This is random guff but here goes.

Quidditch is seen as the game of love. Ginny played seeker in OoTP because she had to, in every sense. Harry had been banned and Ginny played. Ginny 'gave up' on Harry and had to 'seek' something else. Ginny then became a chaser in HBP, chasing Harry when she 'had never really given up hope'. She definitely became mopey as soon as Harry started obessing over her. He noticed Hermione saw him looking at Ginny and laughing at her jokes, could Hermione have told Ginny this? Notice both Harry looking at Hermione for no reason AND seeing her looking back.

Final Quidditch point, if Hermione did play the game do you think she might be a keeper?

Ah, the beauty of dreams. Come over to the delusional side ... we have cookies ... and pumpkin pie ...

Woooww.. finally!! You guys are becoming possitive again!! So haaaappy!! Welcome to all the new users!! Sorry for the late welcoming but there's a huracane and I had no light... sad...

Well, guys, I'm really happy that you're finally looking for hints... they may not be as much as in Ootf, but they're still a lot. More than H/G can say of Ootf...
Let's stay possitive, the last book's not even written yet, so let's keep our hopes high.


And my fav moment is when they are in the nursery and Harry comes in and Hermione runs and huggs him, because Ginny didn't hug him!


And guys!! In the interviews... she talks about us, doesn't she? Are we delusional?? Mmmm... She says that we must go back and reread.... Okay... I'll be back....


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I'm still a H/Hr shipper...

Okay.. I just have to reread HBP...


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Splash....



No.. that wasn't me jumping ship.... that was me throwing the book after reading H/G....


Come on, guys...

She first talks about redherrings in romance... Then, she says that there is no need of romance in a book like Harry Potter if it's not to camouflage something more. And if she's taking the risk of creating a romance in Harry Potter it's because it's going to be really important... Okay!! Okay... she admitts there'll be something between Ron and Hermione.... but... come on! It's gonna be important!! Why to give it away in an interview... I mean, it's gonna be important, no??

My theorie?? Ron and Hermione as a redherring to cover something more important... I am not going forward, because that's to speculate to much... but the possitive and shippy side on my is thinkin...

Guys, let's really not give up....




Come on!! Rowling, my sweetheart... You had accepted that the girl in question in our ship is gonna have something with Ron... why don't you just say it?? We're delusional... Why not? Because we still have hope....





We're shippers because we've read SS, CoS, PoA, GoF, Ootf... we don't need to reread... we're very clear about our ship... we just crumble after reading HBP... but.. hey! Rowling... after listening to you telling us we must reread..... thanks!! You reminded us of why we're in this ship...


Oh.. and I've realized you hestitated... You think so?? Ok



And finally, I would like to say that thanks to that interview my news site from now and then will be only Veritaserum.... I found so rude the comments of Emerson and Melissa.. no matter if they had apologized for that...

I think that quote is wrong...it should be I don't think so. She just sealed the deal that we will defend H/Hr (canon or fanon) to the death!

Sorry, I just snorted as I reread that and had to comment.

DL

If H/Hr happens now it will show JKR to be a big fat liar after saying for definite that it is R/Hr. We should take comfort that we are at least in her thoughts, that our voices have been heard and our threat to the Good Ship and OBHWF has been noted. Think of the other ships that didnt even warrant a mention. I dont think we're the only ones grieving over this.

One more H/Hr moment. The hug in the hospital wing went on for ages and Hermione jumped up so fast it was like she was waiting for Harry to arrive. At a time when she needed comfort and was afraid she didnt cling to Ron or return to him once she had let go of Harry. The Harmony-submarine has power yet people!

I tried to read all of the threads, so I apologize if this one has been mentioned.

One of my favorite scenes was right when Harry, Ron, and Ginny got back to Hogwarts after Christmas (pgs. 351-354 US edition). Harry didn't get to talk to Hermione before the break, but almost as soon as they got back, he suggested that they sit down so he could fill her in on what had been going on. After he fills her in, though, they continue to talk for the rest of the evening. Just the two of them at a table in the common room.



Now if Harry, Ron, and Ginny left the Burrow "late in the afternoon," got to Hogwarts soon after, and Harry and Hermione talked for the rest of the evening......that's some pretty good quality time together, don't you think? My guess is at least three hours, with "late afternoon" being no later than 6PM and clearing out no earlier than 9PM. I wonder what else they talked about.

Just thought I'd mention this (since no one else has).

Ginny says "Voldemort" in the last chapter when she tells him she knew he would "never really be happy unless he was chasing Voldemort."

She did said it but there is no comment on Harry side like :" Harry blinked realizing that Ginny had said that name" .
But it was emphasized when Hermione said Voldemort the first time because it was the thing that calmed Harry.

There's one moment in HBP what i noticed. i don't know has it mentioned here but it's H/Hr moment:



the scene was in Madam malcins shop. it started beacause Malfoy was insulting Harry. but Ron did no attempt to calm harry, like he didn't care will Harry be in trouble or not. But hermione did. she kenw that if harry will use magic, he'll probably be excpelled from Hogwarts adn Hermione wouldn't see Harry again..

oh.. and again.. the 'grabbing his arm' part
on and that part:



ok, that's not really H/Hr moment, but he was HAPPY to know that he will see HERMIONE again. he did not mention Ginny nor Ron.. just HERMIONE

I've got to ask, can't stop myself. Why would Harry mention Ginny or Ron? They live there. It's not like he would be pleasantly surprised to find out that they're ... in their own home.

It's nice that you are trawling through HBP for Harry/Hermione moments.
I haven't even picked it up again.

Can anyone define "moments"?

Are you still searching for some hidden meaning in their conversations together?

Apart from Hermione saying Harry was "fanciable," I see nothing else to make me think she's thought of him in any other way than a friend.

How I wish that weren't true.

I don't think everyone's even taking the quotes into a romantic context. At least I wasn't with the one I just posted. It's more like celebrating their friendship/relationship/whatever you want to call it.

Just a little speculation. I kown you remenber the kissing scene Harry kissing without thinking worrying etc Ginny in the common room and Hermione beaming at him.
I kown it quite a bite farstreched but imagine an instant that Hermione might had thought " Well I always kewn that he kow to kiss" due to her comment of Hermione in the common room about the Cho -kiss in OoP

Smiling when Harry kissed Ginny as opposed to shooting birds at Ron when he kissed Lavender?

Here's my deal. Honestly, I could swing either way when it comes to shipping. I can see where R/Hr is coming from because it is, quite frankly, blatant. However, I always thought that Harry and Hermione would make a wonderful couple. She's brilliant, cleans up nicely (as per the Yule Ball), is loyal, caring and watches after Harry. It could have easily been one of those, "D'OH! Right under my nose all along! How stupid was I?!" type things ... and it was, with Ginny.

The thing that always made me leery of H/Hr fandom was the reasoning behind it. Apart from what I stated above, that which I completely understand and agree with, those book "moments" have always thrown me for a loop. They've always been so reaching that it's not funny, especially now. Hermione looks at Harry. Hermione tries to make him lower his wand so he doesn't get in trouble. Harry protects her, or tries to, when she's in danger, which he has done for loads of other people. They've always looked like pure friendship without a hint of romance and made the biggest case for me against H/Hr. How often have Harry, Ron and Hermione done all of these things for each other? I once saw someone compare a Harry/Hermione romance to a Ron/Harry romance using the same reasoning and type of book moments, and it made a whole heck of alot of sense.

What was the point of my saying all this, you ask? I don't know. I forgot. Carry on.

I find it strange that Ginny got her big chance in a chapter where bad bad mojo was taking place. Harry performed a mortal curse on Draco. Got in trouble for it. Hid the Snape book while being covered in Draco's blood. Ginny gives him a piss poor justification for the curse. The team miraculously wins the game while Harry is in Detention. Then Ginny comes running toward him with a scary expression on her face. I think Felix Felicis had a lot to do with Ginny's luck.

The whole book is a set up to keep Hermione away from Harry. I wrote about it in my thread There will be no Harry and Ginny.

I won't except a relationship build up as a pure thing when it is highlighted in the same chapter by near murder on Harry's part.

I understand that you think that we reach quite a bit but then again I got that from R/Hr and more so with H/G shippers at times also before HBP came out. I think the reputation we got for that was from the hardcore shippers looking so deep into things and coming up with things like the supposed hippogryph imagery. I personally saw H/Hr more from most of the canon moments in OOTP and some in GOF. I pretty much disregarded some of the more far reaching stuff.



I wouldn't say that. If I recall in her latest interview, she never said flat out that H/Hr wasn't going to happen. She just said for us H/Hr shippers to reread the book and that R/Hr will be canon. She never said that R/Hr will last. For all we know they could break up like H/G. Also, didn't JKR say that she was going to end the shipping wars in an older interview before? Well, she pretty much did end the shipping wars because there isn't that much for us H/Hr shippers to argue against now. So now she pretty much has leeway to do what she wants without the aggrivation of the shipping wars annoying her.

I would take JKR for her word if she flat out said that H/Hr isn't going to happen but otherwise I will still be a bit leery of her due to her history of pullingl big suprises in her books.

Edit: I forgot but if JKR does do H/Hr after R/Hr then won't that be similar to alot of fanfictions? Didn't JKR once say in an interview that she got a bit nervous from some fanfiction cause they get close to what she has planned? If that is right then maybe the whole R/Hr first with H/Hr happening after is it? Because I don't think I have ever seen anyone do the whole Horcrux thing. And other than Dumbledore dying and Remus/Tonks happening I don't think JKR has done much of anything that was done in fanfiction.

Must have misinterpreted the subject of the topic then.

Not sure. Maybe I'm the one who misinterpreted it. I just think it could go both ways.

Urazz, If my religion allowed me to bow to anyone, It would be you.

Its people like you who are keeping our hopes alive and really presenting arguments that are not far fetched.

I too read the interview in which JKR said that she was worried that there were people who had almost figured out her plot and she was a little uneasy with the Fanfics.

Come to think of it, she had to write something which would be better than fanfic. Most of the fanfics do pair Ron/Hermione and then break them almost in a similar manner in every fanfic. But JKR had to do something different. She had to make it more logical. IMHO she created the idea of Love Potion for sole purpose of Harry/Ginny and Ron/hermione.

As far as the shipping war goes. I agree, she deserves a break. I also agree with her idea of making a section on her website called "Wall of Shame." She had to pick one side to end the war. SO she chose the most "Obvious" one in which majority beleives in. By doing this the field is open to her, she can write Book 7 in peace and do what she has planned to do since 1997.

This is only my opinion. But if i am wrong then i am wrong. No argument about it. I can only predict events based on past. I have stopped taking anything JKR says as subtle. But i am going to give her the credit for books and in her books everything which happens is not obvious. IT IS ALWAYS SUBTLE. She loves building up and in the end of each book my assumptions have been proved wrong.

Book 1: It was Quirell instead of Snape
Book 2: It was ginny and i thought it was either Draco Malfoy or another slytherin.
Book 3: I really thought Sirius was the one who betrayed until sirius told who betrayed. It was wormtail.
Book 4: I thought that it was Karakof until the end. It was barty crouch Jr.
Book 5: I had never imagined what the weapon could be. It was a prophecy
Book 6: I had no idea that Snape was a traitor all along.

Again this was what happened to me and this is the way i interpretated them. It could be different for everyone else.

Ah Mary Jane Mary Jane. You don't come into my house and try this. It simply doesnt work.

The sad thing about all of this is is that it's YOU and everyone else who looks down on us who simply doesn't get it. Harry/Hermione is more than just words on paper, it's a feeling. It's something that each and everyone of us here KNOW, it's something that we FEEL. H/H is a concept that we believe in because we ALL have seen the obvious and simply wanted more.

Ron/Hermione is the chosen path for the books according to JK, thats fine, we've known all along that H/H was a mountain made up of small moments that we weren't afraid to climb. We weren't afraid to risk it all on the chance of failing, to not try is not to live. I'm sad, yes, that what I saw, what I KNEW in my heart was the way to go wasn't.

H/H was and IS about LOVE, about the love we each hope for abou tthe love we see in these 2 characters. It's a love based on trust, on caring, on knowing the other is there even if you can't see them.It's a love that EVERYONE should hope for and those who have it should cherish it always. It's not based on obvious clues, it's not based on the easy walked path, it's not based on what we're told. IT IS based on what we see in the actions of these 2 characters. It is based on the mountain that we had to climb to see what was right there that all those who chose to take the path missed.

I feel no shame in believing in H/Hr and I hope no one else here does either. I'm not going to bow my head in suplication simply because of what JK said. What I'll do is what I've always done: I'll look at H/Hr and feel pride, pride in knowing that I, that WE were right. The clues were there, JK was the one who missed them. I'm not going to feel badly because of the interviews or how the books may end because I KNOW that the path less traveled, that the mountain I..that we've all climbed over, is the journey that NONE of us would have ever wanted to miss.

What I hope, and I truly do, is that one day you and everyone else mocking us has a moment where you see someone or something that makes you feel how OUR ship makes us feel. Even if it's for only one day I hope and wish that for you.

You see or rather what you simply DON'T see is that these things, all the symbols, all the essays, all the subtle clues we understand, ARE WHY we will won't stop believing.

Nothing in life is easy, no path is ever perfect and in the end it's NEVER the destination, it's always the journey that matters. One day you'll understand that.

Take care

im Nobody

I know about them, they were really good ones. And now I'm crying...

Hmmmm....





Now if you all will open your books to page 186, Chapter 9, we may begin today's lesson. As you can see, When Hermione finds out that Harry told Slughorn that she was the best in the year she was extremely happy to hear he talked about her that way. Ron said he would have said the same thing, and she just tells him to shut up! Well class dismised.

Even though JKR is trying to "rein" in our girl Hermione so that she get with the program, our girl still try to come out from under JKR's thumb. Keep up the good work guys!

Some HHr fanfics had Remus/Tonks in it...

*laughing uncontrollably at this....*

*also laughing uncontrollaby at catfang6's post... though some weeks later*

My moment, I don't know if it counts or anything, (plus it does fall into my "delusional" category), is when Harry gives Hermione the map and tells her to watch Snape's office and then tells Ron to get the rest of the DA members. I don't know, but it felt as if he was taking her out of the fight that way, I mean, with her watching all she would mainly be doing is telling the others where to go because she would also be guarding Snape's office.
Or, to clarify, if there was an attack, she would have to stay and watch the office while the others went to fight. To me it felt like he was subconsciously protecting her, after the DoM he probably doesn't want her getting hurt again. Then I could ask, what about Ginny Sue?

Okay, that's all for now.

Has it occured to anyone that maybe the PoA shoulder cry during Buckbeak's "execution" may have been the big moment that everyone would think she planned ahead? Just a thought.

~*kt*~

I thought of something else too.
In the end, after Dumbledore's funeral when Harry announces that he is leaving, I like how where Ron looked stunned, actually "gaped", Hermione said sadly, "I knew you would say that." That moment alone... no one could convince me that I was delusional after that.
There is a connection there that no amount of damage to character or canon in Book 7 would ever be able to get me off this ship.



I don't know, maybe.

I'm perfectly convinced I am and I am not delusional...

Does that sound delusional. I am convinced by RHr and HG shippers I am and by you guys I am not... What gives!

I think what everyone needs to remember that, interviews aside. The second chapter revealed alot of what was to come in the book. The "Plan" was to keep Ron and Hermione estranged from Harry. That plan worked...Harry needs Ron's silent strength and support and Hermione's boundless loyalty. He did not receive either of those in this book for the very first time.

Keep that in mind.

I can picture them acting so flirty when they are both saying this.... awwww, if only!! And Ron's reaction is priceless!

Harry and Hermione forever!

You know what is really great about this moment? I now get to use a favourite R/Hr shippers argument against them! I love it... ahem

Of course ron would comfort her, they're friends

hehehehe that felt good



Anything that shows they still have that close bond we've all seen develop and grown to love is a h/hr moment... about that fanciable bit aswell... I just don't understand how any girl could have a male friend that they get along with and care about that much and find them fanciable and not want to date them... just doesn't make sense to me.



Well maybe we do tend to reach a little at times but I cant help prefering that to finding romance in insults and arguments.

But that's just me.

Yes, those moments between Harry and Hermione were purley friendship - we knew that. But what we loved about Harry and Hermione is that their friendship was so great that it could turn into a beautiful romance. Comparing Ron/Harry to Harry/Hermione is perfect in my opinion. Isn't happiness being married to your best friend? The funny thing is, Harry is not gay, and Ron is not a girl. Hermione is certainly a girl so it only makes sense that they would be together. The friendship they have between them, we (H/Hrs) all thought that it could blossom into something better.

Yes, Ginny was under his nose the whole time, but so was Hermione. The big difference between these two girls? Ginny loves the "hero" while Hermione loves just Harry, and thats what he wants isn't it?

Well here goes my first post.
I just want to say hello and that I have bin a H/Hr shipper since like the end of the first book and have bin a strong supporter ever since.
And like alot of people I got a little seasick after reading HBP and the interview but that's when I found this Pepto of site.
"The Light Within The Darkeness"
Anywho back on topic, (well sort of) I don't know if this has bin posted before.

"What did Scrimgeour want?" Hermione whispered.
"Same as he wanted tat Christmas," shrugged Harry
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Ron seemed to struggle with himself for a moment, then he said loudly to Hermione, "Look, let me go back and hit Percy!"
"No," she said firmly, grabbing his arm.
"It'll make me feel better"

Well I know it's not really a H/Hr moment but gave me some hope after reading it closely.
First, why did Ron want to leave so quickly, I mean did he feel weird because if in fact R/Hr did happen.
Or because he finally realized (or Hermione might of confessed) the Truth of H/Hr and wanted to leave the two alone.
Also look how it says " he said loudly at Hermione" as if to say-TRANSLATION!-[I'm gonna turnaround and go over hear and put my fingers in my ears so you guys can have and intamate chat followed by a Snog Fest!]
And she grab his arm(NOT HIS HAND) as if he was already half way over there.
But Hermione knows Harry better than enyone and knows he dosn't like to talk about his fealings especially after a death.
Well that's it for now, Expect to hear more from me.

No really convinced there. I thought that Ron was only reacting to Harry comments: "the same " that means that the MOM what to recruit Harry as the new Lockhart.
Ron reactions is quite understandable: he put Ministry + Percy so Percy would had been the one pushing the new Minister to keep asking Harry to play along-
Hermione stopped him of making a scene on Ablus funeral -
But I agreed that she is the one that kewn Harry better as himself
In the first Harry Potter film, after the monination of Harry as the new teamates and after Hermione had show to Harry the Name of his father on a quidditch golden plate we hear Ron murmuring more to himself that to Harry that " Its scary how well Hermione kow him.

FieryFalcon for your information Rowling told in a interview that Ron patronus was a little puppy

I see this as Ron trying to pry away from the issue at hand, because it's been played over and over again about the Ministry being deliberately ignorant, and Hermione making sure that he stays because Harry needs her and Ron, cause I think she's long realized that Harry needs his male best friend irregardless of whether he's helpful or not.

I had closed my eyes and had been replaying this scene into my mind.
Hermione whispered to Harry something that I hadn´t realized it before. So she did noticed what was happening with Harry and second she was very close to him.
Ron is struggling so he is making a decision what to do next.
Hitting Percy is not the best way and both Ron and Hermione kown it. What did Hermione do: no grabbing firmly his arm. She is acting like a mother reprimanting her fiveyears son not to eat the cookies or like a bigger sister and she is holding his arms retrainding him. Curiously Ron did seem to matter that Hermione is giving him this command and he is neither shouting at her neither taking umbrage that she ordered him around.

Plus, she's realized by now that
a. they all need to work together
b. By being left on the sidelines herself (due to the diary) in this book, she knows how it feels to be Ron (from OoTP)
c. Ron punching anyone is not going to do any good

I think this book brought them all back to book 1 - invested in their friendship (and how it's related to their survival), but with a lot of the baggage getting dropped at last. They all have re-set their priorities (or so I hope), and for that to happen R/Hr needed to get their feelings (whatever they may have been) out in the open; H/Hr needed to have their Mulder/Scully instincts vs. logic debates (It's Snape - He's a Teacher!- It's Snape - Dumbledore still trusts him!)- coincidentally, I loved how they both ended up being right about the diary's origins. Wait - do I actually detect layers in HBP?

I agree lady_of_hearts. I also remember JKR saying in one of he interviews that it took her 10 years (I think that was the number she threw in) to come up and work out the ending of that book because, if I remember her words correctly, i may be wrong, it's a very important moment o something like that.

I'm not really sure about the 'she had never done before' moment. Was JKR referring to Hermione's first kiss (even though it was just on the cheek) to anyone? Or was she talking about Hermione's first kiss to Harry?

Perhaps JKR was probably relaying a message that Hermione never kissed anyone before, even Krum. If that's the case, then I'd be very happy because Hermione gave her first kiss (though it's only on the cheek ) to Harry, and not to Ro- anyone else.

I want to believe that there are indeed layers in HBP, but we as readers have been misguided and left without the necessary information to find those layers. Perhaps the next book will help us...
I just can't seem to believe that someone brilliant enough to come up with the Marauder's map/Snape/fake!Moody/Harry stuck in the stairs scene in GOF would drop all suspense and contextual clues in a subsequent book.

Supposing there are layers, the R/Hr shippers haven' found any of them, because they're still on the "obvious" binge.

This is hard, layers to find...hmmm...

1. Hermione/guilt/fear
2. Harry denying his journey
3. Snape/Dumbledore/trust...
4.Ron growing up
5. All the relationships falling apart, i.e. the trio and hagrid

Layers there may be, but I really can't find any, what do you guys think?

On the something she had never done before, probably refferring to first kiss to Harry because according to the 6th book she kissed Krum.

Incredulous!
If any of you have not read HBP, go read it ASAP! If you haven't reread it, please do. By golly, the revelations to be made.
Unlike certain speculations by Herons and Chocolateers who would lay their lives down to prove that Harmonians come up with H/Hr moments out of thin air, the moments that strengthen my belief of the final outcome of H/Hr (more than 100%) are practically jumping from the page.
Here's a huge, huge tip to all you still needing hope. Pay attention to every single instance (and there are tons, believe me) when Harry reverts his mind back to Hermione...."What would Hermione say.....What would Hermione think...he could just picture Hermione....he was reminded of Hermione....he was never more proud of SPEW....something Hermione would say...."


There are dozens and dozens of such insertions, and the funny thing is that they pop up out of nowhere...

Yes! I noticed that as well, but never thought to say anything. He is always always thinking of her thoughts and reactions and suchlike. I wish I had HBP on me so I could find them all right now!

*nods head in affirmation*

^ this was proved in most moments in OoTp when Harry was subtly thinking about Hermione even if he's with Cho Chang. There's the weird dream sequence from the Book 5 wherein Hermione suddenly popped up out of nowhere. I also remember a scene from the early moments of HBP wherein Harry first mentioned her to Slughorn during their first meeting.

I thought HBP was going to be majorly H/Hr after reading that certain incident. Turns out, I was wrong.

The thing with JKR is she can't deny THE BOOK STARTED HHR **sorry...I know the mods aren't real fans of caplocks...** But everything was ridiculously slanted, there wasn't one mention of Ron until DD said they were going to see him. All the subletly: Snape saying that Potter only had powerful friends and that he himself wasn't special ( based on most of the series Ron an equal or lesser wizard than Harry, he's not talking about Ginny (kidnapped and then knocked out in the DoM and he's definitly not talking about Neville or Luna) he's talking about Hermione.

Why is everybody bringing Hermione up?

DD tells him about the apparation, he says 'Hermione Granger told me,'

Next chapter 'one of my best friends are muggle born,'

and finally 'crookshanks runs on his lap...hermione's here!"

Are any of you seeing a point here? Torture us maybe? Is JKR really that vindictive, we're an eqaul portion of her fan base, only someone really low would bait her readers like a five year old. There has to be some significance here (or maybe it's like a last salute to Hermione) but I disagree, with or without Ginny, Hermione is the leading character who's right for Harry.

By the way, I never thought of those 'he pictured hermione' and so forth. Who ever has read HBP again, can you tell me if Harry mentions Ron at all in the same type of way, subconsiously? Notice how Hermone doesn't mention SPEW once (something JKR made sure of) but fed it through Harry NUMEROUS times? It looks like Harry still loves Hermione in his subconsious, and not even Ginny Weasley can change that, he just has to figure it out soon...

I agree absolute with the above quote. I've never doubted JKR for a second, a willing fellower to wherever she took us. Without question nor frustration - till now. I've re-read and re-read HBP more than any other book in the series and not through pleasure which is something totally alien to me where HP is concerned. I've had to read it till I know it word or word for sanities sake in order to find some clue, a reason, something, anything - justification for it's presence where harry and hermoine are concerned. I'm a true believer in everything happens for a reason and thats whats carrying me till book 7 comes our way. I have to but for now I can't see what that reason is or why we have been left with what we have when prior evidence has been clear and present throughout prior books? It makes me feel so sad but JKR has my faith and trust to take me to it's conclusion - just.

I think that the hug in the hospital between H/Hr in HBP is a huge moment between them. It reminds me of that song, "Crazy For This Girl" by Evan and Jaron, particularly that line that says, "she was the one to hold me the night the sky fell down." Not Ginny, not Mrs.Weasley. Not even a pat on the shoulder from Ron. It was Hermione who held him the night Dumbledore died.

I also just found a song that goes along with this moment called "Count on Me" by Default. Here are the lyrics:

DEFAULT LYRICS

Count On Me


I know that life ain't always good to you.
I've seen exactly what it's put you through
Thrown you around and turned you upside down and so you
You got to thinking there was no way out
You started sinking and it pulled you down
It may be tough you've to get back up
Because you know that life ain't over yet
I'm here for you so don't forget
You can count on me
Cause' I will carry you till you
carry on

Anytime you need someone
Somebody strong to lean on
Well you can count on me
To hold you till the healing is done
And every time you fall apart
Well you can hide here in my arms
And you can count on me
To hold you till that feeling is gone

I wonder why nobody's waiting on you
I'd like to be the one to pull you through your darkest times
I'd love to be the light that finds you
I see a silver lining on your cloud
I'll pick you up whenever you fall down
Just take my hand and I will help you stand

Because you know that life ain't over yet
I'm here for you so don't forget
You can count on me
Cause' I will carry you till you carry on
Anytime you need someone
Somebody strong to lean on
Well you can count on me to hold you till the healing is done
And every time you fall apart you can hide here in my arms
And you can count on me to hold you till that feeling is
Gone so you can live today
Seems so long to yesterday
Keep on counting on me to carry you till you carry on
Carry on

You know that life ain't over yet
I'm here for you so don't forget
You can count on me cause I will carry you till you carry on

Anytime you need someone
Somebody strong to lean on
Well you can count on me to hold you till that healing is done
And every time you fall apart
You can hide here in my arms
And you can count on me to hold you till that feeling is gone
Remember life ain't over yet
I'm here for you so don't forget
That you can count on me to hold you till that feeling is gone
Remember life ain't over yet
I'm here for you so don't forget
That you can count on me to hold you till that feeling is gone

Completely Harmonious, in my opinion.

Good point Miss_Harmony, thats why I'm keeping the faith, can't figure out the layers or pointers JKR has left us as yet. Just going sit on my hands, button my mouth and wait till she does. Great song btw, it fits perfectly.

One H/Hr moment that really stood out for me was when Slughorn tells Harry that he makes sure his drink isn't poisoned by testing them on the houselves first, and Harry immediately visualized Hermione's reaction. I've sold my HPB books, so I'm quoting from memory here:

"In his mind's eye, Harry could imagine clearly the expression on Hermione's face and he vowed never to tell her".

Hermione has become more present in Harry's subconscious since GOF. At the Yule Ball dinner in GOF, Harry looks at Hermione to see her reaction to the elves getting more work. In OotP, Harry grins when he imagines that Hermione would say when she saw the statue of the houself at the DOM. In HPB, he knows exactly how she will react to Slughorn's remark, and he's determined to spare her feelings. It saddens me that if Harry and Hermione happen, R/H shippers will say that it came out of nowhere. I hope and pray that JKR is showing love as a flowering in the subconscious. Hermione's in Harry's dreams, she's in his head, she's in his memories, she's in his thoughts. Soon he will realize that she is already in his heart. Oh let it be so!