Maybe she brings it up because she knows that shipping SELLS. She knows that shipping is what brings up the most heated debates. She says shipping isn't a big deal of the books, but in the fandoms, it's very popular.

Miss Mady

That's probably true, especially among the older fans (like us), though that seems pretty low. If it isn't a big deal, dont' make it that way.

The worst (best?) part of it is that she knows that shipping gathers most of the debates. Shipping might not be a big part of the HP books, but love (and what Harry will ultimately need) is.

Miss Mady

That it sells, of course...she would be crazy to deny it...IMO, she knows love will determine the outcome of the series...the big question is who's love that is, for Harry, as he's the one to conclude the series...

JK knows very well that shipping is a cause for debate...not only is she banking on it, but she's sending mixed signals, because she probably enjoys reading inventive theories on PK, and looking for inspiration at the same time...I doubt she knows even half the stuff we've uncovered that's connected to HHr in terms of astronomy, symbols, astrology, and the fantastic amount of evidence...


But that's just a speculation ...chances are, she doesn't want to lose her fan base, and that's why she is going to give some sort of alternate pairing...

Out of curiosity, wouldn't it be hilarious if J.K. were to introduce three new characters who hook up with each of the trio? That blows about ten ships right out of the water.

Bit too late, but would be hilarious!

Miss Mady

Yeah...and how would that make you feel?

Awful, at first, but then I'd laugh my head off at the razor-sharp irony of the situation

It would be ironic, yes, but can you imagine, the poor Herons...in therapy for the next twenty years...

I'd love to see the look on Emerson's face! I can just see him go "But the interveiw! It was supposed to be Ron and Hermione!"

Then we can tell him 'It's HER story! She can do whatever she wants with it!"

That's my second best scenario after H/Hr, actually, of course if those pairings are well portrayed and bring something to the plot. I'm doubting it can happen with only the final book remaining, but if each one's LI is credible and interesting, and if the couples are realistics, it would still be better than
OBHWF.



That would be a dream come true!!

LOL!

I could just see it now too. Oh man, I think he'd never show his face again.

I'm even wondering what would happen to Mugglenet?

That would be priceless.

One can wish, right?

Maybe he'd take it down in a mad fit of rage before maybe hiring hitmen to every bookstore around the world to hijack the rest of HP 7, and then rewriting it himself (Oooh, scary thought...)

Is memerson delusional enough to do that? me no think so...but who knows, he might be crazy enough to do it..."super-memerson...swooping down from the sky to save the world from HP7 and unfortunately ending up on the receiving end of a swung purse..."crazy hooligan"-muttered the old-lady, while shuffling away from the unconscious form of the said hooligan...and the last thing heard about memerson was that he was recovering in a mental institution with the best possible care...*


I seriously think we might see this in the news sometime this summer...

Not really. Rowling in my eyes would be a hack who has nothing better to do than play tricks on her fans.

Which we know she isn't and that's another reason why I know it'll be H/Hr!

She wouldn't introduce a character this late either. Would she really try to play tricks on us?


Woot!

Miss Mady

She's already said that she won't introduce any more new characters. So this worry seems unfounded IMO.

~Salamon2

Good point. I only remember her saying that we'll learn more about one of her favorite characters (an auror in the Order, I believe).

That's depressing to me, because I always think it'll be something about Lupin. Also in the ::earth crumbles:: interview ::runs and hides:: ... she said somethng about we (T/L fans) will hate her... I'm afraid my only canon ship at the moment will sunk badly...


But that's no the point... in this moment I'm 70% sure it'll be HHr.... sometimes it's just like 0&... yeah, it sucks.

I'd rather have Harry with Luna or any other girl, than Ginny ¬¬

Really? She said that T/L fans will hate her for something? (Hehe, I keep thinking T/L is Tom/Luna... I've been spending too much time at FAP.. ) Wow... I actually thought it might be something about Lily (she might've been an Auror)... and we were supposed to learn something about her, anyways.

Miss Mady

Is that an actual ship? If so, I'd love to see the cannon evidence for that...

Tom/Luna...he's already crazy enough...Luna is insane in her own unique way...I don't see a problem here

Hmmm...I don't remember anyhting like that in the IoD. Could you please link and/or quote because I'm a bit confused.



Hmmm...I guess I'd rather have H/L than H/G but really, I don't want H/L at all. I've never seen any canon evidence towards that ship and I believe people who ship them only do so because they like the 2 characters. I don't see them as a couple. Never have, never will.

I, too, don't remember having read anything like Tonks/Lupin fans would hate her in book 7; I remember her saying that the used T/L as a plot device to trick people (Harry thinks Tonks loved Sirius), but nothing else. Unfortunately I'm at work so going to the IoD and looking for it would take too much time and I'm constantly disturbed.

What I remember her saying about the fact that some people would hate her is a little confused; in another interview she was talking about book 7 and she was questionned about Harry's and the trio's possible deaths and she said that she would not answer to avoid the hate mail until after the release (not sure of anything here).
Another time she said that some people hated book 6 (guess who she was talking about ) and that some fans were going to hate book 7 too (before panicking: it's not sure she was talking about the same "some fans" and the same reasons).

Or maybe I'm confusing a lot of different interviews, I don't know.

The interview you are thinking about here is when she said...paraphrasing of course...

Some people were not going to like book 6, but that it did what it needed to do. And some people were going to loathe book 7.

To tell you the truth, I wish she would stop giving interviews. I would rather that she release information that is not going to make it into the books. Like some birthdays or more background information on characters like she did with Dean.

Yeah...her giving interviews and saying hints and anvils for people to interpret her story kind of aggravates me...if she had been successful in her writing, she doesn't need to give us feedbacks on how we should perceive the book, kind of defeats the purpose, really...

Giving interviews and the like...I know it is for publicity purposes, but come on, I was A-Okay with HBP but the IOD ruined it for me, big time!

You know I agree with you on this.

Same here. When HBP came out, I was like "Okay, we can deal with this." When IoD came out, I was in tears. I think my mom thought something was seriously wrong with me (but then agian, when Harry kissed Ginny, I went downstairs to the rest of my family nearly in tears...so I guess it shouldn't have surprised her that much... )

What can you do...IoD angered me, but it was just a publicity stunt...I guess she felt a small twinge of pity for mugglenet, and decided to lift their spirits a bit...after all, we all know that JK's policy to romance is to always stick in the gray area...increasing intrigue with that interview is also one tool to make HP7 the fastest selling book of all time...don't sweat over it, I'm sure we'll sail into the horizon of eternity successfully...

It still doesn't stop her comments from being insulting and hurtful, not to mention made probably about a quarter of her fanbase jump ship. Then the question I pose is... Was it worth it? She got a lot of Herons really happy, but dropped a lot of Harmonians, which was still a large part of her fanbase.

P.S. You're getting really good at the recruiting, aren't you? Keep it up!

It's purely business...she's built up a money empire around her...after HP, she can choose not to right another line, and still be very well off...look at mugglenet and portkey...they have rougly 4 times more members than we do...if we take this model, then she will gravitate towards the largest group, and add to it any way she can...in this case, with that f*ckin interview...and of which there's no record...except memerson's word...but we all know how reliable he is

was it worth it?...maybe...from a moral point of view, I think it is not...she has to justify her remarks, and so far she hasn't...the only way to do so, is an HHr ending...or give us an extremely, but an extremely good explanation for choosing R/Hr, if she does so...


*Yeah, thanks...I'm thinking of some other ways to attract members...how about a presentation of some sort?*

Well, in the IoD, I really don't think there was any canon of any kind, which is what makes it so puzzling. I"m still trying to figure out what "emotional journey" Harry and Ginny went on together...did they use frequent flyer miles and just dissapeared for awhile, or what?

*And whatever you want...I'm not sure...we could always use the old Uncle Sam poster and just re-write the words *

Emotional journey means a lot of things...it can also be meaningless, as in the sense to forget...Ginny was Harry's escape...she represents the life he would have if there was no Voldemort, prophecy, and his parents were alive...it's a journey to signify his ideal vision of life...

But because in real life he has to deal with all those troubles, he needs someone to cope, and that someone is not Ginny, but Hermione...in the end, there will be no more Voldemort, but the memories and emotional scars will remain forever...and that's something only Hermione can fully understand, besides Harry...simply put, she's Harry's ideal girl for his true self...


*funnily enough, uncle sam was the one I had in mind when i wrote that in my signature...*

But, IMO, being an escape does not count as an emotional journey....it counts as a lapse of santy...but not an emotional journey....

*Nice! *

so...say you have a crush on the quarterback, and you know life would be perfect if you two were going out...is that insane, or just unrealistic? You know next to nothing about him as a person...but still, you feel attracted to him...what im getting at, is that Ginny had her fifteen minutes of fame with the Harry Potter...not the person, but with the celebrity...take a second, to imagine what you'd feel if you were going out with the quarterback...a sense of accomplishment, newfound confidence, bragging rights...in general, euphoria that you were able to ever do such a thing...chances are, it won't last...and that parallels with Ginny's experience...Harry was doing to her what Ron was to Lavender...it wasn't much talking, but mainly snogging...a real relationship requires communication with and without words...but you'd be involved with someone you know as a person, and is aware of your strengths, weaknesses, thoughts and feelings...and that's an emotional journey...no such thing with R/Hr or H/G...

I suppose you could call the emotional journey of H/G more like an adrenaline rush...it was quick, and fizzed out even quicker...but that doesn't rule out the fact that feelings in those two weeks were very strong, before they turned stone cold at the funeral...


*did I just agree with you and contradict myself?! *

Pretty much Though I agree with you that Ginny would see it as an accomplishment, and not something that would benefit both parties.

Ginny
Hermione

But is it possible for Ginny to ensnare Harry by some wicked means again...during the wedding or at another point in the books?

It is quite possible, especially if the Love Potion theory comes to be, but hopefully by then Harry would look around and see that the monster in his chest may have just been a really bad case of indigestion

Or possibly heartburn...*note to self...go easy on the love potions *

All right, I've always thought that Ron reacts to Hermy and boys the same way he reacts to Ginny and boys, however, one thing concerns me.

His reaction to Krum. If it was just a sibling thing, why did he rip apart the minature Krum? I mean, I suppose it could be carelessness..heck, Crookshanks could have done it, but it was certainly implied that Ron ripped it apart.

I mean, I guess it's possible, actually quite realistic for Ron to have a crush for a few months, and then have it go away, but that's unusual in literature.

I don't quite understand the Krum thing either, but is it not a similar reaction to the one he had with Michael Corner after finding out about him and Ginny in OotP? He didn't appear to show any hostility toward either of them before finding out about a possible relationship with Hermione/Ginny. Since I've actually got my book here, I might as well do some quoting.

and

The Krum thing is jealousy from Ron, that's obvious; it's the reason that is not. His reactions could indicate that yes, it's because of Hermione dating him; or because she got the attention of his favorite quidditch player. When the Durmstrang students arrive and he realizes that Krum is with them, he would do anything to be noticed by him; but it's Hermione who got Krum's attention. This kind of jealousy has no sexual aspect, it's frustration.

Nasty image got into my head...



Anyway, if Ron had a crush on Hermione since fourth year, and has lasted all the way to sixth year and through book seven, then I take my hat to him... two years (or more?) crushing over the same girl... I don't know, that's quite a lot...


But no! Pumpkin pie! Pumpkin pie! Pumpkin pie!

Salut, Blueangel.

So you think the "fraternizing with the enemy" thing was just a rationalization? That Ron doesn't wear his feelings on his sleeve, and is capable of saying other than what he means? Kayemsi2 might take issue with you on that, and Elarinya might follow suit. These two posts of theirs, in conjunction with the fact that Ron's Patronus is a dog (frequently, as is fairly well known, a living Foe-Glass to its significant humans!) are partly responsible for making me wonder recently how right Ron has really been in distrusting Viktor.

Hey! No need to be so agressive. I was just explaining why Ron's behavior not necessarily means that he crushes on Hermione. It does not include him distrusting Viktor. And I can very well be wrong.

Just discussing.

Yes, the whole "induced love monster" syndrome can really wear on your esophagus, not to mention your psyche. XD

It's about as wearing on Psyche as an Aphrodite can be. After all if you had to sort grain all day, pick golden wool from rams, and go to the underworld and back to get some of the Queen of the Dead's beauty (Persephone), it's going to put some wear and tear on Psyche.

I'm a myth geek... I really am...

~Salamon2

I think definatly what makes us uncomfortable is the whole thing about Hermione's "smug" looks in HBP. Another thing is how JKR told us that Harry and Hermione's realationship is "Platonic and thats all" Those are the 2 things that we try not to discuss because theres really no way that we can get around that.