Read this for the History of the HMS Pumpkin Pie.. Tistytosty got the important facts right. She just had the names mixed up a bit 8-).

Mrs. Pepper and karenkate_kitty, ako rin! Too bad we don't have pumpkin pie here. I'm too lazy to make one.

i know here we call ourselves HMS Pumpkin Pie, yet on other boards/sites ive seen H/Hrs with sigs relating to HMS Harmony, havent really been around HP boards too long so im kinda confused about all this.i know H/G is HMS Chocolate and R/L is HMS Red Moon? Then what are the others? D/G? N/G? R/HR and others, but im mainly confused about the whole HMS Pumpkin Pie and HMS Harmony thing. If i could get an explanation it would be most appreciated, and if if this is not in the right forum then could it get moved instead of deleted?
Thank you

I try it all right. Because I'm on the cosforum too. First the HMS pumpkin pie is from FAP and apart from that at cosforum on the love thread there were some H/Hr shipper who opened a ship and called it HMS Harmony its says that they share first this thread and to debatte and defend and to give proofs for H/Hr. This is different to HMS pumpkin pie thats from SCUSA at FAP there you share just to ship H/Hr and not to mainly debatte.

Thats why there is a HMS Harmony file out where is debatted from book1 till book4 H/Hr and R/Hr.

HMS Chocolate is the answer to HMS Harmony at cosforum though HMS Harmony exist since "Book 5:Who falls with whom in love? thread 1" and HMS Chocolate only since "Book6: Who falls with whom in love? thread3"

About HMS Red Moon I think its from FAP or even mentioned at cosforum but there is it just the same.

About cosforum ships I can say there is it mainly about debatte like HMS Harmony.

I hope this helps

still a little confused but i think i got the point-so HMS Pumpkin Pie is for h/hrs who wanna post in peace and mind their own business without debating right? and HMS Harmony is for is for h/hrs who wanna spend their time not in peace debating with r/hrs and h/gs right?

So basically HMS Chocolate isnt for h/gs but its for h/hrs who wish to debate after OotP and HMS Harmony is for h/hrs who wish to debate pre-ootp? if thats not right then elaborate further please, this is giving me a headache

First of all, welcome to PQ! If you have questions about the ship names you can go here. It will tell you the name of all the ships!






LG

Woo this is all confusing me... I never knew Cosforums had their own...

I'm a little busy right now but I just wanted tell everyone that any confusion they have about ship names is something I'll clear up later. Since I've been at cosforums when all this started, I know the whole story.

Here's a little hint for you: Take a guess who came up with the name 'Harmony'?

I promise I'll explain everything a little later.

EDIT Dec 2004: The story can be found in my site, A Mad World.
- MEM


From what I remember and from replies like this one, MEM had originally posted here that he came up with the word "Harmony" in the COSforums. (I think it's this site.) He got "Harmony" from the sound of Hermione and Harry's names and from their affection for each other. - gal-texter Jun 2008

gotta ask.... i've been here for months but what does HMS stands for? I know it's a stupid question but hey.... I'm ......

HMS is a nautical term for ships in the British Royal Navy, and stands for "His/Her Majesty's Ship". Pretty much how the same way American naval vessels are called "USS" (United States Ship). Most of the FAP/SCUSA ships refer to themselves as "HMS" for some reason.

Eric

thanks E.C.R. Potter.....love your fics by the way...... most especially the ones based on HP and Samurai X

I didn't know there was a HMS Harmony H/Hr ship.

Thanks for clearing that up Mike! Plus that was very witty of you HAR- MIONE.

*giggles*

Mike - do pumpkin pasties count? But I understand where you're coming from - but I think everyone on the H.M.S. Pumpkin Pie consider it [pumpkin pie] as a symbol for Harry and Hermione's relationship - warm, sweet, yummy O_O comforting, dependable, trusting, loving . . . yeah. And also the sweetest thing you can have besides chocolate Not bashing any ship here, by the way.

- S.D. Who's Now In A Weird Mood *hears everyone on the ship groan* Sorry. *sheepish*

gah thx for that mike, clears up alot, if you've read the few posts ive made there in last few days then you realized i changed everything from pumpkin pie to harmony there for less confusion, but gonna keep pumpkin pie for everywhere else.glad i could sorta help to clear up the whole HMS thing also, tho i already knew that from previous shipping

That clears up a few unanswered questions that I used to have about the fandom. Thanks, Mike, for clearing that up! I started going to the cosforums after Portkey's downtime. Although, I haven't really been there lately. I must plan a trip there soon *marks it down on calandar*

Sarcastic Dragonette - Do pumpkin pasties count towards what?

NOTE: the answer's 3 posts away ~ Pen (gal-texter) 7Nov2003

Wow...that does clear it up! Thanks, Mike! Hmm...I don't know...which one do I want? Pumpkin Pie or Harmony? Both are cool...I think I'll wait and see.

I didn't understand a thing!!!

moving original post for Origin of HMS Pumpkin Pie

MESSAGE EDITED IN SEP2003
This was originally set up as 4 (or more) separate threads. I merged them into this one, and edited this 2nd post, sometime in Sep2003. Hence, most of the succeeding posts sound redundant, as they were made before I edited this one.

Note to H/H Forum Mods (Eric & Heaven): I thought I'd move this here for everyone's info, and to prevent new threads about this topic. I had to merge 4 threads into this one.

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MOD's NOTE & QUICK GUIDE:
by gal-texter. References abound in this post '-)

Origin of HMS Pumpkin Pie ==> it's on this very post
Fandom Shipping Terms (HMS, SS, etc.) ==> yup, it's on this post, too!

Origin of HMS Harmony (suggested alternative H/H Ship Name)
==> read Stncold's question about HMS Harmony, and Mad Eyed Mike's reply

Speculations on why R/Hr shippers call their ship the "Good Ship", and why their motto is "We believe in trees" ==> read this, this, this, this, and this
No R/Hr bashing, please. R/Hr shippers are welcome to enlighten us further!

Feel free to add your own comments on this piece of H/H history!

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History Lessons Start Here ...

Ever wondered why the H/H ship is called the HMS Pumpkin Pie? It's all because of this fic.

Title: untitled, but it's known as the original Pumpkin Pie tale
Author: Narri aka Someone The First
Rating: PG or PG-13, I guess
Genre: fluff
length(optional): one shot
Other Ships: none
Location(URL): fiction alley, Pumpkin_Pie_Archive Yahoogroup
Warnings:
Summary(optional): "You taste like pumpkin pie."
Optional User Comments: Read this and the 2 posts that follow it, for more info on the author (Narri).

EDIT 11May2004: Read this for Narri's Jan 2004 reaction to the pumpkin pie phenomenon, and this for another one of her stories.


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Professor Binns' lesson on the HMS Pumpkin Pie's History
-- One of the few times the students didn't fall asleep

Heh, I never thought of it this way - HMS Harmony for canon H/Hr, and HMS Pumpkin Pie for fanon H/Hr...

I like both, but I think I'll still go 'Pumpkin Pie' since I'm so used to it.

I think you people know this, but pumpkin pie was actually voted the number one aphrodisiac scent somwhere.

I picked the article up from here? but its source is well... unreachable.

If you all already know this, then sorry for being such an ignorant prat, I honestly never knew.

galtxtr

Thank you so much for posting this. I've always wondered where the name has come from, and now I know. I have to do an Illustration of H/Hr in the Ats tower now. so cool thanks again.

PS Has she writen other H/hr stories I have to know??????????

Narry Potter ? - She disappeared off the forums a whil.e she was working on a fic, and I think you mihgt find somereally old fandom people who have saved a copy of her teaser.

aww now it feels extra special to be in a ship where we're fed pumpkin pie.

Our history rocks!

*Pumpkin pie pulled gently out of the warm, roasting oven*

Anyone want some?

I think at COS forums, the Ron and Luna SHIP is called HMS Roony. Bit off topic, but had to let you guys know.

[COLOR=green]Geez, Jack, you're supposed to be so smart, and you don't know anything about PUMPKIN PIE?? This is "Arwen" by the way.....

'Sup Arwen...Besides, that was when I first came onto this site...I know perfectly well what Pumpkin Pie means now! And if you want to put color in your sig, you got to close the tag.

Anyone remember the tale of the Old Pumpkin Pie Knights?
Was a small group of elites dedicated to One ship and it's ideals.

"Old soldiers never die."

You know, when I first heard of the name of our ship, my reaction was- odd. Who call themselves "Pumpkin Pie"? However, after reading out history, I think we have some =thing to be proud of!

Wow. When I first started at FAP I didn't really have a ship. I don't even remember the first fic I read, but I kept finding all these H/Hr fics and I loved them. I read some R/Hr but none of it was very good, maybe because by then I was already biased. Anyway, I started finding a lot of people mentioning pumpkin pie as I got deeper and deeper into my new H/Hr obsession. Eventually I found the original Pumpkin Pie story and I loved it. But I wondered why it was Cassie's fic that got to name the ship. No disrespect to Cassie because I love her writing, but why did we decide that that was the story to represent everything we stand for? I had heard of HMS Harmony but I had no idea what it was until I read this forum. I actually like their reasoning behind the name. As cute as pumpkin pie is, Harmony makes a lot of sense. But what can I say, I've learned to love pumpkin pie. And now...*hands a piece of pie to everyone * I guess I'll adapt both names.
Oh and for all you people who have never tried pumpkin pie, try living in New England during Thanksgiving. There's no way to avoid it. It's everywhere!! *would run and hide if the smell weren't so good...*
~Jenni

Hi, Jenni Miller & MissMoral. A belated hi to Lisa69 and ClaraStar. Welcome to Portkey's forums! Introduce yourselves here.

As for the Pumpkin Pie thing, I couldn't relate to Pumpkin Pie. Not only because it's not based on canon, but also because it's not popular in my country.
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I like HMS Harmony. But the H/H ship rocks by any name!

EDIT 21NOV:
Temporarily locking this thread. There's another ongoing thread I'd like to merge with this one. I'm locking this for now, so as to minimize overlaps in the posting dates when I do merge them.

Hehe, another confusing note, I know.
~Pen

MOD NOTE: Okay, I suppose we should wait for a few responses before merging this with the Origin of HMS Pumpkin Pie thread (in the Prof Binn's Library forum) ~gal-texter 20Nov

Pumpkin pie.
This used to mean Thanksgiving to me.
A really yummy dessert that I couldn't wait to eat.
A seasonal pastry.

Now, though, I find myself surprised (especially around this time of year) how different the connotations of those words are to me.

It means now, love.
Respect.
Eternity.
Harry, and Hermione.
I get all squishy and warm fuzzies run through me when I hear it.

I find myself jumping in surprise when I'm at work, or in public, because people are saying those two magic words, and I can hear them more clearly than anything else that is uttered.

I must clamp my lips together to keep myself from grinning like an idiot and spewing out a whole bunch of gibberish like H/Hr rules! And the HMS Pumpkin Pie will never sink!

I am mortally wounded when someone says they don't like pumpkin pie. They're talking about the dessert, mind you, not the ship.

People give me weird looks.

My family is used to it by now, and none of them are mentioning any of the desserts we're planning on serving next Thursday. They don't want to deal with me anymore....lol

I find myself ordering it whenever I can. I mean, I liked it before, but I am obsessive about it now. If its on the menu, that is what I get. Passing up any chocolate, cherry, whatever scrumptious yummy, and beeline for the pumpkin.

I find myself offended when someone makes one that is too watery.
I've even made allusions to fanfics from it. (ie - a watery pumpkin pie is one that has H/Hr get together only after Ron dies. Hence, watery = tears/relationship built on tears/sadness)

A nice creamy smooth pumpkin pie (the best kind and my Gram makes them this way) is the best kind. (H/Hr build their relationship around each other, and their friendship, get together sans a R/Hr dabble. And have that perfect love to hold them through the bad times)

When Halloween was here, I found myself hesitating to stick a knife into my pumpkin in order to carve it. I didn't want to damage the silly thing

I got really jealous over a stuffed pumpkin that a colleague had on her desk, and wanted to get one of my own to sew H/Hr onto.

I think I'm past the hopeless stage, and am sinking into totally whacked out on pumpkin. lol.

Does anyone else share this gooeyness with me? Do you perk your ears at the sound of those words? Is your brain swimming with H/Hr constantly too?

Tell me, please, that I'm not alone! Or else lock me up for being mental

Hehe, I know how you feel. I used to really dislike pumpkin pie (the dessert not the ship of course) and I only tried it again after I had been on Portkey for a while. I didn't have it for so long because for some reason it just never came to mind, but then we were at a family picnic and they had pumpkin pie. I got all giddy and smily and practically forced myself in the front of the line (well okay, I ate my food really quickly so I was the first one done), but I couldn't stop smiling while I was eating it. My sister was giving me all these weird looks and then had some too.

It's not just pumpkin pie for me though, whenever I hear almost anything related to HP in the series I go crazy. I can hear almost anything and I'll think immediately of HP. Most of the time I start blabering to yself about how I should go on Portkey as soon as I get home. Weird looks? I'm used to it! Glad I know someone who does the same thing!

Since I'm already insane, I might as well reply to this thread - seems it was meant for all insane Pumpkineers everywhere. (Well, that was obvious.)

Back to the point.

All I have to say, innermurk, is that you did a great job describing how all us H/Hrs feel (especially during Thanksgiving . . ). For me, it's nearly all the time.

lol, well, I always loved the dessert pumpkin pie... I though our ship name was a tad odd at first, but now it seems natural as anything.

They actually discuss so called Geek Pumpkin Pie Moments at FAP, which are basically moments where you make some random connection to pumpkin pie and get that warm fuzzy feeling inside that H/Hr gives you.

I actually got a tad disappointed once when a friend of mine commented that something was "Easy as pie" but when I asked him whether it was apple or pumpkin, he said apple.

Yeah, I'm a whacko.

Darkstar

Like Nielle, I've never tasted Pumpkin Pie. It's not popular in my country (nor, it seems, is it popular in much of my continent, Asia). I don't usually go for pies, anyhow. But now that I've become an H/H shipper, I've resolved to taste pumpkin pie next time I visit the US or UK or wherever it can be found!

Innermurk,

I'm the same way now. It's funny too. As soon as I saw pumpkin pie in the market before halloween I ran over to the rack and grabbed the biggest one I could find.
My wife looked at me funny with a smile, "Whats the big deal? It only pie."
I was shocked,'Only Pie!...who is this woman?'
"Besides I don't really like Pumpkin Pie. I like cherry, get a one of those." she continued.
'What....cherry blah gross. H/Hr would never have cherry pie, nasty!....ok think fast......ok, I got it!'
Shifting a little in place, "Umm well the thing is I may be allergic to cherry's. I got sick the last time I eat it, so do you mind holds up the Pumpkin Pie...can we?"
"Really...I never knew that....ok sure get the Pumpkin then."
Images of Hippogriffs and Astronomy towers fill my head and I gave her a nice kiss on the forehead,"Your the best hon."
"Hmm maybe I'll get you Pumpkin pie more often.."
evil grin "Please"

hehe
Victor

I feel the exact same way. Though I have always loved the dessert, now I find myself irrevocably attracted to pumpkin pie. When served in the dining halls here at uni, I absolutely MUST have a piece. It's quite silly, but I always feel a bit of H/Hr glee when I think of pumpkins now. Halloween, autumn, harvest season .. all those bring to me thoughts of H/Hr.

lol
You guys have made me feel a lot better!

So, now when my family gives me those weird looks, I'll just look right back and grin and shout, "Pumpkin Rules!" Or something as silly as that.

Now that I know I'm not alone

Note to Mods: Sorry for the new thread. I wasn't sure where to put this silly topic. lol.

I have to tell you a funny story. I think its ironic, really. See here in germany Halloween becomes more and more popular and as popular I'm I thought it wouldn't be wrong to buy a Pumpkin and bake a Pumpkin Pie. This was last year this say I hadn't read any HP-books nor see any movie. You'd think pretty free from all this.
Yeah right my Pumpkin looked really good for the first try in my live sadly the pie wasn't all that great. The bottom to hard and the cream to soure I guess I shouldn't had take sour Pumpkins.

Anyway this year it was perfect. I didn't thought I could actuelly like this pie. I mean really like not just because I did bake it. Two persons did eat this in two days.

Whats ironic? The pie was better. You know better as last year as I didn't ship H/Hr.

I do all of the above. It's funny, really. Whenever I hear "pumpkin" my mind goes straight to Harry and Hermione! I have a pumpkin pie sitting in my freezer right now for Thanksgiving! Yummy!

OK, as I'm boring and English, I had never tasted Pumpkin Pie before, and when I went on holiday to Florida I forced my parents to buy me a Pumpkin Pie and I ate it ALL!!!
My family didn't like it, but for some strange reason, I absolutely ADORE it!
And now, I keep moaning that we don't have it over here!
Hmmm....I wonder why that is?

Also, when I hear Pumpkin Pie in a sentance I jump up and down and start blabbering on about ramdom H/Hr facts and try to turn the nearest person to me into a Pumpkinite, even if I don't know them.

*ponders* Why did I not respond to this thread sooner?

Anyway my ears do perk up at the two famous words and I am invaded with H/Hr thoughts. Even though I have never tasted pumpkin pie, I get insulted if people say it isn't as good as I think it is.

I simply walk away and tell them to never speak to me again.

I probably annoy people with my crazy fannon referrences, you know the ship names for the pairings. I probably confuse my friends as well. *shrugs*