harry's bed as well, further down the page, but hey, we know she's into him tongue.gif

The second one is in the same chapter, rigth after Fleur and Mrs. Weasley brought Harry breakfast, and then left Harry, Hermione, Ron and Ginny alone again.

QUOTE
"Yeah, that'll work," said Ron sarcastically. "Listen, no bloke in his right mind's going to fancy Tonks when Fleur's around. I mean, Tonks is OK.looking when she isn't doing stupid things to her hair and nose, but - "
"She's a ###### sight better than Phlegm," said Ginny.
"And she's moreintelligent, she's an Auror!" said Hermione from the corner.
"Fleur's not stupid, she was good enough to enter the Triwizard Tournament," said Harry.
"Not you as well!" said Hermione bitterly.*


*Bolding mine
I really like this scene. Harry wasn't even complementing Fleur, he was just stating the truth; she wouldn't have been ib the tournament if she wasn't smart enough to solve the tasks. Yet Hermione appears jealous that Harry has something nice to say about Fleur; She responds in a bitter voice, bitter here meaning "Resulting from or expressive of severe grief, anguish, or disappointment: cried bitter tears." (Definition from SmarterChild, on msn messenger) Is she just annoyed that both her best friends are "smitten" by fleur? I think not! rose.gif worshippy.gif


Good Lord, this was a lot of typing for my first post:lol:
Dragoncateliz
winky3412

that was an amazing first post!! **is proud of fellow ship mate!**
StarbuckJr
QUOTE(winky3412 @ Jun 26 2007, 10:38 PM) *

Secondly, I can't remember who asked, but on the one of the last pages on the old thread, somebody asked for the scribbles on the English FB&WTFT. I couldn't find an answer to it, so here it is:
QUOTE
This book belongs to Harry Potter
Shared by Ron Weasley because his fell apart
Why don't you buy a new one then?
Write on your own book Hermione
You bought all those dungbombs on Saturday. You could have bought a new book instead.
Dungbombs rule

On the next page there's a game of hangman where you're supposed to find the word acrumantula, and then some kind of game I don't know the English word for, before[color]
QUOTE
Harry loves Moaning Myrtle
and lastly there's this.

QUOTE
[color=red]Chudley Canons Write a decent team in my book for a change, Wealsey

Hope that helps


I guess i was the one asking for the english script. Thank you. I don't remember though what point i was trying to make back then, it seems like ages ago.

QUOTE(winky3412 @ Jun 26 2007, 10:38 PM) *

And thirdly, to the reason why I'm really posting this: I was reading HBP, and in the chapter called "An Excess of Phlegm" I found a couple of things. I'm not really sure they count as moments, and they might be too subtle, but I like them

QUOTE
( HBP, chapter 5, page 89, Bloomsbury edition)
..."Not bad," said Ron, pulling over a cardboard box and sitting on it. "When did you get here? Mum's only just told us!"
"About one o'clock this morning."
"Where the Muggles all right? Did they treat you OK?"
"Same as usual," said Harry, as Hermione perched herself on the edge of his bed*
"They didn't talk to me much, but I like it better that way. How are you, Hermione?"


*Bolding mine
Now, if Hermione was into Ron, why would she choose to sit on Harry's bed instead of on another box next to her supposed love interest? Also, notice how Harry doesn't want to talk about himself, but is far more interested in hearing about how Hermione is. Just a little thought-provoking, I think.
Admittedly, Ginny sits on Harry's bed as well, further down the page, but hey, we know she's into him tongue.gif


Last bolding mine. Yes, we know *now* Ginny is into him, but was she when Harry came to visit them? I mean, wasn't she dating Micheal or Dean during that time? So why is she feeling to territorial? Because of Hermione of course. Cho had the same reaction back in OotP too. Whoever wants to get close to Harry feels intimidated by Hermione. Rightfully so.

Also, your take on why she chooses to sit next to Harry instead of Ron makes sense. At this point (before their sixth year started, when everything was fine), i think being close to Harry, both physically and psychologically, was second nature for Hermione. I also think that her OOCness is due to her realizing that she's losing this particular privilege. Whether she is aware of the depth of her feelings is debatable, but they go deep for sure.

QUOTE(winky3412 @ Jun 26 2007, 10:38 PM) *

The second one is in the same chapter, rigth after Fleur and Mrs. Weasley brought Harry breakfast, and then left Harry, Hermione, Ron and Ginny alone again.

QUOTE
"Yeah, that'll work," said Ron sarcastically. "Listen, no bloke in his right mind's going to fancy Tonks when Fleur's around. I mean, Tonks is OK.looking when she isn't doing stupid things to her hair and nose, but - "
"She's a ###### sight better than Phlegm," said Ginny.
"And she's more intelligent, she's an Auror!" said Hermione from the corner.
"Fleur's not stupid, she was good enough to enter the Triwizard Tournament," said Harry.
"Not you as well!" said Hermione bitterly.*


*Bolding mine
I really like this scene. Harry wasn't even complementing Fleur, he was just stating the truth; she wouldn't have been ib the tournament if she wasn't smart enough to solve the tasks. Yet Hermione appears jealous that Harry has something nice to say about Fleur; She responds in a bitter voice, bitter here meaning "Resulting from or expressive of severe grief, anguish, or disappointment: cried bitter tears." (Definition from SmarterChild, on msn messenger) Is she just annoyed that both her best friends are "smitten" by fleur? I think not! rose.gif worshippy.gif


Good Lord, this was a lot of typing for my first post:lol:


I must admit that i'm surprised i never noticed this one. Nice catch! I think Hermione's reaction here is more along the lines of jealousy. Harry differs here from Ron and Ginny, both of whom judge and compare Tonks and Fleur based on their looks, yet Hermione and Harry argue based on their intelligence. Still though, even if Hermione realizes this or not, she has a go at Harry for seemingly taking Fleur's side, which really he does not. He was just pointing out the fact that Fleur was really intelligent too, just like Tonks.

Later we see, as was posted in this thread, Hermione's insecurities taking over her because of Prince's book and she accusing Harry for thinking that a girl couldn't be clever enough. She should have known better; she did witness Harry defending a girl because of her intelligence. Harry would of course feel stung by this, here he was appreciating and defending clever girls all along.

So, how on earth Harry falls for a girl because of her looks? If i remember correctly, he might have mentioned Ginny's intelligence in passing, but he praises her looks constantly. What caused the change in him? Is Ginny that drop-dead-gorgeous beautiful, even more than a Veela?! This, i couldn't understand for the life of me.

Last but not least, that's one helluva first post winky3412! I am proud of my shipmate too biggrin.gif

S.
wallflower
I'm currently re-reading HBP and its not as bad as I remembered or that people claim...perhaps its because I know what to expect and can prepare myself. Anyway, Hermione's "fanciable" speech to Harry and the Amortentia scene are well-known, but here's another moment that I've come across and, I think, is similar to the aforementioned scenes.

Here's the "fanciable" speech:
QUOTE(Hermione's Helping Hand @ p.206-7)
'Oh, come on, Harry,' said Hermione, suddenly impatient. 'It's not Quidditich that's popular, it's you! You've never been more interesting and, frankly, you've never been more fanciable.'

Ron gagged on a large piece of kipper. Hermione spared him one look of disdain before turning back to Harry.

<snip> (Hermione goes on a spiel about Harry's trials from OoTP (i.e. Umbridge)

'You can still see where those brains got hold of me in the Ministry, look,' said Ron, shaking back his sleeves.

'And it doesn't hurt that you've grown about a foot over the summer, either,' Hermione finished, ignoring Ron.

'I'm tall,' said Ron inconsequentially.



QUOTE(The Half-Blood Prince @ p.163)
Harry and Ron met Hermione in the common room before breakfast next morning. Hoping for some support for his theory, Harry lost no time in telling Hermione what he had overheard Malfoy saying on the Hogwarts Express.

'But he was obviously showing off for Parkinson, wasn't he?" interjected Ron quickly, before Hermione could say anything.

'Well,' she said uncertainly, 'I don't know ... it would be like Malfoy to make himself seem more important than he is ... but that's a big lie to tell ...'

'Exactly,' said Harry ... so many people were trying to listen in to his conversation, not to mention staring at him and whispering behind their hands.

'It's rude to point,' Ron snapped to a particularly minuscule first-year...


The Amortentia scene:
QUOTE(The Half-Blood Prince @ p. 176-7)
'Oho! "One of my best friends is Muggle-born and she's the best in our year!" I'm assuming this is the very friend of whom you spoke, Harry?'

<snip>

Hermione turned to Harry with a radiant expression and whispered, 'Did you really tell him I'm the best in the year? Oh, Harry!'

'Well, what's so impressive about that?' whispered Ron, who for some reason looked annoyed. 'You are the best in the year - I'd've told him so if he asked me!'

Hermione smiled but made a 'shush'ing gesture, so that they could hear what Slughorn was saying. Ron looked slightly disgruntled.


Poor Ron. In the HBP chapter, its only the first week of the term and he's already bombarded by H/Hr-ness.
kikyo
I LOVE ALL HARMONY MOMENTS YOU ALL POSTED

btw, I like the scenes of everytime crookshanks behave nicely towards harry, it's only harry
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