Okay.... I have two things to say

on-topic: Piper... I think you are right about the baby ones. I like babies and whatever, but some people don't establish the dynamic right, making it a bad story.
off-topic: HiddenOracle -- I just read That Day and I thought it was wonderful!

Katie

HiddenOracle: It was nothing in particular, don't worry about it. Your story was fantastic, and I've used plenty of over done plot lines myself. Hehe, I was actually just commenting on a trend I'd noticed!

xitai

Ok!!!

Ryoko had it right- the stupid truth or dare fics. I have yet to read one that had any skill involved in the writing or a point.

Personally, I see too many "Harry all of a sudden loves Ginny and she loves him too but then Draco comes and messes it all up." I wish authors were a bit more original than that. Of course some writers can pull it off.

I've got to say that there is a lot of overused D/G plot lines... Such as the "Ginny needs money so she works for her worst enemy and end up falling in love in five seconds..." or the "Voldermort needs ginnys soul/child and falls in love with the deatheaters son who kidnepped her..." and yes, they do get really boring after a while

hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this isnt the person it norm is. insted- its me! im great and your all mesed up. harry potter sucks...

thank you. <holy crap! what a perfect face!! WEEeeeee

EDIT: I am SOOOOOO sorry if anyone read the above. a few minutes ago my friend (without me knowing) attacked my computer and posted it. she is an idiot, and doesnt really think what she wrote, she was just playing aorund. I, again, apologize!! I'm so sorry! Dont be angry at her or me!!!!!

*wipes brow* whew! lots to say very quickly.....so yeah, just thanks for agreeing with me about truth or dare, Ava.

HiddenOracle: I loved That Day! Sure, a plot bunny was used, but there was a twist. I loved it!

As for overused plots: I hate Ginny bumping into Draco in the hall (although I'm guilty of using it once. Don't kill me.), following each other out of the Great Hall, but just recently that is starting to bother me: when Draco has a curse on him from his father or whatnot. I've seen it so many times. And it comes between him and Ginny or something. It's a great idea, but it's becoming overused, I think.

Although I do love a few of those before-mentioned plots (in this post and others)... They entertain me when there's nothing else to read. *shrug*

~Faith~

heheh. I lvoe those "cursed Draco" ones. *Bashes Lucius with a giant hammer* What a great git!!! *looks at dead Mr. Malfoy* er.....*hides hammer*

it wasnt me! I swear it!

~Ryoko~

I really haven't read any over done story lines. But if I did, I wouldn't continue reading the fic! I would review saying how I felt it is over done, but I am not an author yet, so my opinion may not matter, as to someone who does write fics.

I can't stand when story lines seem repeated and over done.

1. Ginny becoming a maid/slave to the Malfoys.
2. A spell changing Draco's mind set.
3. Ginny needing helps with Potions.

Show some originality. That's how you gain respect as an author.

Ack, I agree with all of these! However, everybody has admitted to reading/writing these D/G cliches, so no biggie. In fact, I think cliches can be done sooo wonderfully. That's why they're used so much, because 1 or even 2 people can do it beautifully, and then everyone else tries and.. well... fails.

But yeah, cliches can be great fun, it just depends on the author.

I think if a writer uses a cliched idea on one of their first fics...well thats expected.

PLUS, the d/g fandom has become so huge that there aren't many ideas that AREN'T taken!

Although alot of these are very good ideas for fics...writers need to have originality to make the story their own.

If a writer has their own way of writing a story, even if the plot is INCREDIBLY overdone... people will still read it. It all depends on the amount of talent of the author.

besides, who can resist another d/g fic?

hello! new user, here.

Sakura1287's and J's were the first ones I thought of. But another D/G cliche I really dislike reading is when Draco and Ginny is being forced into a marriage together. Like their parents would ever do that!

But I guess if the story was well-written and had a LOGICAL explanation, I wouldn't mind reading it.

HEhe.. It isn;t easy to escape cliches especially when some of them are quite good. @_@ *blinks*

Also, just because you have read the same plotline in a couple stories, oesn't exactly mean it's cliched.

I haven't even read some of these ideas....[well ok i have 90% of them a million times]

Pretty soon it's going to be impossible to write an original D/G fanfic, because everyone's idea's keep getting stolen and there wont be anything left.

that wont be fun.

That's too sad... I'm sure there's plenty of original plotlines.... Maybe. But I agree with you up there ^ , Everyone does steal plotlines, but think about all the authors who don't. *shrug*

~Faith~

I just love it when I stumble upon a D/G fic that is completely original, because I ave no idea what is going to happen.

I mean, we all know it'll end up D/G, that's why it's a D/G fic...

But it's not like we know the story already from reading it before in another fic, so it just makes it so much more fun to read.

Hehe Ditto. Oh yes, and I just thought of another overused plot for D/G

Masquerade Balls -- I love them, like, absolutely love that idea, but some authors are taking the idea and writing it over... *shrug*

~Faith~

Oh my gosh, yes I have read a ton of masquerade balls...

actually...one of MY fics has a masquerade ball...but I think it fits rather nicely so no big deal, right?

I'll have to check that out. Even though I love new and original stories, there is nothing like reading a cliched one that so good it tops them all.

Yule Balls!!! Too Many Yule Balls!!! Please!!! Let up on the Yule Balls!

Hehe.... alot of people use Yule Balls and Hogsmeade trips beacuse that is the extent of romance in canon.

Who goes with who to Yule Balls and Hogsmeade trips. Other than that, there really is nada.

But this is fanfiction, so people should be more creative! Think outside the books!

I've actually got some D/G in my new upcoming HP fanfiction. Thank God none of the cliches mentioned have to do with it. *Wipes sweat from forehead.*

I'd tell you my lovely little D/G plot that mixes in with the plot at hand, but hey, wouldn't want to start a chain of cliches, right?

Hehe, good idea Kathornia...

Some of my fics involve a bit of the cliches listed here but none of the plots are entirely cliched, so i think that's all right.

But it IS always fun to write a fic that includes NO cliches at all.

I agree Sakura, but none cliched fics are few and far between.

There is a lot of clichés I don't mind, but honestly, it gets boring after a while. The things I really can’t stand is resortings, neither when Draco gets sorted into Gryffindor and gets all nice suddenly and befriends the Golden Trio, or when Ginny gets sorted into Slytherin and turns mean and everything.
I also hate exchange students, mostly. I don’t mind them if they don’t have big roles, but when they are the main-characters.
And I really don’t like when Ginny turns out to be Harry’s twin or Voldemort's daughter.

Okay, I've read what everyone's said and I agree almost totally! The thing I'm surprised no one has mentioned is the old "Draco teaching Ginny to use a broom properly" scenario. I mean some of them can be really good, but others I have to stop reading. Especially ones that involve badly written broom sex!

Then again I'm pretty sure most of mine have been done before...

On another point, does anyone know of any really good and original D/G fics?

I'd say the most original one I've read is "All You Need is Love"... never seen Ginny and Draco turned into royalty briefly before...lol.

Nice!Draco is (and I will repeat it because it is oh-so-true) HORRIBLE! DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The worst plot I've read is (and I just read this like last night, this is an ACTUAL quote) "Draco and Ginny got on the train and talked and by the time they got off they knew they were in love".

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

No way they would fall in love THAT fast. NO WAY! Okay 1. It's DRACO! He's not a plush toy! He's a frickin' MALFOY! 2. Why would they talk? For what REASON? They didn't fall in love, they just..... and 3. ARGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Okay, Novalee, I really have to read that fic now. Where was it? I can't believe any author is, well, dumb enough to try anf pull instant love like that off.



I don't read much but high quality fics now, so I can't really think of anything else to add... but it seems as though EVERY D/G fic has a plot line that forces them together somehow, and they hate it, and then over the course of time they fall in love.

I would really like to see some that are actually done another way. Even though I admit, that would be very hard.

Ack, I can't decide!

I haven't actually read any fics about the first one; just fics about Draco dating Ginny so he can throw it in Ron's face. The second last one is definitely one of the very worst. No author, not even the very best, could pull off a scenario like that. As for Novalee's quote...-dies-

However, choice number three can be nice if written by a good author. But not Ginny going DIRECTLY to Draco looking for money.

I ended up voting for Nice!Draco. Because one of the more fun aspects of D/G is Draco insulting the trio, Ginny berating him and the whole thing ending in a major snog session... And also, a Draco out of character is simply just not Draco anymore.

Oh GOD! Definately Nice! Draco, I mean! In what universe could this ever exist?

Least Favorite D/G
*Sad-depressed couple dating eachother to get back at friends and family D/G I liked this D/G the FIRST ime i read it...now its all over..and annoying
*Shagging for fun, but then there's a kid so they have to be serious D/G Okay, Iadmit it...i have a weakness for this D/G when done right, but some of the time its annoying (lets face it, there are some people who shouldnt write fanfic...6th graders for instance
*Ginny's in a tight spot so she goes looking to Draco for money/Draco offers her money for something else D/G I read one of theese that was pretty good...but every other time ive seen it...ick.
*Sudden realization that they don't really hate each otherD/G THE WORST...grrr...
*Nice!Draco wants to be in the good books with the trio so he dates Ginny and then falls in love D/G I voted for this one even though i said the above was worse. I said the other one was wrse cause theres ALOT of them, and theyre all bad... this WOULD BE the worst, but ive never come across it...thank God!

No, no, I get it. I do like that one too, only if it's written well or has a twist or something...

But, truly, these cliches are just what you come by all the time- and sometimes I'd rather hex myself with bat bogeys than read 'em, written well or not. I just would really like something new!

*frustrated*



~Faith~

I just really wish there were more action/adventure Ginny/Draco fiction out there. When all the writers just write romance and angst it all gets pretty much the same...

I will try to wrie a proper action fic. Just as soon as I finish of all my smutbunnies, and my crossover.

I know Crossovers are evil. But it is HP/Angel so ... err... yeah....

I agree Aurora, i would love to see more action adventure D/G fics. The only ones ive ever seen feture Evil!Ginny, or SoEvilHesAlmostAsBadVoldemort!Draco

i look foreward to seeing yours

Michelle

the yellow brolly rebellion has action in it...in fact, its my FAVOURITE DG ever! Its by Rhi Marzano, and its on Fanfiction.net, and Magical theory.

Michelle

lol I can safely say i dont like nice Draco and the who sleeping for fun then up pops a kid gets right on my nerves!!!! Grrr

L.S.

Actually I'll have to go check if I've written anything that falls into those catagories...

I'm going with Nice!Draco as well That's simply too alternate universe/unrealistic for me...He's under a spell? Highly unlikely

Shagging for fun and Nice!Draco are the worst ones, but I voted for sudden realization that they don't really hate each other because it's soooo over-used, while I've actually never read a fic about the first two.

NICE Draco! I think is horrible but Tom/Ginny/draco 3somes are the WORST!!!!!

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