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I was watching GOF today and well I noticed that a lot of the characters in HP think that there's something going on between Harry and Hermione and I realised that we don't give that much of a thought to this...

1.Viktor saw how HHr where more than friends...because Hermione cared too much for Harry, more than a friend would, and he felt that Hermione talked too much of Harry, anyway he was supicious of them..

2.Cho, well basicly saw the same that Viktor did but coming from Harry. Harry admires Hermione a lot! He stood up for her if Cho said something negative about her and he interrupted his date with Cho to meet hermione as promised.

3.Ron, why Ron? because in the fifth book there's a passage when he enters Griffindor's commun room and sees Harry and Hermione talking and he acts like if he was jealous...maybe there aren't too many moments in which he acts like this but I think it's because he thinks that if there was anything going on between Harry and Hermione they would tell him, but the problem I see is that Harry and Hermione haven't realised this themselves..

4.Now...Rita, I know that most of the things she writes are known to be a lie but who knows..maybe for the first time she wrote something true!

I know this might have been mentioned before but I hope that you all can analise this more carefuly in here and try to explain why JK has made all these characters jealous of HHr...

P.S: Sorry if it was badly written I'm not really good at this

Don't forget Prof. McGonagall.

In COS when Hermionie was petrified, she sought out only Harry to tell. Then she told Ron that he might as well come along too. She didn't seek out Ron.

Also, don't forget Molly Weasley.

She knows that the Daily Profit writes lies and yet she found it very easy to believe that Hermione was cheating on Harry with Krum. Harry and Hermione had been in her home / hung out with her family. She had plenty of time to observe them. They acted in ways that made her believe they were a 'couple.'

cookiemonster

Yes, we H/Hr folks have noticed this for a long time! Are these supposed to be anvils or what??

I swear, how can JKR write this kind of stuff and then act like we are supposed to just believe they are platonic? And even if they are now, other characters have seen the chemistry and caring between them. If Harry and Hermione don't realize what they mean to each other yet...they will. The truth is out there and it's going to hit them right between the eyes!

I hope in Book 7.

I agree with hammergal04. How does JKR only believe their feelings can be platonic after all she wrote about them? It doesn't make any sense.

Ooh, I missed this. I remember when Molly seemed like she was deliberately snubbing Hermione and Harry trying to do something about it because he saw how it was hurting her. But I didn't catch that it was because Molly thought Hermione was cheating on Harry? Could someone post the relevant quote here please?

Mmmm I didn't even catch that one but you are right. Very interesting.

I believe it was in GoF when Mrs. Weasley sent them Easter Eggs after an article came out in Witch Weekly accusing Hermione of playing with Harry's affections. Hermione's egg was "smaller than a chicken egg". She asked Ron if his mother read Witch Weekly and he said yes. "Hermione looked sadly at her tiny egg". Yeah, Mrs. Weasley believed it and was snubbing Hermione.

It wasn't GoF it was OoTP that this happend I think. Although I could be wrong. I wish I had my OoTP with me!!

No, it was in GoF. I got out my book and checked before I posted. It was Chapter 28, page 549, US edition. Hermione was getting Howlers and hate mail over that article.

Also, don't forget Nevill in COS (movie, not book..) where Hermione comes back from being petrified, and deliberatly says "Harry, it's Hermione," even though Ron is sitting right next to him (harry).

To add something else about what Prof. McGonagall supspects about H/Hr,I find it interesting that she mentions to Harry that he listens to Hermione Granger's advice. This sentence makes me think that Hermione and Prof McGonagall may have had some conversations about Harry off-page during OOTP and McGonagall was glad that Harry restated what Hermione must have told her during their talk. If McGonagall could trust to give Hermione a time-turner and she wasn't supposed to have one,then I can bet a fortune in Gringotts that Hermione may have given McGonagall the impression that her feelings for Harry are more than a friend.

That part was so sad.
I liked that Harry noticed she felt badly, though.

I completely agree with everyone here. I mean...it just seems logical.

Victor wasn't jealous of Ron, now, was he? And oh, yeah...I totally forgot that Ginny was the reason Cho and Harry broke up. And Rita really enjoyed writing Articles on Ron/Hermione and how Harry loved Ginny...NOT

Yes, quite sad! What makes it worse is that Mrs. Weasley argues with Amos about how Rita Skeeter is always causing trouble. Then she follows that up with giving Hermione the cold shoulder in person. She only warms up again when Harry states that Hermione is not his girlfriend.

Thank you all for writing those great posts, I thought that there were less characters to suspect HHr but now you wonderful people remind me of the rest! LOL it makes me find this even more interesting! Jk is up to something.. pumpkin pie anyone?

HHr!!

here is my take on this they are going for what is right and not easy like the R/Hr shipper like to believe with their ship. I would like some pumpkin pie please.

HI.I think that Draco says something like "I see I touched a nerve"in OotP.
Sorry for gramma im German.

As much as I'd like to believe these are hints of H/Hr, the pessimistic side of me tells me that JKR is using these scenes to tell us that H/Hr won't happen. It's like we Harmonians are the people who suspect something's going on, but in reality they're only platonic friends... ><

Here's a question for you. Ron has 5 brothers and a sister, plus 2 parents. Supposedly Ron has had a crush on Hermione (from Harry's point of view) for several years). If that's true, how come no one in Ron's family has ever teased him about his crush? Nor has any of them ever teased Hermione about her supposed crush on Ron? How come NOBODY but Harry seems to think that Ron and Hermione are an item? You'd think that members of Ron's family, who know him best, would get vibes from him about who he fancies. It was obvious that he fancied Fleur and Madame Rosmerta and his siblings continue to tease him about both of them. But no one in his family has ever teased him about Hermione. Is that merely to spare her feelings? What about if she's not around? That would be the perfect time for them to say something but none of them ever has...not even the twins or Ginny...

Well, if Ron really does have a thing for Hermione (which I don't believe) his family is so dense they haven't picked up on it at all...

Perfect! I was thinking that myself. Especially since Fred and George love to tease Ron about anything they can think of, I find it hard to believe that they'd lay off Ron when it comes to Hermione. Ginny, I can sort of understand if she's in an unspoken competition for Harry just because she'd probably stay away from the topic altogether. On the other hand, Ginny might have even more reason to tease Ron in front of Hermione for the express purpose of maybe embarrassing Hermione into not going after Harry or something.

Yeah, how come Ginny has never said anything to Ron about Hermione, especially in front of Harry? You would think she would. I'm telling you guys, there is too much going on in all the books about Harry and Hermione's relationship especially the suspicions of all the usual suspects we have discussed. I find it hard to believe that Ron's family wouldn't have said something by now about Ron liking Hermione as more than a friend. And I'm positive that with Ginny's change of attitude especially in HBP, she would have teased Ron by now. It's only Harry's perception that something is going on and I think he's got it wrong!

Stay tuned...

Well, the thing is Ron himself hasn't even picked up on the fact that he might like Hermione, so it's not obvious at all. Plus, the rest of the family wasn't there whenever there are R/Hr hints, like when he was going through his jealous rant about Hermone and Krum...

But then again, who knows?

Yeah, who knows. But again, Fred and George, and Ginny, have had the chance to observe Ron around Hermione at school. I think that if Ron ever mentioned anything nice about Hermione to his siblings, they'd be all over him about it. If they got a hint that he was looking at her like a lovestruck calf, they'd call him on it. I'm from a big family too, and believe me, among me and my sisters, if we knew one of us had a crush on a boy, well, the crusher heard a LOT about it. But no one ever seems to call Ron on his supposed crush. If Ron doesn't realize he feels that way about Hermione after SIX YEARS then he's not very bright, especially if at least 3 of those years supposedly involved Unresolved Se*xual Tension.

My vote is for Ron not really crushing on Hermione EVER, but she thinks so (at least at some point) and so does Harry, who NEVER asks his friends what's going on between them. If anyone's a dunderhead here, it's Harry.

Just adding to this - I don't have a big family but I do have siblings and friends with siblings. If there were actions that could be interpreted as UST, siblings would be all over the teasing. I've had siblings and friends tease me about someone I hated - no UST from my end at all and yet they would persist. Actually, the more I protested, the more they teased. So the lack of teasing from Fred and George feels especially telling, UST actions or no. I have to agree that Harry is probably just misinterpreting things. And isn't that a classic plot piece to create conflict? I see it all the time in movies and stories. People who are close get all worked up and upset over a misunderstanding when they could just ask each other what was up - but then we wouldn't have a story if they did just ask.

[emphasis mine] yeah! how come harry never asked his friends what's going on between them if he's been suspecting that there's something goin on between the 2?! i mean he could ask ron! but what's holding him back???? is he afraid to find out that there might be "something" between r/hr? remember during sprout's class in hbp when r/hr were talkin about slug's party. he was tryin to cover his mind from hearing them.... hmmmm

I think by now Ron's got to know his own feelings on Hermione. The reason I say that is because Rowling has given him ample opportunity through situations in HP to do so. Situations and opportunity that have not been afforded to Harry.

The Yule Brawl was a PERFECT opportunity for Ron to realize feelings for Hermione. After all, Ron thinks she "completely missed the point" with what he was saying, which seems to mean that he was being truthful with what he was saying about thinking that Krum was using Hermione to get info on Harry, and that she was "fraternizing with the enemy".

When Hermione "missed" his point, what point then could Ron have thought that she felt he was making, since she didn't take what he said to her about Krum at face value?

either...

A) that Hermione thought that Ron was jealous

or

B ) that Ron was jealous that she got a date and he didn't.

Wouldn't this, then, give Ron opportunity to discover what he TRULY feels for Hermione, given that he knows she missed his true point, and must have pondered to himself about what she had THOUGHT that he meant?

And.....

Hermione has mentioned Krum for a while now, with Ron having reactions to it. Shouldn't Ron have had opportunity to think about what his reactions to Hermione/Krum really meant by now?

And...

Hermione and McLaggen, Ron hearing that Hermione/Krum probably snogged, etc.

And why did Ron turn to LAVENDER instead of Hermione when wanting snogging experience? If he loved Hermione, couldn't he then have "had his cake and eaten it too" if he got with Hermione and snogged her? Getting the girl he wants and snogging experience all in one go would be the cherry on his sundae.

So I believe Ron has been put in ample situations and has been allowed in those situations to consider who Hermione is to him... therefore if he's not with Hermione now, I don't believe he ever will be, because obviously he doesn't view her romantically.

So far, what I see is that, indeed, he does not view her romantically. He is bewildered that Harry even thought they were going on a date in HBP! He says "just as FRIENDS, never promised her anything, can't complain, free agent".................. none of this points to romantic feelings for Hermione, and again, Rowling has chosen to put him in enough "matters of the heart" type situations with Hermione, and has given him enough opportunity to think about it, that if he truly felt romantically about Hermione he would know about it by now and would have made his move.

Cheers, Bama



Because if she had Harry actually ASK Hermione or Ron if they felt romantically about one another, the jig would be up, and we would know waaaay before the surprise ending that Ron and Hermione never felt that way about one another.

It's all a big red-herring. She's keeping our information limited to what Harry thinks he knows, without ever confirming it. So every situation between Ron and Hermione looks more and more "romantic" to Harry, and therefore, to the reader.

I imagine a look of surprised shock on Ron's and Hermione's faces, dissolving into laughter when they finally find out what Harry's thought about them all along.

And I imagine an even BIGGER look of shock on Harry's face when he finds out the truth... along with that look of shock all the HeronChocos will be wearing. But I suppose that's what they get for believing in Harry's assumptions with no proof to back them up, and what they get for ignoring the fact that Ron and Hermione have had ample opportunity concerning situations involving matters of the heart to figure this thing about between them since GoF, and since then have done NOTHING to come together romantically.... EITHER ONE OF THEM.

Cheers, Bama

If the R/Hr's are correct in saying that the last three books, at LEAST, have included obvious hints and enormous amounts of unresoloved sexual tension, then I would say that he has to know.

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BTW, it's completely ridiculous that after being friends with Ron for six years, he's never discussed girls with him once, while he has with Hermione.

Edit; I get what you're saying, Bama, just had to point it out, haha.

Here is what has been bothering me about the whole Weasley family not teasing Ron thing. Well, actually, just the fact that no one in the family teases Ron bothers me but that is not my point.

When the crew visits WWW for the first time, Fred and George rag Ginny about the number of boyfriends she has accumulated (5 currently I think they said, don't have my book on me). Ginny seemed to know where that info got to F&G from. She was not too happy with Ron.

Wasn't that a perfect opportunity to toss out a Ron lurves Hermy quote, or a nice little "Ron and Hermione sitting in a tree...".

Why did she not take the opportunity to rag him about liking Hermione? It seems to be a very Ginny thing to do. I can totally picture it.

Maybe its just me.

It doesn't seem, IMO at least, that Ginny even acknowledges an R/Hr romantic relationship at all.

Lunalumos, that is my point exactly. The one person in the family that most likely knows anything about Ron's love life, doesn't seem to know anything about it.

I never realized that I might have something in common with Ginny, she must have seen the anvils as red herrings too.

Okay, this is coming from a girl who has had way too little sleep this weekend, and probably too much alcohol as well.....

So keep in mind this is just a crazy scenario my brain concocted from reading your post and is utter nonsense!!

Wouldn't it be hilarious if ages ago Hermione has confessed to Ron how she felt about Harry, and so they teamed up to try and make Harry "see" her as someone to be romantically interested in, and to see if he would get jealous if they started to fake liking each other?

I started adding more to this whacked-out theory just then but deleted it when I realised I'd be digging myself into a deep pit of illogical rambling and you'd all have me committed. Lol

well yes, we are delusional after all....so this whacked out theory of yours actually makes perfect sense

Interestingly, it was their commitment to their "platonic" friends that spelled the doom for those relationships before they even started.



If Ron truly is attracted to Hermione, it would make perfect sense to be jealous of R/Hr.



Rita Skeeter is sort of like Rowling in an interview. A bunch of misleading statements with a few nuggets of truth.



this doesn't seem like much, but if you couple this with the fact that Mcgonagall had no intention of bringing Ron, this becomes quite a bit more interesting.



If there was nothing to be suspicious about, there would have no suspicion to begin with.



Here's the interesting thing. In the article before the first task, Harry and Hermione are romantically linked, and Harry has no issues with this. It isn't until the "scarlet woman" article that Harry started to deny any romantic attachement with Hermione. Harry was simply doing this to preserve Hermione's honor.



This makes sense. For Mcgonagall to know what Hermione said, she would have to be told that information. I don't think that was a lucky guess on Mcgonagall's part.



Yes, it was in OotP. This was on the train ride to Hogwarts. Draco said "How does it feel to be second best to Weasley?" and Harry reacted angrily. that's when Draco said "I see I touched a nerve", and Hermione starts soothing him.



I've actually heard this argument in a slightly different way. In essence, the reason these hints are to satirize the idea of friends becoming lovers. The problem with this argument is that ti be consistent, every friends become lovers relationship has to be "painted with the same brush", so to speak, including R/Hr.



This is a point that has been argued to death. Given Ron's inability to lie or hide his feelings, the natural consequence would be that somebody would catch on.



Fred, George and Ginny were at the Yule Ball, remember? So this clearly proves that nothing's going on. Neither of the twins seem to tease Ron about this, so they clearly don't see it as attraction..

That's something I haven't thought about before in regards to the Yule Brawl.It mentions that R/Hr were arguing so loudly,people were starting to stare at them. If R/Hr were arguing loudly enough for everyone in the vicinity to hear them,you would think that either the twins or Ginny would have overheard the fight. Why this didn't come up in either OOTP or HBP is a mystery to me. Ginny would have had another good throwback to give at Ron when they were fighting in the corridor,when he and Harry saw her with Dean. I'm surprised she didn't "out" his supposed feelings for Hermione because then that would have been the opportune time to reveal whether or not Ron likes Hermione. With one book to go,I wonder will anybody pick up on the UST that R/Hr suppossedly has and will ask either of them about it.

Was Ron jealous of the fact that Hermione appeared to him to be doing something with Harry, or just of the fact that the two of them were doing something together which didn't involve him, and they hadn't told him they were going to? In other words he felt like he was being left out of the Trio.

That must be at least as valid as the commonly held view that he didn't want Harry getting too close to Hermione because he wanted her for himself.

I agree it's rather interesting that scene.. does anyone have a quote for that scene?

Definitely not trying to bring up any negativity here since I LOVE most of the posts, particularly the one's explaining that, curiously enough, Fred, George OR Ginny don't seem to have caught on to Ron's supposed "obvious" feelings for Hermione. Anyway, but didn't Ginny's comment in the corridor in HBP seem kind of weird? If she hasn't picked up on Ron's feelings for Hermione, why did she bring up Hermione snogging Krum? At least if I remember correctly she did... but I could be wrong... I haven't read HBP in over a year, and when I did I was disgusted with the Super!Ginny-ness to pay much attention to a lot of the scenes.

Actually, I believe it was Hermione who reacted angrily to that "second best" statement, which makes this scene even more interesting because if I remember correctly Draco directed his "touched a nerve" comment to Harry, even though it was Hermione who reacted.

The whole scene tells me automatically that Hermione doesn't want Harry to think that anyone thinks he's second best to Ron. Least of all her...

This bit also suggests that Draco may suspect deeper feelings on Hermione's part from her reaction. He would have been expecting a reaction from Harry, or perhaps Ron as he was the other person included in the question.

When Ginny did that I got the impression that she was saying something more to the effect of "See even Gryffindor's resident nerd girl has more experience in kissing than you do" rather than what you appear to be interpreting as "Your big crush has kissed someone else"

Anyway she also brought up that Harry had kissed someone aswell, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't think Ron has a crush on Harry (though it's possible he is more fanciable than ever) Honestly I think she was really saying everyone but you has kissed someone... even Gryffindor's resident nerd girl... (BTW I don't think Hermione is a nerd girl I love her to death, but I think it's a strong possibility that Ginny see's her that way)

OOTP pg 175 - 176
'Tell me, how does it feel being second best to Weasley, Potter?' he asked
'Shut up, Malfoy,' said Hermione sharply.
'I seem to have touched a nerve,' said Malfoy, smirking. 'Well, just watch yourself, Potter, because I'll be dogging your footsteps in case you get our of line.'
'Get out!' said Hermione, standing up.
Sniggering, Malfoy gave Harry a last malicious look and departed with Crabbe and Goyle lumbering along in his wake. Hermione slammed the compartment door behind them and turned to look at Harry, who knew at once that she, like him, had registered what Malfoy had said and been just as unnerved by it.
'Chuck us another Frog,' said Ron, who had clearly noticed nothing.

This is such a brilliant paragraph on soooo many levels.

1. Hermione gets angry that Malfoy has called Harry second best to Ron
2. It's another example of Harry and Hermione's brilliant ability to know what each other is thinking
3. It's yet another example of that love interupted buisness... H/Hr have a moment and it's overshadowed by something else, in this case the reference to Sirius
4. Ron as usual is completely clueless

This paragraph is an awesome example of the calibre of JKR's writing and surely on the strength of this we really know that it won't end OBHWF

Or as JKR says in the IOS, this is how she makes Ron realize that all of his friends are more experienced than he is. That he is lagging behind his two friends. And since Ron is of the competitive type...

I don't think Hermione actually snogged Krum, maybe a kiss, but not a snog. It just doesn't fit with what Hermione says. I think Ginny was making it out probably more than it actually was.

~Salamon2

She didn't only bring up Hermione snogging Krum... she brought up Harry snogging Cho, then Hermione snogging Krum as a way to show Ron that he was the only one who didn't have any experience.

(paraphrasing) "It's only you who thinks there's anything wrong with it! Harry's snogged Cho Chang, and Hermione's snogged Victor Krum... the closest thing you've gotten to a kiss is from our Aunt Muriel!"

(Geez I might have totally butchered that)

But my point is that if Ginny had only brought up Hermione and Krum, then yes, we could look at that as her trying to get back at Ron specifically by mentioning Hermione and Krum, which would mean she were able to get back at him with Hr/K because Ron likes Hermione.

But that's not what Ginny did. She mentioned Ron's TWO best friends as having snogging experience where Ron has none... not just Hermione and Krum.

The reason Ron seems only to be upset over Hermione/Krum is because Ron already knew Harry had snogged Cho, but with Hermione, Ron at least thought he and Hermione were on the same level of experience... so in Ron's mind, though Harry had gotten snogging "experience", neither Ron and Hermione had.

Now that notion has been shot down for Ron. Now Ron knows that Hermione's been snogged too.

It's just as Rowling said in an interview:

"Basically it dawns on Ron that Harry's had some action, Hermione's had some action, and he's never gotten close!"

So that was Ron's problem. It wasn't that Hermione snogged Krum specifically, it was that now Ron's the ONLY one out of the trio who hasn't snogged anyone (he'd already known about Harry/Cho, so no reason to bring that up), and that must have made him feel like a big loser.

Cheers, Bama

I agree with that. And I could be wrong,but I think that's why Ron decided to grab someone and didn't care who to start practicing snogging on. I guess Lavender fit the description of a snogging partner,as an all flash-no substance relationship. Ginny may not have known whether Ron has a crush on Hermione or not,but she touched a very sensitive nerve that he's the only one in the gang who hasn't been kissed. I'm inclined to believe what some have said that Ginny may have embelished her statements. Since this is through Harry's POV we don't know (and Hermione's never mentioned it), whether Hermione kissed Krum or he kissed her. We do know from OOTP that Cho approached Harry under the mistletoe and he said he wouldn't have because she was crying and next thing he knew she kissed him. I would have thought that if Rowling was really trying to sell OBHWF in Book 6,that would have been the perfect opportunity for Ron to want to start a romantic relationship with Hermione as Harry does with Ron's sister. Why drag this out for one more book is anybody's guess. I'm sure we'll (hopefully) get some answers next year when the last book does come out,as to who really ends up with whom.

Or indeed whether there was a kiss at all - Harry only thinks there was.

I've often wondered that myself... surely if they'd kissed (Hr/K) then his leaving to go back to Bulgaria would surely have been a much bigger deal to her... If he was her first kiss, and they parted amicably, then why wasn't she more upset to see him go?

Personally I like the theory that Hermione has never been kissed...

Ohhhh okay, thanks for clearing that up.

I haven't read HBP in a long time so I honestly didn't remember Ginny bringing up Harry and Cho as well. Since that's the case then it's definitely suspicious as to why Harry seems to be the only one noticing the so-called "obvious anvil-filled" brewing romance going on between Ron and Hermione, while no one else does; namely the Weasley's. I guess Harry really DOES have it all wrong.




Personally, I think Hermione has been. If I remember correctly from HBP (and I probably don't since I haven't read it in over a year, lol) it was hinted at that Hermione kissed McLaggen wasn't it?

Hermione said she escaped from McLaggen under the misletoe (s?) and Harry noticed she looked like she'd been wrestling with Devils Snare... so McGlaggen definatly tried to kiss Hermione and she ran away from him... so we don't know if he actually did kiss her or whether he only tried to...

Personally I think it's the latter.

I don't think Hermione has kissed (or been kissed by) either Krum or McLaggen. The Krum non-kiss is IMO another example of Harry drawing the wrong conclusion when it comes to his No 1 girl's love life, while the McLaggen incident seems to have been a pretty unpleasant one for Hermione, and I think her use of the word "escaped" just about sums it up - McLaggen came across right from the word go as a pretty loathsome character, and the fact that Harry had pi**ed him off by not giving in to his demands for a place on the Quidditch team just made it worse. McLaggen is clearly one of the many who are jealous of Harry; I think he (McLaggen) used Hermione simply to get back at Harry and asked her to Slughorn's party just so he could stop Harry doing so and in the process hurt them both. He might have suspected that Hermione had something to do with the outcome of the Quidditch trial, but he doesn't seem quick-witted enough to work that out despite being a Gryffindor.

In any case it looks to me as if his best way of getting revenge on Harry was to take Hermione for himself - so obviously he's another one who sees a special bond between Harry and Hermione. That must just be about everyone in the school now - oh, except two...

I dread to think what McLaggen would have done to Hermione if he'd had the chance to.

I think this needs pointing out.

Quote from GOF describing Rita Skeeters article of the opening of the TWT

"the article (continuing on pages two, six, and seven) had been all about Harry, the names of the Beauxbatons and Durmstrang champions (misspelled) had been squashed into the last line of the article, and Cedric hadn't been mentioned at all."

Given this, I doubt Viktor Krum would have any faith at all on Rita Skeeters accuracy in her reporting, given that she couldn't even spell his name right, so I bet his suspicions concerning Harry and Hermione was based squarely on his own personal experience with the two.

I agree... besides the glaring fact that we don't have any evidence that Krum picked up the Daily Prophet and read it while at Hogwarts.

Number one: He is from a school in Bulgaria... he's most likely interested in the paper he gets at his own school, not one in a foreign country.

Number two: The book never suggests that he's even glanced that the Daily Prophet, and he never mentions the paper at all. It seems if he had seen it and read it, he most certainly would mention it when confronting Harry about whether or not he and Hermione have feelings for one another, since Rita had been writing articles about how Hermione was two timing Harry WITH KRUM.

Since the paper states that Hermione is Harry's love, and that she's two timing him with Krum, there was no reason for Krum to ask Harry what was between him and Hermione, since Krum would have already "known" from the paper that Hermione was ALREADY Harry's girlfriend, but was two timing him with Krum.

What Krum mentions for evidence behind what he believes is H/Hr, is that Hermione talks about Harry a LOT.... no mention of the Prophet or anything it had to say about Hermione and Harry already being an item.

It seems to me that that WOULD have come up, had Krum read it.

Cheers, Bama

Also the fact is that love triangle article was written in Witch Weekly, not the Daily Prophet. This is not the movie where Harry's love life makes front page of the prophet, but rather the leading article of social gossips.

~Salamon2