Portkey forums - Kindred Spirits > What if H/Hr doesn't happen?

pumpkingurl

Jun 7 2005, 11:22 PM

When H/HR does not happen and R/HR sails instead?

I've got to be having a very, VERY bad dream that i'll soon be waking up from! LOL!!

I'm sorry.... but NO.... I'm not kidding!

anyway... I voted for, without doubt or reconsidering, NO! Of course I'll never abandon my ship! Never ever EVER!!! I fully believe that JKR would not put R and Hr together and since then be forevermore CANON! Not that I'm being arrogant or anything... but really, I can't see that coming... judging by how Rowling writes the books. Have faith in JKR's power (which she would probably, or rather, hopefully use) to bring Harry and Hermione together...

Just for now... I've got full intentions on sticking by this ship! and if this goes down, I go down with it!

emmy

Jun 8 2005, 01:40 AM

I think if Harry or Hermione got together with someone else I would always accept it as temporary

after all, its just highschool.

They are inevitable.

Medusa

Jun 8 2005, 02:04 AM

QUOTE(White Pixie @ Jun 8 2005, 03:15 AM)

This is almost exactly how I feel. And more eloquently put then I could have said myself.

Thank you. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I, on the other hand, have a whole group of close friends who are R/Hr shippers (the big kind. Those ones that if you prove a theory wrong, they get mad). So I've kept my mouth shut about how I feel. I'm not ashamed, I just hate debating about it with people who are. . .well. . .crazy. So, if their ship sails, I'll probably hear about it for-ev-er.

emmy

Jun 8 2005, 02:29 AM

QUOTE(Medusa @ Jun 8 2005, 09:04 PM)

So, if their ship sails, I'll probably hear about it for-ev-er.

and if it doesnt you can secretly gloat

My family is like that (Mum, Dad and all my siblings are avid Harry Potter fans) whenever I bring up the possibility of Harry/ Hermione... well dinner gets ugly

Hero of Time

Jun 9 2005, 09:06 PM

I voted for I'll accept the fact, but I won't convert. If by some carzy sick twist of fate Ron and Hermione happen in HBP I would have to accept it as a fact. I would be devestated and completely crushed thugh. All of my friends would give me so much guff about it. Can you believe in my entire school I can't find one H/Hr shipper!? However, I would still read a bunch of fanfiction and pray to the powers that be that Harry and Hermion happen in Book 7.

Panther

Jun 14 2005, 01:22 PM

If R/Hr got together, it would make me sick. It makes absolutely no sense. But, alas, I chose 'I'd exept it, but I wouldnt convert'. I'd make me sick the moment it was confirmed.

*Drifts off*

Hermione bent forward and kissed Ron passionately.

*Goes off to the bathroom and bends over toilet*

Anyway, *wipes off mouth* what I'm saying is eventually, (keyword: eventually) I'd exept the fact, (that is, if it ever happens. There's the Pumpkineer hope coming out

) but I'd never convert to...to...R/Hr.

*Goes off to the bathroom again*

If my ship sinks, I'm going down with it, (must be my Griffindor loyalty talking

)

aybuke

Jun 14 2005, 09:59 PM

Well, I live in Turkey and I will learn everything first on MSN from a friend. I will probably scream at computer screen, cry in bed, curse JK etc. etc. and start writing a fan fic which I can kill both of them

lockedinaroom

Jun 20 2005, 12:22 AM

After seeing the crazy, convoluted theories the Good Shippers have come up with, I'd lose all respect for JKR and the Harry Potter series if R/Hr got together. There is NO logic to the Good Ship and no amount of word mastery by JKR could convince me otherwise.

I voted for "accept it but not convert". There's always book 7. Anything R/Hr disgusts me. It rates below incest, IMO. BLEH! Ron and Hermione are too much like siblings to be romantic partners.

I think it really boils down to JKR's opinion on romance. Does she think it's a serious topic or light and funny topic. If she's serious (which I definitely think she is), then it's H/Hr all the way. If she's not, then R/Hr is a definite possibility. (Again, BLEH!)

harryhermionefan

Jun 20 2005, 06:03 PM

If Ron and Hermione end up together, I don't think that I'll be able to accept it. They fight all the time. I don't think that it's a good start for a romantic relationship.

I'll always be a Harry/Hermione shipper even if they don't end up together...

mmobeen

Jun 21 2005, 04:03 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen ..... Ladies and Gentlemen .....

Lets have fatih in our ship and in the fact that JKR has written 5 books with strong evidence of Harry/Hermione.

I have faith in JKR and i hope that she is not much of a fame seeker. I don't think she will go and portray Ron/Hermione together because there are more people out there who support this ship.

BUT Back to the question what will i do IF H/HR does not Happen.

FIrst of all i will rip the book into pieces as soon as i get any hint that Heron is happening. Then i will go out on a rampage of breaking everything in my room. THen i will take my frustration out on eating countless number of Pizza's. After recharging my energy. I will track down every single friend of mine who sports Heron and give them piece of my mind. Then i will to Downtown Toronto and scream at the top of my lungs that i hate everyone who supports HERON SHIP. At last when i will have taken out all of my frustration, i will go down to TIM HORTONS and buy an ICED CAPUCCINO and relax in my balcony while listening to LINKIN PARK - IN THE END

THANK YOU THANK YOU

MOBEEN

FieryFalcon

Jun 21 2005, 04:39 PM

I think I'll start nit-picking a lot more than I currently do if H\Hr doesn't happen. There are a lot of logical bugs in JKRs writing that my love for the H\Hr pairing is currently making me overlook.

Medusa

Jun 21 2005, 04:56 PM

QUOTE(mmobeen @ Jun 21 2005, 05:03 PM)

FIrst of all i will rip the book into pieces as soon as i get any hint that Heron is happening. ...

*Throws a rose and claps* You should mail that to J.K. Rowling. It would probably be enough to scare her into writing H/Hr if she hasn't already. No, I'm just teasing. Good humor, good humor.

QUOTE

I think I'll start nit-picking a lot more than I currently do if H\Hr doesn't happen. There are a lot of logical bugs in JKRs writing that my love for the H\Hr pairing is currently making me overlook.

I know excatly how you feel. No matter how many intimate, well written, and deep moments between Harry and Hermione I read, the obvious Ron and Hermione moments still scare me, and at times, almost makes me give up hope. I can only have faith that my intuition is stronger than my logic.

If that makes any sense. . .

FieryFalcon

Jun 21 2005, 06:00 PM

I wasn't referring to shipping flaws, but other general flaws which I'll refrain from nitpicking at. Honestly, I have never seen R\Hr, everyone keeps saying its obvious, but it isn't obvious to me. I hate to bash Ron, he's a good friend, but I don't see him as having any merit when it comes to a romantic relationship. I've never seen any indication that Hermione fancys him at all and frankly all the scenes where Ron supposedly fancies Hermione can be explained away pretty easily. Maybe I'm missing something? I think my ideal of romantic love and attraction are different than most people's.

Adagio

Jun 21 2005, 06:25 PM

QUOTE(FieryFalcon @ Jun 21 2005, 09:00 PM)

I wasn't referring to shipping flaws, but other general flaws which I'll refrain from nitpicking at. Honestly, I have never seen R\Hr, everyone keeps saying its obvious, but it isn't obvious to me. I hate to bash Ron, he's a good friend, but I don't see him as having any merit when it comes to a romantic relationship. I've never seen any indication that Hermione fancys him at all and frankly all the scenes where Ron supposedly fancies Hermione can be explained away pretty easily. Maybe I'm missing something? I think my ideal of romantic love and attraction are different than most people's.

I agree. When I first read those "BIG EVIDENCES OF R/HR" in GOF I was so confused. Ever since I was, what, 10 years old, I shipped h/hr, and when GOF threw that at me I was completely taken aback and wondered what she was going for, because I didn't see that coming at all. And not in the way that R/Hr shippers look at our ship, because they think we're boring, but in the way that I didn't understand what basis Ron and Hermione would have for a relationship. Anyone else feel the same?

FieryFalcon

Jun 21 2005, 07:21 PM

I read the books before I knew anything about the shipping wars. I didn't like the first two books very much, but the rest were really quite entertaining. Anyways, I didn't actively "ship" at all because when I first read through all the books H\Hr was painfully obvious. I'm bored one day and decide to check out some fan sites that my friends recommended (I've never discussed shipping with them) and to my astonishment I read in Ron's bio that he and Hermione are a couple. (yeah, it was muggle.net) I simply could not believe it. (I had no knowledge of the quotes or the movies at this point) I was utterly confouned as to how someone could get a R\Hr relationship out of those books. I still ruffle in indignation everytime I read R\Hr coupling.

WonkyKris

Jun 21 2005, 07:24 PM

If H/Hr doesn't happen, I'll accept it but won't convert. I mean, what else can I do? I'd have to accept that it doesn't happen. I won't like it but then that's my problem isn't it?

QUOTE(Adagio)

And not in the way that R/Hr shippers look at our ship, because they think we're boring, but in the way that I didn't understand what basis Ron and Hermione would have for a relationship. Anyone else feel the same?

Actually, when I first became a H/Hr fan, I still thought they were a rather boring.

It was only when I started reading FF and different theories here that I realized they actually weren't.

But anyways, no I don't see what basis there is for a R/Hr. The only reason I used to think Hermione and Ron would get together was because Ron was always the more...."stupider" one (no bashing, you know what I mean) of the trio so I thought she should go with him to make him feel better.

Kris

aybuke

Jun 22 2005, 02:25 AM

QUOTE(Adagio @ Jun 22 2005, 04:25 AM)

I agree. When I first read those "BIG EVIDENCES OF R/HR" in GOF I was so confused. Ever since I was, what, 10 years old, I shipped h/hr, and when GOF threw that at me I was completely taken aback and wondered what she was going for, because I didn't see that coming at all. And not in the way that R/Hr shippers look at our ship, because they think we're boring, but in the way that I didn't understand what basis Ron and Hermione would have for a relationship. Anyone else feel the same?

I felt the same way. First 4 books were printed here in 2001, so I was elevn when I read GOF. Gof was printed in the beginning of November. Before that I visited the publisher's site and there were somethings about book 4. It was saying that Harry's ball date and I got a bit excited. ...And Yule Brawl and Ron's reactions, but honestly, I didn't give a ######. It looked so impossible to me. I've never thought that it could have a possibility but after I became a H/Hr shipper fully, I realized that nearly half of the world was R/Hr'er.

hippo_buckbeak

Jun 23 2005, 10:31 AM

If H/Hr doesn't happen I will be ever so happy.

Panther

Jun 23 2005, 10:59 AM

QUOTE(hippo_buckbeak @ Jun 23 2005, 12:31 PM)

If H/Hr doesn't happen I will be ever so happy.

No offense or anything but...WHAT?! Okay, maybe you mis-typed something, okay, calm down, breath. In, out, in, out.

You're starting to scare me!

ruler_of_nestleyland

Jun 24 2005, 04:58 AM

Eh...do we have an anti H/Hr shipper here? Or did you mistype something? I honestly hope it's the latter...Grrness.

Anywho.

H/Hr has got to happen X____x And if, IF, R/Hr, do get together I don't really think they'll last long, with their arguments and all. My friend Sal thinks the arguments make that all the more interesting. Gah. My own best friend, a R/Hr shipper. I have never been more ashamed in my life.

And no, I won't stop shipping them. I tend to stick to a ship when I start, well, shipping it. Whether it's happening or not.

-Chris.

FieryFalcon

Jun 24 2005, 08:03 AM

At this point I don't think anything less than H\Hr, R\L and N\G can be presented in a way that will be credible. OotP just seemed to seal up those relationships (sorry to all the D\G fans out there), especially during the MoM incident.

Mister_Midnight

Jun 24 2005, 08:13 AM

honestly, I never did read anything into r/hr in GoF. Maybe to me it wasn't that big of deal. All I got out of it, was Ron was a prat, from basically beginning to end, whether it was hermione or Harry, he was a prat to both of them. to me, him being a prat to hermione just shows he a prat all together, no romantic inclinations there because he was already a jerk to harry earlier in the book.

FieryFalcon

Jun 24 2005, 10:53 AM

Yeah, Ron was a jerk, including a big time jerk to Hermione. Especially the way he reacted when she told them she had a date. Ron point blank refused to believe it. Does he think that Hermione is so ugly that she couldn't get a date? Apparently asking her out himself never even occurred to him until he was unable to procure a date on his own (in the end Harry has to get him a date). Indeed the only girl that has ever shown the slightest interest in him is Luna. Perhaps even as early as the Yule Ball. We know that Luna likes Ron's owl Pig.

QUOTE

Ron's tiny owl was twittering madly on the top of the icicle-laden banisters, a
scroll of parchment tied to his leg. People passing him were pointing and laughing,
and a group of third-year girls paused and said, "Oh look at the weeny owl! Isn't
he cute?"

Reckon that might not have been Luna there?

Sulphurous Mercury

Jun 24 2005, 11:07 AM

QUOTE

Reckon that might not have been Luna there?

Yeah, I've thought about this one before, but dismissed it quickly, because I wouldn't necessarily picture Luna in a group.
However. I've posted here before and I'll dp it again.
We can't be sure about anything.
Harry and Hermione, following all the literary, moral and semantic lines ought to be together. It doesn't mean they will.
Should JKR really go the R/Hr path it would just be another proof what a dog-eaten world we are all living in, a world where all the preferences are set wrong. I have never 'shipped' before and I'm postive that I will never do it again, simply because the on-writing novels nowadays seldom transmit a special message, if being written 'in series', a message I hope to see in JKR's books.

hermionegranger80

Jun 25 2005, 05:16 AM

I would love more than anything harry/hermione beome a couple but if they dun end up in book 6,JKR may never intend for them to be together at all.also,i hate to say this,ron is more easier to handle emotionally,harry well,he's erratic,angry up to a certain extent can't control his temper n may b abusive to hermione,she may note all this things b4 entering into a r'sip w. him.hence'he felt so angry that he wanted to shake her,how could she remind him of that blunder'...'

i would give miilions to c harry n hermione tog. no matter what,reality-will JKR do d same..,i strongly believe that no other gal is right 4 harry n his life,than hermione..we all agree..

hermionegranger80

Jun 25 2005, 05:25 AM

QUOTE(Sulphurous Mercury @ Jun 24 2005, 12:07 PM)

QUOTE

Reckon that might not have been Luna there?

Yeah, I've thought about this one before, but dismissed it quickly, because I wouldn't necessarily picture Luna in a group.
However. I've posted here before and I'll dp it again.
We can't be sure about anything.
Harry and Hermione, following all the literary, moral and semantic lines ought to be together. It doesn't mean they will.
Should JKR really go the R/Hr path it would just be another proof what a dog-eaten world we are all living in, a world where all the preferences are set wrong. I have never 'shipped' before and I'm postive that I will never do it again, simply because the on-writing novels nowadays seldom transmit a special message, if being written 'in series', a message I hope to see in JKR's books.

I too have started shipping only after reading the HP books.then it struck me how compatable harry/hermione were,not because they looked cute tog.(movies) but how well they complemented each other...i think the best r'ships r d couples who r opposites n compliment each other,not ron/hrm coz they r too diff.harry is doing well in studies book 5,wants to work hard..n herm/harry play a major role in book 5 ending..whole dept mysteries thing...not ron/herm.surely JKR had a reason,n not to mention,harry is growing v. powerful,he is more than herm n ron is just laggin behind in his power compared to harry/herm.they r well matched in power,books-maybe,n she truly knows him better than anyone..we can c that..also,if harry is smart/sensitive,he'd know it n value her more,more than a good fren...

CursedBlondie

Jun 25 2005, 10:27 AM

I would probably start crying, I always cry when reading HP and there is a sad moment. I might throw my book some where far, but I would never convert to the ship that does happen. nope neva...

Gothic Girl

Jul 1 2005, 10:34 AM

NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

i don't know what i would do ( but i don't think anyone else wants to)

Precision

Jul 1 2005, 10:44 AM

*Starts slowly walking away....*

Man...Don't sound like your giving up hope already

If it happens....then it happens...we'll meet it when it comes
(Did I just quote Hagrid?!?)

Anyways, I'll be dissapointed, but I'll accept the fact, and move along.
As long as Harry has peace, joy and is away from grief at the end of this, then I'll be satisfied.

But right now, I'm very very anxious in the coming of the final 2 books. I won't be dissapointed...

Gothic Girl

Jul 25 2005, 11:58 AM

Well, if h/hr did not happen, i would be confused.

The Proof is in the OotP!!!!!!!!!

PS: did my avatar work this time?

Gothic Girl

Jul 25 2005, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(frankthetank @ Apr 6 2005, 05:25 AM)

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck............

If ron and hermione happened I think I might throw my book through the tv which would effectively destroy two of my prized possesions.

This ship makes absolutely no sense to me(please note that this is about the ship itself and those who do ship the aforementioned couple....enough with the legal mumbo-jumbo).

All these two do is fight. Please note that I said fight and not bicker or squabble. This is not unresolved sexual tension it's fighting. UST is fighting over stupid meaningless things. Ron and Hermione fight over some pretty heavy stuff such as their own personal philosophies in other words the things that make them who they are. This does not connotate a healthy relationship at all. It connoates a relationship that is borderline abusive and could at its best be described as unhealthy.

Ron and Hermione being together would automatically isolate harry and cut him off naturally from his biggest supporter, hermione, because she would no longer be able to devote herself fully to him as she has in the past. Plus it would inevitably push her character to the background and we the reasder are left with five books of build-up with no pay off.

Also someone said this earlier that they(r/hr) would have to completely change who they are for them to be together, and I completely agree. Ron would have to become more sensitve and understanding, and Hermione would have learn to keep her opinions to herself, hide her intelligence and becore more 'flirty'. This is not the basis for a solid relationship. This would be reminiscent of the whole Joey/Pacey project on Dawson's Creek, and we know how well that turned out(I'm also completely disregarding the series finale. It like Rocky V and The Godfather Part III never happened). Plus this pairing changed the entire dynamic of the show which by the end should have been called joey's creek. That couple made wanna pull my hair out and I've got a lot more invested in these books than I did that show so I can only imagine it being much worse.

Also it would be too late to even start this as there is limited page space left, and alot of that is going to go to harry/his love interest and the Dark Lord. Harry and Hermione already have a solid relationship and them getting together would not be as much of a stretch as her and ickle ronniekins getting together, and no one has to change becuase they both (Harry and Hermione) accept each other for who they are.

If this abominable coupling does come together, my only hope hope is that Harry ends up with someone other than ginny. Ginny Weasley is not a little sister character. She is an overglorified fangirl. She is Colin Creevey without a camera. She will always see the boy-who-lived and never just harry. Actually I wouldnt mind seeing Harry get together with a slytherin girl if hermione isnt available. It would balance him out, and it would further inter-house relations.

Harry has to get with Hermione.........its the only thing that makes any sense.

I agree!

AdamantEve

Jul 25 2005, 12:03 PM

Well, I would accept the fact (if it's written, it's there, after all. That would be like getting hit by a bus and denying it happened from your wheelchair), but I won't jump ship, ever. Besides, it makes for better fanfiction, don't it? Lol.

I love the Hermione+Harry pair too much to abandon it based on cannon. I don't even totally buy into any Sacred Scripture (no offense meant, whatsoever, to the religiously devout), much less works of literature (however superb). I will believe, into the ever after, that Harry and Hermione make more sense being in a relationship more than anyone in the Potterverse.

I will respect what JKR has written, so that means all I have to do is write fanfiction working around Hermione and Harry ending up with other people. *smirk*

The Obsidian Warlock

Jul 26 2005, 12:08 AM

I haven't jumped.

There's too much invested in the books that concerns it, and Rowling's interview felt kind of forced. I want to see their interaction in book 7; it's the only way to resolve this.

Dylan

Jul 26 2005, 01:32 AM

QUOTE(frankthetank @ Apr 6 2005, 11:25 AM)

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck............

If ron and hermione happened I think I might throw my book through the tv.

All these two do is fight. Please note that I said fight and not bicker or squabble. This is not unresolved sexual tension it's fighting. UST is fighting over stupid meaningless things. Ron and Hermione fight over some pretty heavy stuff such as their own personal philosophies in other words the things that make them who they are. This does not connotate a healthy relationship at all. It connoates a relationship that is borderline abusive and could at its best be described as unhealthy

Harry has to get with Hermione.........its the only thing that makes any sense.

Well said.
I couldn't believe that JKR thought that the whole Ron/Hermione thing in HBP was romance.

They are just hurting each other now. The squabbles in the previous books was ok, but now it's just horrible to read, and a complete turn-off.
Hermione has devoted all her time to Harry, they have a special bond, (plus, they look great together in the films!

)

It's just got to be.