What if Tom could come back, as he was at age sixteen? Now that would be interesting. My entire scenario depends on Ginny being in a certain frame of mind, a not exactly certain, emotionally unstable. I also think that someone in this forum brought up the idea that maybe something was left with Ginny, just as something was left with Harry. Potter gets the unnatural powers and Ginny is left with something a little less desirable- a part of Tom. What if Tom can keep coming back in her mind, able to give small suggestions here and there.

Okay EvilRyokoJesse, say she never hates or loves the DT, she is neutral about them. She's much more drawn to Draco, he's like her. The CoS makes people wary around her, but Draco understands this. One day in the library, Draco notices her. She's sitting in his usual chair. Imagine the out rage. it HIS chair, not the weasel's. But for some reason he seems drawn to her in a strange way. He tells her to get off his chair or else he'll sit on her. She says go ahead and do it. So he does. She asks if he's comfortable.

In the mean time, he's not looking at her eyes, but rather at her lips. he'd been noticing these a lot more lately. So he says no, not yet, reaches up and decides to kiss her. He expects her to push him away, spit a few times for good measure, but none of that happens. she's as in to it as he is.

and they're together. But sometime later, they've been together for a while, and Tom comes back into her head, telling her things. She's not insane. its actually Tom, who was not, in fact, killed with the diary. Now he finds a means to return, disgusted with what he becomes in the future. What if somehow he materializes through Ginny? Ginny's not 'in love' with Tom, perse, but she is a part of him, just as he is a part of her. My question to you all is what would Draco do? I was just thinking about that. I get off topic alot.

That would be interesting... would he go all out for his love or his hatred? i guess its a classic war between good and evil, love and hatered. But you brought up some good points Jesse. When i said Ron was being an ***hole, i mean like an older brother. Even though they shouldn't, the act like them sometimes. But this is becoming an epic.

I think G/T would work if somehow Ginny ended up dead. Tom, the way she remembers him, is dead, so if she is dead, maybe she can somehow join him????

Unknown Street Kid

I'd thought about that too! People in another topic (or was it this one? I'm getting confused...) were talking about how if D or G died they would keep shipping D/G and how fanfiction would make them possible anyways. But thinking about Tom makes that more complex. If G or D die after Voldmort, then maybe Ginny will see Tom again in death......but that would mean the land of the dead theory or something like in the Holy Trilogy would have to happen. *shrugs* I dont know, I'm so intent on D/G that I wouldnt want to share her between Tom and Draco, but the love triangle as you mentioned sounds nifty.

~Ryoko~

Again, Unknown, your thinking is masterful.


~Faith~

wow! thank you much, faith! I'm writing a fic right now, i'm kind of using this to work through some parts that i'm stuck at. In my last post, i pretty much described my entire story.

You bring up a good point here, Jesse. Here, i'm going to steer away from all ships right now and its going to get angsty. Think about this. Ginny does not turn evil. But Tom doesn't care. he isn't set out to make her evil.

What does Voldemort do? He destroys. The only difference between Voldemort and Riddle is a few years. What if the entire purpose of the diary was to give something to Ginny that would eventually destroy her? I think that it has been stated more than enough that Rowling hasn't spent any time with Ginny. This has led us all to believe that Harry will be the ONLY ONE that will defeat Voldemort, right?

But what if its Ginny who is truly the one that can destroy Voldemort, and to throw this attack off, he gets Lucius to give the diary to the girl. Maybe there was another prophecy in the department of mysteries that voldemort did get his hands on, this one involving the weasley girl?

Wouldn't it be cool if the only way for Ginny to stop Tom would lie in Draco Malfoy?

hmm.... yeah. i think i may write a fic in which this happens. oh welsies.

Hey, can anyone give me a hand with this? i noticed below some of your avatars you have sayings or little phrases. can anyone let me know how to get that on mine?

That completely summed up what I have been thinking about. I suddenly want to read more and more fics with D/G/T love triangles, and [as i have mentioned a few times before] am writing one myself. Go check it out! [Our Little Secret- on FFN]

I never though I would ship either Draco or Ginny with someone else but the appeal of Ginny/Tom is racking at my brain. But I think I hold firm to the idea that Ginny will be brought over to the dark side through Tom, but evetually fall for Draco. Because I can not imagine Ginny living that long if she is paired with Tom... and I don't want her dying any time soon.

But if Tom Riddle was able to come back as his sixteen year old self in the flesh, and join up with Ginny...and she could maybe convince him that what he turns into someday is a hideous monster... maybe she could convinve him to stop himself before it happens.

I just got a great idea. Say Ginny was romantically involved with Tom, and doing everything in her power to make him stop his future self.... as a sixteen year old he doesn't know how to do that and ends up commiting suicide, even though it seems way OOC with enough persuasion and a good author writing the fic it could happen.
Ginny is upset and seeks comfort in Draco? Voldemort still exsists, even though they thought that would kill him, but at least Tom is out of the way. There...wonderful love triangle and Ginny never really had to go evil... plus is ends up D/G so I dont have to feel bad about shipping G/T.

Any thoughts on my new theory?

Hahaha... at least you have a sense of humor, right? Also, I had a heck of a time firguring out how to change mine but someone finally told me... a long time ago.

Haha, masterful. I have a feeling that word will be brought up quite a bit for now on...

I've never met a girl named Alfred. O.o

I will join in the off topicness then too! MY favorite word is.... CROOKED

isn't it just cool?

ok, I'll be good and talk about D/G now. Wonderful D/G.

This was also mentioned. I am slightly torn on this. I see what you mean. I don't think she would do all those acts of her own accord, but perhaps some of them. The fact that she was eleven and Tom was her only friend is part of why I believe this. She was young and easily influenced by someone older. I see no reason why she wouldn't do as Tom asked. As children when our parents tell us something to do something we do as they say (most of the time -.-; )without questioning their reasons. Perhaps she did a few of the things on her own and after a while she got scared that she would get in trouble or expelled and began to refuse, and that's when Tom began possessing her.

Yes, well off of that for a moment. Back to my little predictions/ramblings. My apologies if any of these have been brought up already.

One thing that caught my eye was the comments where Tom left something with Ginny, but if he had why didn't he use her when in the Department of Mysteries?

I think it could be true that he had left something with her that doesn't harm or affect her at all...yet. She doesn't even know it's there, and Voldemort is just waiting, biding his time. He wouldn't use her in the Department of Mysteries because she would be a last resort possibly. Maybe in the last book during the final battle Voldemort's chances of winning are slim to none, and so he decides it's time. Perhaps Tom placed a little of himself in her, and so she has been acting as his new 'diary' for the past few years. Voldemort then uses this to possess her once more, and I doubt Harry would attack Ginny, so Voldemort uses her against him.

My second thought on how she would willingly go to Voldemort.

Someone in her family is killed, maybe the mother, and not only that but it was Harry's fault. Maybe a death eater attacks and sends the killing curse at Harry, but he moves and it hits Mrs. Weasley, or she moves to save him. Something. Then he sort of comforts her, but then drops her again like every one seemed to do in CoS and this pushes her towards the edge. Then everyone starts comforting Harry because he is so grief stricken, or angry with himself because he didn't stop it and no one sees how hurt Ginny is despite obvious hints. Now while all this happens, the death eater has informed Voldey of his actions and has been watching the family and also tells him about Ginny. Voldemort uses this to his advantage and begins to plant thought in her mind that he is the only one who really cares about her, and that he promises things like she will never get hurt again, and that she can have what ever she wants...Things like that. So she fights at first, but because her family is still not paying attention to her in her mind, she gives in a joins him.

Last one.

Someone also posted that is Tom had done or left something with her Dumbledore would have seen it and done something. Also that Dumbledore isn't just worried about Harry but all the students.

I don't believe this. Dumbledore may be a wise old man, and he may care about all the students, but that doesn't mean he'd see that something was wrong with her. After everyone is sure she is fine they leave her alone. I can imagine her being one of those girls you see at school that is only noticed by a few friends and then forgotton by everyone else. Sure Dumbledore probably put thought into the matter, and maybe even watched her for a while, but when she seemed fine he decided it was okay and he focused back on Harry again.

That's all for my ramblings. I apologize if they made no sense, but I had to post. I apologize for wasting your time.

I am convinced that Tom Riddle and Voldemort, at this point, are two very different people. We don't even know if Voldemort was aware that he came back as his 16 year old self and opened the chamber...

In any case, Voldemort would not know the signifigance of Ginny unless Tom Riddle was to come back again. This is where time travel gets tricky. We don't know if Voldemort would remember going forward in time when he was 16 and opening the chamber, because at that time in his life he didn't know all the things that Tom Riddle knew. By preserving himself in the diary, he has almost formed himself as a new person...

In order to use Ginny again, that new preserved Tom Riddle would have to come back, and as it stands he's gone... lost in the destroted diary.

Make sense?

Basically I'm saying unless he can come back some way, that preserved form of Tom Riddle, Ginny should be safe.