Alright, H/Hr shippers are always being stereotyped for something. Sure, other shippers are being stereotyped too, but we're the ones who get the full blast of it. Anyway, what's the biggest stereotype that people usually associate with H/Hr shippers. Is the fact that most people consider all of us to be Weasley/Ron bashers or that we can't be real fans? Or anything else?

I think one of the biggest one is that they all take us for the "Hero gets the girl" people. I mean, I have no problem with the Hero getting the girl thing cause I actually like it, but, IF, let's say, Ron was the Hero, and still had the personality, I STILL wouldn't want him to be with Hermione.
Bottom line is, we sail on the HMS Pumpkin Pie because Hermione goes sooo much better with Harry, and not Ron. They argue/bicker waaaay too much for their own good.

but, that's just me.

H/H shippers...

* love HGTG
* hate OBHWF
* want Ron to be a Death Eater
* think Ginny is a tramp
* are insane, illiterate and not right in the head
.... apparently.

Now I don't do *any* of those. I don't like OBHWF, but I don't hate it. It's just too 'neat' for me.

I was on the FA forums yesterday (I go there half the time I'm not here) and in the "H/Hrs unite with Ron-lovers" thread one R/Hr said they have this huge stereotype of us hating Ron with a passion. She said most think that we all want Ron to become a DE or die. She also said most of our debates there bash Ron to the high heavens.

Well.. I rectified this little problem. I said that by no means do all H/Hr's hate Ron at all. That is simply ludicrous. *However*, HP is an international book, and sometimes certain characters don't sit well with you. I said yes, perhaps some H/Hr *do* ship the pair because they aren't fans of Ron. It's pretty normal. I also said that it doesn't give them the right to use their personal dislike of Ron in any debate. Which is true.

Last, I said that the FA debate thread is ridiculous as it is, and only represents like 2% of the shipping population.

The other stereotype.. which I dunno if this is one. That we all ignore JKR's quote's and evidence like it doesn't exist. But whatever!

I'm beginning to get a soft spot for H/R/H at the moment.... scary stuff. But fun

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insane, illiterate and not right in the head

Gah, I hate when people say things like that about others, me, well... I have almost been driven to the brink of insanity by the word platonic, illiterate eh? Well, seeing as *most* of the R/Hr shippers i've talked to talk like:

R U INSAIN, U R ILLITR8 4 LIKNG HAZ N HRM

I'm nt going to go on, that language gives me a headache, half of it I can't understand.

OMG U r aretRd dey r nva goin 2 get 2geva so *t shippn r/h cuz dey r da bomb n JKR sez dat ne1 hu lks h/h r wierd n shud nt be allowd 2 rEd da bux hahahaha!

(translation: Oh my God you are a retard; they are never going to get together so start shipping R/H because they are the bomb and JKR says that anyone who likes H/H are weird and should not be allowed to read the books)

I almost *wish* someone would send me something like that - it'd make my day!

Oh... if I ever got something like that, I would be *so* happy if I did. I could really let loose

They don't talk in text language do they??? Oh please say they don't. In fact I don't know why it's called text language because when I send I text I send it in standard English.

That's text language? *Shudders* If it's on the internet, why use text?

Our biggest stereotype has to be that we're all Ron-haters. I for one only hate Ron when he's being a bitch. Like when he goes into his "poor me" act, (because I KNOW FOR A FACT his life's no that bad) and when he's being a bitch about H/Hr in fan fics. That's it. Otherwise Ron's cool. but reading fan fics where he gets mad at Harry because Harry is with Hermione gets me into a right ranting state.

Lots of R/Hr shippers believe that H/Hr want Ron to die so H/Hr can get together. I don't want Ron to die, I like him! Just not with Hermione.

They say that we are in love with smut. NOT THE CASE !! Just because there may be a little more H/H smuts then R/hr smuts ( I don't really know because I will
never be able to swallow a R/hr smut ) doesn't mean that we are in love with the
stuff !

*gasp* That's right! *Some* do accuse of being too smut-obsessed. I completely forgot about that one.

*ahem* we've said before most H/Hr's are more mature, and can handle smut. Maybe R/Hr's are younger and accept what's at face value.

Yeah... that whole "Ron-bashing thing" isn't necassarily true for all of us. I don't *hate* Ron... I just don't particularly like him. He can be really mean (to Hermione especially) and he always moans about money... he thinks his life's so bad. Yeah, compare your's with Harry's, I'm sure your's will look really shitty (sorry, it was for lack of a better term)... But I must say that I think Rupert Grint is pretty hott. Yes, but anyways, I don't *hate* him, I'm just not an obsessed Ronfanatic.

I don't like him at all, but I don't bash him, I just don't use his name.

There is nothing wrong with Ron, but sometimes he can get annoying. He does complain about money to often. I mean, if you could chose lots of cash or a loving family which would you chose?

Over at SQ and on some R/Hr threads I toodle around on, the biggest stereotypes of H/Hr shippers are that us folks hate Ron, vilify him and consider him beneath contempt; that we don't like the Weasleys at all; that we are militant; and that we bash people in teenyspeak.

*blink*

I can't count the number of times I've told people I adore Ron and the Weasleys, and that I'm hardly militant; I love R/Hr and H/Hr/R just as much as H/Hr. And hardly any shipper worth listening to on any ship speaks teenyspeak. Bottom line is there's bashy nasty people on all ships, and lots of wonderful people on all ships. *sporks stereotypes*

I'm starting to think that some R/Hr shippers don't ever leave the SQ forums? They have very big stereotypes placed on us, and a very crazy dislike for us.

Where do H/Hr's speak in teenyspeak? Where do R/Hr's get all this "die Ron die" stuff? Does like one shipper go to a H/Hr site, and then carry on rumors back to the mothership of R/Hr's? Or is there some H/Hr forums out there where they speak in net speak and bash Ron all the time?

I know the SQ is very insular on occasion, although more of the R/Hr shippers bounce around everywhere. I would know.

I think they get the die-Ron-die things from places like ff.net and FA, which admittedly do have some very anti-Ron H/Hr fics, and from the occasional troll they occasionally get over there. I don't get that stereotyping at all and it kind of disturbs me. When I say I'm a H/Hr fan too over there, I get a *blink*.

I think a lot of people who stereotype H/Hr or R/Hr get it from the Deathmarch threads over at FA, which should not be used as a yardstick for anything. Blecho. I don't like those things.

I've had quite a few posts regarding my dislike for Ron's sometimes annoying attitude but I never did say that I hate him and I want him dead... well maybe sometimes I have brief sudden urges of poking him in the eye or something.

I sometimes visit SQ and well, not everyone label/stereotype us, it just seems to me that there are more SQers that generally conclude that since we ship H/Hr, we:

(1) Do not understand that bickering is part of a lovely and romantic relationship.

(2) We have a general dislike to the Weasley Clan (We want Ron dead, we hate the concept of OBHWF, we see Ginny as a slut... do we have anything against the twin? Nope... not that I can think of...)

(3) We are H/Hr smut-fic addicts (oh, but well, I do not deny this... hehehe)

(4) We do not listen to JK. How many times is she going to repeat that Harry and Hermione have a very pla... (ok, we all know the magic word there...)

(5) And we most probably read the book the wrong way because: "Harry n Hermione wil nvr, evr, b 2geder!"

hehe.. I really never thought that we had more smut than them? That really surprises me, I thought every ship had it's smut. *snickers* shows how much I know! I've also never come across a shipper with netspeak that badly. I wish I would, it would lift my spirits very much!

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I think a lot of people who stereotype H/Hr or R/Hr get it from the Deathmarch threads over at FA

What are the Deathmarch threads? I'm pretty active at FA, but I don't know what that is... I only really see mean stuff at the trio forums. Just so you guys know, "Can't stand H/Hr" is *alot* more popular than "Can't stand R/Hr." If you read through their threads, it's complaint after complaint. I don't know if they intend this, but it makes me feel like they don't want to unite shippers at all. Those threads promote divided groups.

Hmm.. maybe I'll look for some good posts from there, to put here!

omg u dont like netspeek ur soooo mean!!!11

Ewwww. Must scrub brain.

The Deathmarch was (is?) the Pumpkin Pie/Good Ship debate thread, although it usually turned into a horrible, nasty mud-slinging brawl. I avoid all incarnations like the plague. And I really don't like the "Can't Stand" threads either. FA shipper debates are almost always really vindinctive and nasty, which is why I almost never debate anything at all there. People can get really petty.

Dude. What's so bad about smut? I love smut.

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What are the Deathmarch threads? I'm pretty active at FA, but I don't know what that is...

The Deathmarch threads on FA are the R/Hr vs. H/Hr debate threads. Hope that helps!

Oh! Thanks for that, I never knew the DT had another name! Yes, I avoid that place like the plague, and slap my hands whenever they want to post something.

There are certain R/Hr's *and* H/Hr's that drive me up the freakin wall there! They pick each other apart like vultures.

And I *definately* do not have a thing against smut!

I wouldn't touch the DT with a ten-foot pole. Too vicious and nasty...although some shippers do appear to make some good points.

what who we, want *** killed?

*snickers*

muahahahaha

Just one thing Tom, not mentioning their name is now apparently a form of character bashing (just thought i'd say it)

me character bashing? what would make you think that? hehehehehe must kill the fat one, aka. ***. =)

*laughs so very hard* If only Dani were here to back that up, she really wants to as well... Oh well, I hope that this happens in the 6th book.

lez c...h/hr shippaz r:
*stupd
*ignerent
*ron hatas
*slut!ginny luvrs
*draco luvrs
*2 dum 2 c the obvius...that r + hr blong 2gether
*smut obsesd
*obhwf hatas
*not rite n da hed

OK,
#1. I am NOT stupid. I am an all-honors student!
#2. I am NOT ignorant.
#3. I only hate Ron SOMETIMES!
#4. I do NOT think Ginny is a ####.
#5. I do NOT love Canon!Draco. Just Snarky!Draco. He will never take Ron's place.
#6. I am NOT about the obvious. Just sub-text obsessed. And Ron and Hermione do not belong together.
#7. I am NOT obsessed with smut.
#8. I HATE OBHWF!!!
#9. I am perfectly fine in the head, thank you very much. Just a little crazy.
#10. I can spell. Sometimes.

Of course, not ALL R/Hr shippers are like that, just some.

Oh, I gotta do that again!!!

Well, most of the ones I know are already posted. Basically, they believe us Ron-haters, smut-obessed, too ignorant to see the obvious, and too stubborn not to listen to JKR.
And yeah, they really HAVE NO SPELLING, GRAMMAR, OR HEADS!!
Sorry, got a little carried away...

QUOTE (bRiTtMiZiT @ Jul 17 2003, 09:33 PM)

lez c...h/hr shippaz r: *stupd *ignerent *ron hatas *slut!ginny luvrs *draco luvrs *2 dum 2 c the obvius...that r + hr blong 2gether *smut obsesd *obhwf hatas *not rite n da hed

I love it....

1. I have 4 A-levels all at A or B grade. I'm at one of the top ten universities in the UK. I speak 3 languages. Stupid? Nah, not me.
2. A-level in Eng. Lit at grade A, Theology undergraduate, could read before I went to school. Have read HP books 1-4 in French, and am planning to buy the Latin version of PS for my SO when I get hold of a copy.
3. I don't particularly like him all the time, but I'd be devastated if something were to happen to him... I think he brings a lot to the trio. But he bugs me something rotten sometimes.
4. Slut!Ginny lover? Er, does that mean I like her or I don't? I don't like her, though I'd be sad to see her be killed off. I think she's trying to be Ron in drag. So yes, I'm a slut!Ginny lover. Your problem?
5. *sigh* Draco has the most enormous amount of potential I have ever seen in a literary character. I find him fascinating. I'm always desperate in the books to see what makes Draco tick. As told in so many fics he has potential to be SO much more than a 2d rival. So, I quite like Draco in a literary way. My problem, not yours.
6. Refer to points 1 and 2. And I famously started out as a Good Shipper. And then I learnt the art of digging under a text to see the thematic undercurrents. And my viewpoint changed wildly.
7. Smut obsessed? Nah, not this lass. In fact I really hate it unless it's done *well* and isn't the main point of the fic, cf. Lori's PoU series.
8. Yeah I hate OBHWF. I think it's an insult to JKR's strive to maintain realism in a world that is fantastical. It's neat, it's sappy, it's unnecessary (Harry and Hermione are already considered family)... it's just a copout. I'm sorry, but I'm a FITD girl, and unless JKR writes different I'm not changing that.
9. I'm not justifying myself to someone who hasn't grasped the basic rules of English grammar and spelling.

Hee hee! Sorry, felt the need to be sarcastic at them... am genuinely not trying to toot my own horn, but given my academic background I take serious umbrage (yay! such a great pun) with anyone who dares to suggest that my ship reflects my supposed academic incapabilities. Grrr.

Oooh, goody:

1) I have 3 GCSE's 1 year early, one in English Literature, and one in English Language. The other is I.C.T. All I know I have passed, and I suspect I achieved an A or A* in all.

2) Speak 4 languages other then English, and did Latin up to the age of 14. (Languages - French, German, Italian, Spanish - GCSE Course)

3) No I don't like Ron, but I have reasons.

4) Ginny is annoying in my opinion. She doesn't thank Harry for saving her, but I don't love her or hate her. (Tisty: I think it's trying to say we love calling Ginny a slut)

5) Draco is a very well-written character, but not anywhere near my list of favourites.

6) Check points 1 & 2.

7) Not smut obsessed, don't know ehere that came from.

8) OBHWF - Well, I don't like it, but I must say, it couldn't work anyway, because if Ginny did marry Harry, she would be a Potter.

9) Not right in the head? Well, unless I have some mental disorder no one knows about, I don't think so.

I hate it when people are called stupid, whoever they are, without solid proof or in jest. As Tisty already said, there are very few, if any, academic incapabilities, and I find it a very big insult when people say that about me. I may not be as qualified or as old as others, but I don't see how that shows i'm not clever, or intellectual. As for being called stupid or wrong in the head by someone who can't type properly, and probably doesn't have a clue as to my academic capabilities, well, I can only pity them for blindly insulting something they know nothing about.

I see more often than not, R/Hr people trying to CONVERT us. Like it is a religon to get as many supports. Do ANY H/Hr Shippers try to CONVERT others? Not that I am aware of.

And also with R/Hr, they are usually against D/G coupling too. They say, "Oh, opposits attract" or "Duh, Ron belongs with Hermione because opposits attract" But isnt that the case with D/G coupling? I guess not... They say, "That just would never happen" or "Harry and Ginny have the whole Lily and James thing"

I am a strong supporter or H/Hr, and D/G. I do love Ron, and I would never want him to get killed off, but he just really does not belonge with Hermione. In the end, it would never work.

I also see that they think we base all of our belifes off of that little kiss Hermione gave Harry. This is, off course, not true as well. That was most likely a platonic kiss, after all the trio was what, 12? And I do see that All of Hr/R fics are based off of four main points.

That 1. Opposits Attract
2. That damn peck on the cheek
3. The perfume that Ron gave Hermione
4. How Ron was jealouse of Hermione at the yule ball.

So far, this relationship has been a one-sided thing...I think it will countiue that way as well. (Though if the stories do go downhill and Hr/R does become a real couple, Those fricking shippers will never let us live it down!)

Pori-Pori

What is OBHWF??

OBHWF: One Big Happy Weasley Family. It's the theory that Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny both occur at the same time. Although the theory is quite flawed, if you ask me. If Ginny was to marry Harry, she would take his last name, or surname. Thus, she would no longer be a Weasley. Hope that helps!

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3. The perfume that Ron gave Hermione

Harry's gift was way more thoughtful, a book. She loves to read. The purfume she referred to as 'unusual' because she didn't want another fight... she has had enough, that's obvious. I don't see how it's a sign of love, I see it as a sign of friendship and not wanting to hurt someone's feelings and have another fight.

A bit OT:

To some, if you compare the two gifts, the perfume is sort of more romantic compared to the book. But I agree on Harry being more perceptive on what Hermione would like best for a gift. And that would points for the boy. He isn't so oblivious as I thought he was.

I thought the perfume showed how much Ron is starting to get the courage to show Hermione how he's feeling. And how Hermione reacted to it wasn't anywhere near receptive of Ron's feelings.

Or it could be that I'm interpreting this as I am reading the book upside down and on the wrong light.

Hehehe.

{Gah! All my posts today have that blasted "hehehe" Argh}

We pretty much covered the basics on the sterotypes they have on us. But alas I'll go back to my childish banter...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me...Unless I'm an emotional freak."

Oh well, as for me being stupid. That would be a lie, I'm very much advanced in all my classes. Also I'm portrayed as intelligent. But you won't really care. Just another faceless figure. So no harm done, unless you know me.

And the OBHWF is really flawed.

Jee I hadn't been on this thread for a long time... A new one is that R/Hr shippers acuse us of pairing R/Lu just so H/Hr can be together... that may be true in some cases but it's not a general rule..

A few replys to this thread have read that ''Harry and Hermione shippers think Ginny is a slut. How the fudge did that come up.I have never been to found of Ginny but have recently warmed up to her (ootp) But tell me it's fanfiction because I have never read one line in the Harry Potter books that we could rub and beat to death till it screams slutty horny the whore Ginny.I have read fics that have hade a ginny slut but they were all AU so really thats changing the character but I have never read a fic (I think ) from a harry and Hermione shipper that hade a slutty Ginny so I must ask I they making some of this up ?


Sorry If some post have cleared this but I skipped

who the bloody hell thought of those really pathetic and i mean pathetic reasons? Us stereotypes.... in the shipping world we're supposedly the underdogs.... well, now they call us stereotypes....harhar..... talk about not looking in the mirror....

first of i'm not stupid... hell, i'm graduating from college this sem.....from an engineering course at that

second not ignorant..... and i can well damn spell right....

third.... i don't hate Ron he's just not my fave character and i've written some fics that totally made him a very understanding almost unrealistically nice friend.....

fourth.. slut ginny??? hmmm..... never thought of that..... well, is she?.... they should tell me....

fifth.... I don't love the canon Draco but the fact that he's a baddy and that a hero isn't good without a good antagonist other than Voldie is important to me.... let's just say i love to hate him.....

sixth.... the obvious answer is often times the wrong answer..... i mean have you ever taken abstract exams..... i bet a lot of them failed because the obvious was so evident when they chose it....

seventh.... smut obssesed..... hey... who writes fics of two people fighting head to head.... then smooches and gets it on after..... surely, i don't write like that.... I don't read stuffs like that either unless it's referred to me and is conciderably written well....

eigth.... harry and hermione are weasley extensions.. as in they're almost like family so i don't hate the idea..... because i'd love those two additional members together....

ninth.... i'm perfectly sane thank you very much..... annoyed but sane enough to see that those reasons or stereotypical assumptions as big crappy bull...... okay, i just cuss.... very very bad of me..... the people who made those comments are a disgrace to their ship......

oh yeah i'm gonna like replying to this.

I really hate all these stereotypes because, really, how many of them are actually true or can be applied to more than 1% of the H/Hrs? Ughhhh, I hate these, I don't consider myself a Ron hater. I love the Weasley family actually. Ughhh..

all i can say is talk about stereotypical... who wants a starwars type of shipping anyway? And it's not wrong to want the hero to get the girl.... specially if he deserves her......

The Biggest Stereotype..that I know is that I don't have ONE. I JUST THINK..THAT HARRY AND HERMIONE IS PERFECT....FOR EACH OTHER. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!

Well, I've seen a lot of stereotypes of H/Hr shippers...

*Obsessed with subtext that doesn't exist
*Think JKR is a pathalogical liar
*Absolutely hate Ron and want him to die
*Think Hermione is absolutely 100% perfect
*Ignore other ships entirely (I find this one especially amusing since I see it in a lot of the shippers saying such things)
*Are sappy, since we love the idea that the hero gets the girl
*Elitist and contempuous of those we deem "dumb"
*Ill-tempered

I'm sure I've seen a couple more... But that's enough for now I think...

I think it should be noted, however, that many of us stereotype other shippers. We're not alone in being unjustly put into unfair and unflattering categories.

Darkstar