If H/Hr dont happen *shudders* then I'd be upset, I wouldnt go crazy, but I just wouldnt be able not to be sad.
I think I'd go crazy only if R/Hr and G/H happened.
I rather have Harry with Draco than with Ginny, and Hermione with Ernie than Ron.

I am so positive that it will end up with H/Hr in the end that I have even been known to swear never to pick up any HP book ever again if it does not happen...

However, let me say this... I actually could be satisfied with any ship that comes from the final pages of the books... IF I have been convinced by the story to come that it is plausible... with one exception...

Harry & Ginny that is one ship I can not stomach and will not ever sail...

I would be very disappointed if Harry and Hermione do not end up together in the end... If that does happen - I probably would lay down the books and not pick them up again for a very long time... and DROWN myself within the depths of my H/Hr fan fiction writing... since at least I can find solace there...

If H/Hr doesn't happen and R/Hr and H/G does *pucking* then I'll just skip all the icky moments. Whats sad is that I love to re-read those books over and over again because I love them so much so I couldnt stop reading them just because I dont like the couples.

If H/Hr doenst happen (ha as if, it will happen ) but if for some reason the world stops turning, and hot becomes cold, the sky becomes heavy, Ron becomes a genius and H/Hr doesnt happen, then I'll have to cheer myself up by going to Gerard Butler.net, and I'll watch his movies. That actor never fails to cheer me up.

If H/Hr doesnt happen ( as if) then I'l go drown my sorrow at Gerard Butler.net. Chatting with other "Tarts" wil cheer me up, and watching Gerry's movies.

Hullo.

If H/H doesn't happen, I will be soooooo upset. I'd cry. Seriously, I would. I wouldn't mind so much if they both end up alone, but I would rather one of them dies than for them to end up with anyone else. For example, I hate R/H with a passon (but I do think it will happen short term, so I won't stop reading if it does, since I'll expect a lovely breakup scene later on.)

But really if H/H doessn't happen, I'd be depressed. But it will happen, so I'm not too worried.


Cya!

__weirdo

I would most definitely be disappointed. It's something that I hope for and look forward to, and if it does happen, I'll be extremely happy. If either of them end up with someone else, I'll be really really disappointed and such. I would see it as wasted potential.

If H/Hr doesn't happen...I'll be seriously disappointed. It'll kind of leave me feeling cheated. JKR has written this beautiful relationship between those two, and she drops it for R/Hr or H/G. Possibly H/L.

Harry/Hermione would still be my OTP though. No questions about that .

I had a talk with some of my Hr/R shipper friends and it seems that if R/Hr doesnt happen, then they'll convert into Pumpkin Pie lovers!
I was a little suprised by what they said, now my question is this: If for some reason H/Hr dont fall in love would you suddenly become a R/Hr shipper?
Or would you just accept that H/Hr doesnt happen?

I voted for "No". I would have voted, "Never in my life", or "Over my dead body", but they weren't on there

I voted "No", because I can't just accept the fact. I've been reading between the lines for too long, and I've grown accustomed to the real fact that Harry and Hermione belong to each other. It will be JKR's fault that I don't accept it, if it happens, because she wrote the books leaning greatly to Harry and Hermione. They are equals and complete each other in a way no one else does.

That's why it's a "No"

If JKR writes it well, and doesn't make it sappy, and basically gets R & H to a place where they can believably be together without a complete deus ex machina, then fair enough, that's what happens.

I don't think I'll "ship" it as such, much the same as I don't ship Molly/Arthur. I'll probably continue to read H/H fanfic though.

I'll accept the fact, but still ship H/Hr and R/Lu. I can be very acceptive of things that I don't want to happen, atleast most of the times. It isn't anything I can do about it since it's JK's books, so why go into denial about it? I will throw a hizzy fit for a couple of days, though. And then I will wake up, because it was all a dream. H/Hr and R/Lu is so much more likely than R/Hr always.

No, I wouldn't. I like H/Hr too much for that! I'd start read/write AU stories instead, where H/Hr is possible.

R/Hr? Nu-uh!

Meh... I'll accept it, but I won't "ship" them. Ron/Hermione isn't terrible though. What I really don't like is Harry/Ginny. If THEY happen, I might just throw my book into a lake.

EDIT:
Well actually, I worded that wrong, I won't just accept it. Because it doesn't make any sense. JKR's put way too much H/Hr in the books for them not to happen... I would demand an explanation. I don't think I could ever accept anything else unless JKR explains why they weren't meant to be even though she wrote them that way.

If R/Hr were to happen I'd frown and chide myself for choosing the wrong ship again. But I wouldn't throw a temper tantrum and toss my books out of the window or anything like that. I'd accept that that's what JKR wanted and live it, even if I didn't like it. I would not convert to R/Hr though. I'd still probably reread the HP series and read it with my nieces and such and I wouldn't live in denial. I'd accept it as pure fact. Fanfiction would probably play a heavier role in my life, reading all of the AU stories in which H/Hr happened, but that's about it.

I'm pretty positive H/Hr are getting together. JKR said that the clues are embedded within the book and the embedded clues I'm finding lead to H/Hr.

Jennifer

I'll accept it. It won't stop me hating it though. As much as I don't religiously follow the books just for the ships, it will make my opinion of them go down, mostly because my expectation is that JKR WON'T go for the obvious. If she does, then well... I'd not think as highly of the books.

Oh good, responses

I wouldnt convert, I'd accept it, but it doesnt mean I will like it.
I just cant like the idea of R/Hr or H/G, but I will learn to accept things for what they are.

Though I have too much faith in H/Hr so I'm not worried, there are too many "subtle" and "not so subtle" clues that they will/are falling in love.

I would never ship R/Hr, even if they happen in the books. HP fandom is the first fandom I have actually been in. I mean I sort of got into Dawson's Creek fandom, but that was just at the end when I wanted to see what all the hype was about. Pratically every show I have watched, even soap operas, I can usually guess the future couples fairly accurately. I can not see JKR making R/Hr canon, and even if she does, part of me will deny it.

The only thing that a R/Hr relationship tells me is that if I fight with a boy, it means that he likes me. He can accuse me of not being able to get a date on my own, but I shouldn't worry about that because he likes me. He can say that the only reason a guy would want to date me is because he is using me to get information on my other friend, but I shouldn't feel offended because he likes me. He can yell at me in front of my friends, but I shouldn't feel offended because he likes me. He can ruin my first date, but I shouldn't worry about that because he likes me. I don't think I even need to go on.

Having R/Hr become canon would only confirm to every kid and teenager that the only way to express your feelings for someone is to insult them, even though you don't really mean it. I don't want JKR to write R/Hr because I want her to say that just because you fight, that doesn't mean you have feelings for the person. For example, I had two debaters in my history class in high school. They were both very opinionated and they often clashed on a lot of issues. On day, someone told them just to start dating to 'releave' their sexual tension. I mean, can't you honestly just disagree with someone and not be sexually attracted to them, apparently you can't according to some people.

Another long post, but I tend to ramble.

cookiemonster

never!! no way ... okay, at first i might get really pissed but i'll come to accept it you know? But i'd never, ever go over to *that* side [shudders...] ... because we all need a strong love like Harry and Hermione's, and if we go against that, then what do we have left?

I won't go over to the R/Hr ship if it happens. For the simple reason that the ship holds no appeal to me. I don't like the message it sends. Maybe it will be the final ship, but that doesn't mean I will ship it.


I'll stick to H/Hr.

Harmione, good poll.

I voted for accepting the fact. But I would never, ever think it is a good idea. Acceptance is really there just for my own peace of mind. I would still ship H/Hr, and I would still read H/hr fanfics.



This is a comforting thought. I feel the same way. I always tend to ship the couple that then end up together, or, are understood as the ultimate pairing. The only way that JKR can make H/Hr not end up together, IMO, would be in the mode of "tragic ending", a la Gone with the Wind. As long as it is understood that H/hr could be together, but then it is rendered impossible, well, I think I could live with that, but not with another pairing. yuk.

Thank you




Ditto, I've never sailed a ship that has sunk. I've been lucky so far, as far as determining which couples will be together in the end.

I guess a lot of us have strong faith in H/Hr, thats great

Never. I like Harry and Hermione because they work for *me.* In my world, they are so perfectly matched that it would be wrong wrong wrong for them not to be paired together. If JKR thinks otherwise, and if she pairs Ron and Hermione together... okay, cool, it's her story after all. But for me, in my little world, Harry and Hermione are *the* couple. They just wouldn't be a canon couple.

Viva Harry/Hermione!

No, because we're true H/Hr fans!! Otherwise, why else would we be here??

Mod Note: Please do not post one liners. ~Jennifer/Hermione's Twin

I'd be completely disconsolate for a long time. I'd probably have to put the books down and get over it, and then come back to them and try to read the books for the storyline involving Voldemort. Personally, Harry Potter is as much about Harry and Hermione's love as it is about anything else, so it would be hard for me to read about him with someone else (like Ginny or Luna, just like it was hard for me to stomach Cho).

I'd just be deeply disappointed and completely baffled on why JK wrote the perfect girl for Harry and then gave her to someone else.

Caina.

Thats us, well most of us because there may be some out there that dont think the same as some of us. But they have every right to change ships if they wish .

I wouldn't accept it at all. But I'd still read the books with the hope that they'll break up by the end of Book 7.

Actually, I'm leaning toward H.E.R.O.E.S. if Harmony sinks. If H/Hr can't have each other, nobody else can!

If H/G happened, I'd burn the book, get a drunken monkey to pee on it, and THEN I'd throw it in the lake,lol.

But seriously, if JKR were going to develop R/Hr's romance further, then she should have done it in OotP -- directly after all the Yule Ball "clues". But no, what did she do? She developed H/Hr!! Plus, she's spent so much time in the 5 books that are published just getting to this point, so if R/Hr did happen *gags* it'd be rushed and unfinished. Also, its called "Harry Potter and the..." not "Ron/Hermione and the Kid with the Scar Doing Stuff."

*gets off podium*

Jade

EDIT: One person said they'd convert. ::Begins hunt for the ship converter::
lol J/K.

I voted no. I've disliked the idea of OBHWF since I first saw it in the books, but after GoF, when there was some indication that R/Hr might be an option, I really started to hate it. I will never like R/Hr, because to me they are really unfit for each other. It's not an idea of Harry being better for Hermione at all, all that came later. I hated R/Hr long before I was an H/Hr shipping (after GoF I was still kind of hoping Harry might end up with Cho). I hate the idea of Harry being left out with a R/Hr pairing (and he will be left out if it happens; it's not realistic if he isn't), and I never liked R and Hr's interactions - at least, not in a cute or romantic way. They clash; they don't mesh; they are unfit.

After reading GoF I started reading fanfic. My first was After the End. Though it was written okay, I didn't like it for it's Out-of-Character-ness. I never finished it. Lucky for me, the next fics were Lori Summer's and Cassie Claire's. I converted to H/Hr as it seemed so much more right than R/HR or H/C. The shipping debate opened my eyes to the possibility. OotP's release was the revelation.

If JKR goes for R/Hr I will still finish the book, because it's Harry's journey I'm reading. But my respect for the story will go down, as will my respect for JKR writing realistic and character-building pairings, esp. if H/G happens too. But we'll see how it goes.

So, no, I will never really accept R/Hr because they are not right together, even if JKR makes it canon. R/Hr = canon = bad wriring. IMO.

Sorry for going on!

Wow Selenology great post (as always). I know what you mean, I mean I will learn to accept it, but I will never like it, not in a million years.
Just thinking about H/Hr together makes me happy, they would be a beautiful pair.
I'll finish the book, I'll re-read all of them, but I'll always skip the R/Hr moments (which is close to none imo).

I'm not a huge H/Hr fan (I tend to ship the impossible ships like D/G and N/P...) so, I have to say that I wouild accept it but not convert. I'd be too suspicious, like JKR was going to jump up and say, "Gotcha! It's really H/Hr!" and then laugh at us... and if that doesn't happen, I'd probably shurg and go no with my life. However if H/G or H/Lu happened I would give the book to my dad and tell him that he won. And then bang my head against my desk for several hours and shout at innocent people that I see. Because I've got issues.

Luff,
Seph, the somewhat R/Hr shipper already... +waits for ducks to be thrown at her+;;

If H/Hr doesn't happen? Well, I'll certainly be embarrassed. I've spent the last five years or more insisting to my sisters (both R/Hr 'shippers) and my mother (neutral) and any friends who will listen that it's going to be Harry and Hermione in the end. I know my sisters will never let me live it down if H/Hr doesn't happen. My older sister especially. When I mention H/Hr and my confidence that it will happen, she likes to look pityingly at me, shake her head, and say "It's not gonna happen, kid." As though I'm a flighty child (at the baby-ish age of 21) who believes the unicorns really exist or that there are elves living in the closet. Ohhh, if H/Hr doesn't happen, I'm going to be made to suffer. Stupid mean sisters.

If H/Hr doesn't happen and R/Hr does? First of all, I will be disgusted with the series as a whole and with JKR as a writer. Second of all, I will still never hear the end of the gloating from my sisters. Sigh.

***argel***

If... what? If H/Hr doesn't happen? Seriously, I would be very much crestfallen. I mean, what's the point of JKR giving those subtle hints and symbolism towards the H/Hr ship? And I spent a lot of time convincing my friends that H/Hr is the best ship among the HP ships... And I argue with them because of this...

I would also be kinda down for a while. But I won't stop reading the books. After all, the book is not entirely about Romance. It's not the main plot of the story... though I would still be greatly disappointed.

Anyway... If this does happen... Maybe I'll just sulk in my own little corner and turn on the computer and just browse around portkey and read fanfics about H/Hr...

~Erika

I guess I'd be sulking for a very long time... Maybe some annoying stubborn tears streaking down my face too... I'm scared just of the thought of it... I'm just guessing, shooting in the dark, 'coz I doubt I can foresee my reactions to such a blow, but one thing's for sure: it wouldn't be good. Perhaps just throw the book somwhere and try to glue together the shattered pieces of my hopelessly romantic - yet broken - heart...

Anyway, we can't turn our back to the fight! Let's make our stand and defend with all our might and wisdom! Hope won't fade!

It would be a devastating defeat for us if H/Hr doesn't happen. We know about Ron's obvious crush on Hermione and his own subtle or not so subtle ways of showing her that he likes her(his accusations of her "fraternizing with the enemy" speech at the Yule Ball,for example). And it's a possibility that she might have feelings for him as well that would lead the not-so attentive reader into thinking that the series will end with the two of them falling in love. However,I think her pull towards Harry goes deeper than mere highschool crush and it's a more soulfull,spiritual union than the one that she has with Ron. Which is why it's been so hard to convince us that R/Hr are going to get together in the end.

If Harry/Hermione doesn't happen, I would want to know how JKR could have been so blind to what she's writing in the books. There's too much in all 5 books so far pointing the H/HR way for it NOT to happen, too many instances where you stop and think "What was her intention here? If she's not going to write H/HR then why did she write this part in?" I'd never really be accepting of it until JKR explains all the H/HR stuff she put in the books.

Other than that, I would cry. Definitely. Then I might roll my eyes and get disgusted with myself for becoming so obsessed with fictional characters, remind myself that these are books after all, and if JKR just let one of the best love stories ever written just slip through her fingers that easily, then the opportunity is still available for ME to write one

Harry/Hermione has a lot of evidence, but Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny have some too, so I still think anything is possible. I just hope that if H/HR doesn't happen, JKR will surprise me and write the other ships in a way that I'll actually change my mind and like them...slim chance, but here's hoping. I mean honestly, Ginny just pales in comparison to Hermione. *shakes head*

EDIT:
Oh, and if H/HR doesn't happen, there's no way I'm visiting COSforums or reading comment boards. H/HR gets enough sarcastic and snide comments as it is, reading more arrogant comments isn't really going to help me feel any better.

I usually lurk around here and seldom post but had to add my thoughts to this topic.

I have shipped H/Hr completely from the beginning...I came a little late to the game, I didn't read the books until after the first movie came out and didn't become obsessed with it until after POA came out.

I love everything about HP. But I especially love the amazing love story that is H/Hr. From the first book, I think JKR has established that everything Hermione does, she does for Harry. She has been by his side always and there is only one reason why. She loves him. Plain and simple. Harry, being the teenage boy that he is, hasn't realized that yet. But at the end of OotP, he did have a revelation that will lead him to the inevitable. He loves her.

Ron is there for a reason. To be Harry's friend, his male confidante. His problems with Harry in GoF were typical of boys in that age range and didn't surprise me. But that's all Ron is to me. I don't see him as a love interest for Hermione at all. So I would never convert to R/Hr because to me it simply isn't anything at all.

Oh and Jade...I loved your paragraph in your post where you talked about how JKR developed H/Hr in OotP and that pairing R/Hr would be rushed and unfinished. I agree with that. The books are about Harry and JKR has already written 5 books in the series. With Ron and Hermione no closer as a couple than they were in the first book. For her to suddenly write them as a couple in Book 6 when Harry's impending battle with Voldemort is becoming more of a reality, would seem trite and way out of line with the rest of the story. For Hermione to turn her attentions to Ron at this point would also seem very much out of character.

I also agree with you, selenology, when you said "r/hr=canon=bad writing". That's it. JKR hasn't taken us there yet and for her to throw that at us right at the point when Harry needs Hermione the most, well, it just wouldn't make any sense.

So, it's H/Hr for me, all the way. I simply won't accept it any other way.

Thanks for listening!

Sharon

Does that mean that you count R/Lu as impossible too? Since you ship that as well...?You wage shippy war with your dad? Sounds like fun. I really don't want H/Lu to happen, it is so against R/Lu for me to be happy, but at some point rather that than H/G. Unless there is R/Lu.....Usually one ducks in anticipation of things to be thrown at you....

Thanks, hammergal. And you explained it very professionally and to the point.



Heh, I tend to ship the impossible as well. But I don't think all the ships I ship are impossible actually...like Dobby/Winky or Lupin/Tonks...and I have found that I adore the idea of McGonagall/Dumbledore and even the occasional Snape/Trelawney

Whaaat? It could happen

But when I'm off at another fandom I come across the truly impossible but fun to look at *cough Harry/Azkaban Fortress cough*

No never, I could be a supporter of Harry/Ginny, if it makes Harry happy. But Ron/Hermione never, I think it would be a betrayal of Hermione's character to couple her of with Ron.

The bond between Harry and Hermione has been growing since book 1 and does not seem to have ended yet. It would be a missed opportunity to abrubtly end this growth and force another girl onstage that could become more important than Hermione in two books.

I would ship R/Hr before I would ship G/H, but that is all. While I don't see R/Hr at all, if G/H became canon, I would skip over all the parts with it. I have never shipped Han and Leia for the same reasons. Only with Han and Leia, Harrison Ford, himself, was our leader on the anti-front. I got out of Star Wars because of HS/LO.

I wouldn't throw a mega-strop or anything but I can't see me ever reading R/Hr centric fanfiction. The books are from Harry's POV and I tend to stick to fiction that's in that POV, which obviously excludes R/Hr fiction unless Harrys a dirty little peeping tom on the sly. In all honesty I don't find most other Harry ships that objectionable, I just prefer Hermione as a potential love interest as opposed to the other, rather undeveloped, female characters.

It's only the utterly screwed up ships like Harry/Snape or Harry/Bellatrix that would drive me away from the books and the probability of that sort of ship happening hover around 0.

One of the scariest things I find about all fandom in general are the droves of people who so fervently believe that their preferred ship is the only relationship/pairing possible between those two characters. I'll openly admit to adoring well-written Harry/Hermione, but there are very few ships that I don't like, if they're written well. For a good, believable story I can like anything from Ron/Hermione to Harry/Parvati.

For me it's not so much in who ends up with who as in the journey leading to that point. Somebody randomly deciding Ron and Ginny are evil because they see absolutely no other possibly than H/Hr is like thinking an ocean is a really large pond, and is the quickest way to make me stop reading a fic.

Whatever JKR decides to officially use as a pairing, if she ever does, will be fine with me. I won't stop liking other ships, but I will respect her for showing us their progress, and the reasoning behind it. Since as long as they're happy in the end and have finally found/accepted/admitted to their True Love, I'm happy for them.

For me, a personal ship never becoming officially canon isn't a reason to quit appreciating the depth and breadth of the characters and their stories.

No... never. Even reading fan fics that have Ron/Hermione as a couple make me feel sick. I would feel completely robbed and like I'd wasted my investment of interest in the series if Ron/Hermione wound up together. It would be like a big kick in the stomach. Harry and Hermione are the heart of the series as far as I'm concerned.

Becky