Ergh, I hate a bunch of D/G's and I figured I would see what the majority is overe here *beams* Hope you all enjoy the results as much as I will...

~Nicole

P.S. If you like all of these, just simply don't vote on any, or just send me a flaming PM saying that you love all those kinds of stories. (I won't mind) Thank ya!

Ug, I hate most of those. I don't like it when its a depressing relationship with no benefits simply to hurt their families. I think the shagging-like-rabbits can be good but the seriousness from a kid is usually a bit of an atmosphere killer, but I guess the right plot and author could maybe pull it off!

Good idea for a poll!

Hard to decide, really.

All of those are horrible cliches that should be simply outlawed. *fumefume*



Moving on.

I've decided on Nice!Draco. Nice!Draco is no Draco. Some boy with a wig.




Good idea, Kaykos

I've decided that Nice!Draco is the worst felony. But really...

I mean, TeenPregnant!Ginny ? Leave her in H/G where she belongs.

~Nell

I absolutely hate nice!draco. EW EW EW get him AWAY!!!! *banishes Nice!Draco*

I like my Draco snarky. Oh yeah, and sexy.

I'm not sure which one I hate more... It's really a toughy. I don't like many, many of these, this is what I would like to do to them all: heh heh heh, I'm so violent, but I swear, it's all the Matrix's fault. They influenced me *points*

Sad-depressed couple dating eachother to get back at friends and family D/G- UGH. UGH. UGH. UGH. UGH! I REALLY hate this one. Seriously, why would either of them hate their closest friends, or their family that they worship. It just doesn't work.

Shagging for fun, but then there's a kid so they have to be serious D/G- I think this is the most annoying. NONE of the authors (that I've read anyway) can find a good reason for them to shag. In one fic, they were on the train home, and Draco just whipped it out. I could have died laughing... it was hilarious and pitiful at the same time. Anyway, Ginny wouldn't be stupid enough to hide the kid, she'd milk him for all he's worth. She's not the saint everyone makes her out to be.

Ginny's in a tight spot so she goes looking to Draco for money/Draco offers her money for something else D/G- the only good one of these was the Serpent's Bride by Reiko Naoe. Other than that, it was all, G: 'Oh Draco, save me!' D:'Of course, because I'm a saint! *heavenly light*' It is extremely annoying.

Sudden realization that they don't really hate each otherD/G- this one really works because they have really never hated eachother, and just loved each other deep down inside This one is pathetic, I think I may go write one and post it as a Humor fic, and indirectly make fun of every single author who has written this poorly.

Nice!Draco wants to be in the good books with the trio so he dates Ginny and then falls in love D/G- *stomps Nice!Draco (aka want-to-be-Harry!Draco) to the ground with her sharp boots* Argh, this one is horrible, not only is this completely out of character, but it is just severly nasty to read. *shivers* talk about squickyness, that's it. Now we all know why people don't like D/G, they've read these kinds of fics.

Nicole

Kaykos, you take the words right out of my mouth. Who could have said it better? I don't know.

Anyways.

Amen.

actially i really hate... NO OFFENSE
1. Nice!Draco wants to be in the good books with the trio so he dates Ginny and then falls in love D/G
2.Sudden realization that they don't really hate each otherD/G
3.Sad-depressed couple dating eachother to get back at friends and family D/G

and Shagging for fun, but then there's a kid so they have to be serious D/G is stupid NO OFFENSE. But if Gin every gets pregnunt she will most lykly milk draco of everything she can.

i dont mind this 'Ginny's in a tight spot so she goes looking to Draco for money/Draco offers her money for something else D/G'. Serpents Bried is the best fanfic written with this sorta plot.

i meant no offense and this post wasnt intended to be a flame. i m ever so srri if i offended anyone in the process.

ZF

I dont like NICE!Draco. Its just not a good image for him.

I think i take offence now...

Okay i'll admit it all of these storylines have been used and abused time after time but i cant say i truly hate any ecept for the OCC'ness of NIce draco.*shudders*

However there are stories out there written with these plots that are really good where the writer tries to avoid the clishes and manages to write them in a new and exiting way....

I'm lying you know... I will love any story with smut and angst.

And Kaykos: Have you read Paid in Full? Did you hate it? *wibbels* *Dies*

I can't stand these horrible fics where Ginny is suddenly pushed away by Harry Potter. Then!! By chance, my gracious..who goes there?! Who sees her crieing her eyes out?! Draco Malfoy and it goes something like this:

Ginny: -sniffle weep snort sniffle-
Draco: Why if it isn't a Weasley, [insert insults here]
Ginny: Oh sod off
Draco: Didn't mean it, lets kiss because I've secretly liked you and potter is a git
Ginny:.. K.

-sigh- Horrid. Wretched. Gr.

The majority of the current day Draco/Ginny stories on most fanfiction websites are a tad bit vile. The entire bumping into the hallway, end up kissing, then screwing each other like wild animals, and somehow falling in love over sex, is a really tacky way to put their relationship. I find that one the most offensive. A relationship based purely off sex isn't one at all.

Draco suddenly turning nice in a matter of seconds is another horrible scenerio. Look at his personality, it'd conflict against the basis of our stories which is the actual books written by Rowlings.

Sudden realizations? Please, you don't go from hating someone to loving them in a matter of seconds. It isn't in human nature and even fiction stories must stay within some boundaries before pushing the limits of belief. I've always hated the idea of love at first sight, because it overlooks the magnificant process of finding someone, getting to know them inside and out, and then slowly building this intense bond. Writers of Harry Potter fiction tend to use the word 'love' way too losely and most don't comprehend what it is actually about.

Wow, I had a hard time deciding which to pick...

strangely enough when I read the options, I metally imagined how may fics I have read that fit each of those stereotypes. But I'd have to say, hands down, my worst favorite is Nice!Draco. Even in the best D/G fanfics, Nice!Draco doesn't ever exsist. It's always supposed to be Tolerable!Draco, or I'd even go for SLIGHTLYNicer!Draco. But taking away his sarcasm and smirk? That's just cruel and not right.

Ginny's in a tight spot so she goes looking to Draco for money/Draco offers her money for something else D/G ~ I personally hate THIS scenario, but I must say, there are variations of this plot that I dont mind. One time I read a fic where Draco stole Neville's toad and it was Ginny's fault or something and the only way he would give it back was if she won it...by playing strip poker. He was evil, sarcastic, and even cheated in the game just to make her embarrased, but in the end his concious won out and he let her go with the frog (and her clothes).

I guess what I am getting at, is although these plots are very overused, some authors used them to make very creative and GOOD stories, as opposed to the other hundreds who... didn't.

Definately 'sudden realization that they don't hate eachother'.

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Is anyone else really sick of some of those over used story lines?

I've read a few good ones that follow the same story lines.

The one that bugs the crackwhore out of me is when Ginny becomes a maid, and falls in love with Draco after like .42 seconds.

*flounces away*

Yup, there are some way overdone storeylines.
Do they have to be D/G? well anyway here are some I hate:
A character develops some god-like powers & strengths & such.
When Draco goes to the good side just cuz of Ginny

Ok can't think of any more. See ya

ooo!! <raise hands and swing wildy> Igotone!!!

I am getting really tired of the plot were GInny needs money so she goes to Draco and she has to marry him for some reasons. The first time I read it was in Serpents Bride, however, it was really good since it was really long and had lots of twist. BUT!!! The new additions are so boring If you have read Rekio Ne....'s story call Serpents Bride You will understand.

I remember some!
When Ginny goes to Draco because she needs something like money.
And when they get together just to get back at the trio.

I'm with all of you.... I hate when Draco turns good because of Ginny (what HPcrazed said).... it doesn't work like that... if you're a good enough writer I suppose you might be able to do something with it, but even then, if I read a story like that I lose interest real quick. I'm out....

*Dayton*

Sassy has one! Sassy has one! *jumps up and down* How about, when Draco and Ginny snog once and then declare undying love... its so pointless!

QUOTE (Sassychic807 @ Jul 27 2003, 04:40 AM)

Sassy has one! Sassy has one! *jumps up and down* How about, when Draco and Ginny snog once and then declare undying love... its so pointless!

That's udderly pointless in every piece of fiction!

Like HPCrazed182 said...

When Ginny is all "Oooh! I hate my brother and his friends. I have to get back at them because they are oh-so mean to me. I'll become "bad". Hmm...who's bad?"

Then she becomes the school slut via the help of Draco Malfoy. THEN the all mighty trio notices her. THEN Harry Potter falls in love with her because he realized "she's not his best friend's little sister anymore". THEN Ginny suddenly sprouts some breasts, a curvaceous figure, and has a gaggle of boys drooling after her. THEN the author plugs Ron and Hermione together. THEN Ginny becomes all mighty and self righteous and has crying fits with her brother and his friends. THEN the trio ACTUALLY wastes their time by spying on Ginny (pffft!). Then the author proceeds to end the lovely fic with lots of poorly described sex, Ginny and Draco defeating Voldemort and everyone lives happily ever after as the bloody happy family and Harry as "oh so brokenhearted".

*sits back down on chair wearily*

so..SO overdone...

- J

Another one is when they sleep together, she gets pregnant and runs. He finds her and yadayada that one is so ARGH.

here's one for any fanfic.....Truth or Dare. ugh.

~Ryoko~

I hate the ones where Draco finds Ginny all lost and crying about Harry and he takes the opportunity to get back at Harry by going out with ginny....but falls in love with her along the way...

Then there are those ones thats are all the same where there really IS no plot they just come to school and draco picks on her more than ever now that she is (magically) beautiful and perfect in every way and he finslly admits he only picked on her because he liked her...and ginny just goes along with the whole thing.

yep..those two are pretty pointless plots too.

Oh, the wonderous cliches of D/G ^^ There are always good ones that use them, though!

But I must admit, one thing in D/G fiction that really irks me now is when one of them follow the other out of the Great Hall. BAH! Haha

omg... Faith now that you say that, I can think of ten different fics where I have seen that happen, it is terribly overused.

Another thing I hate is when Ginny runs into Draco in the hallway. How many times have you seen THAT happen? ESPECIALLY when she spills her stuff everywhere?

Oh Oh! I agree with all of you! I especially hate those D/G fics where Ginny turns evil because Harry turns her down or what not. Its really annoying. Or when Draco turns good because he wants Ginny to like her. Very overused.

The most annoying of all plot lines, as far as I am concerned, is where Harry is completely out of character by being abusive/evil to Ginny. Draco of course subsequently finds out about it and offers to protect Ginny, falling in love with her in the process, blah blah blah. Out of all of the ways a writer could get Draco and Ginny together, this has got to be by far the laziest.

Kerry

Hey............ I do agree with most of you, although I will still read those types, just because some amuse me . But, I don't like the ones where one of em always finds the others diary, and I don't like when Ginny needs a way to make harry fall in love with her so draco gives her lessons and they fall in love....... big surprise isnt it????

personally............... if I read one more " Ginny gets work over the summer and discovers this new store called *hot topic* and then goes all punk and gets everything in sight pierced or tattooed and cusses everyone else out because they are so lame ya and goes back to hogwarts and Draco likes what he sees and she gets re-sorted into Slytherin and they are like the punkest attitude princess couple in the whole school but it's ok because they are so damn cool......................"

I swear I will sponteneously combust

that in my opinion has to be one of THE lamest ever storylines

I know what you mean, mulberry. i figure those folks just want to be punk and their moms wont let them so this is their way of getting back at the world. considering half of the world wants to randomly go "punk" these days anyways....

also, those ones where D/G go on a school field trip and they somehow get buddied up by mcgonagal or get stuck sleeping the same room and fall in love somewhere in between mindless hatred and breaking-down sobstories. Pleh.

although very cliche, cant say i havent attempted writing it.

it's a really good idea and fun to write, but eveyrone uses it and it's ruining the story.

Peace out girlscouts! ....and uh...boyscouts?

LOL andFiend............ Hot Topic isnt even real punk anyways , that I think is what REALLY gets to me............... and I agree those damn school field trips......... GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Heh..I hate to say..I'm writing a school field trip story right now....but does it make mine different if Draco and Ginny were already together before the field trip started and the trip has nothing to do with the forming of their relationship?

Anyway, I am posting about ANOTHER overdone D/G thing that really annoys me. I HATE when someone dares Ginny that she cant get Draco to go out with her or something, so she becomes this seductive flirty girl overnight and sucessfully wins his heart by the end of the fic.

LoL!!!

Although, I agree with everyone, well almost all of you, that those lines/plots are scum and pointless. However, if we keep critizing wont ALMOST every plot written for D/G then wont be any more ficlits!! Well we aren't CRITIZING but merly confessing what plots we believe are cliche.

Dont flame me!! I was just telling you readers of what I think >.<!
[holds up sign and waves] DONT HURT ME!!

I understand what you are saying Zilver Faerie. I have seen at least one of these plots used in reallt good stories. To me the writer has alot to do with how the story turns out. If its a good writer who is creating a story, the could take the worst of plots and make something decent. Even one of the greatest fanfic in the D/G ship (Serpent's Bride) uses wizard debt. So I think everyone should guiltyly admit that they have liked a story with a cliched, overdone, or pitiful plot. hahaha

But that still doesn't excuse it, If I see another fic where theres a shy, depressed, friendless Ginny and a Draco who is ready to 'bring her out of her shell', I may cry. haha jk

I totally agree that a lot of plot lines are over used... but I obviously still read them, obsessed that I am. Just to add to a slightly over done one is detention with each other, alone. Now, I'm slightly a hypocrite because I wrote a story about that, but I tried to be less cliched in how they got there. But it's always Draco walking in on Ginny... why do they never get dentention *together*? Also, the whole oops we're locked in a closet (not that I don't love it) is rather old...

xitai

lol!! I understand and agree with Sassychic807 and Xitai. I have to confess I have enjoyed and love more than one ficlet that has a cliche plot

as have i. But what makes things so cliche, is that sombody will write a REALLY good fic useing an origanal plot, and sombody will read it, think"oh they did good with this plot, lets tweak it a bit and see if we can't get another good fic out of it"and do the formentioned. Although if done wrong this can have a horrible outcome and be interpreted as copying said fic....anyway sometimes it just happens and everybody thinks of simalar plots...great minds think alike? Also theres not exactly many ways to get D/G together. were running out of plots, and when people think of new ones...they take off i guess.

wow. i just reread what i wrote and it's very long and rantish. Sorry about that.

~ttfn

i know i'm posting again so soon, but i didn't want to forget this. it is really off topic, so shoot me if you must, but wouldn't it be really really sickening if D/G finally got in a book, but J/K used a VERY cliche plot? but she wouldn't know it was cliche...i think i would just laugh...and laugh and laugh until those nice people in white suits had to take me away to that place with padded walls...

Another thing i've always wondered: if somehow it ends up D/Hr ::shudder:: what will happen to the D/G ship? Will it sink? Or will we abondon the books and turn farther into fanfiction?

embarassing detail: I kept seeing "it might be H/G" and i thought H was hermione like Ginny/Hermione... I was thinking "HOW CAN SO MANY PEOPLE LIKE THAT PAIR!?!" then i figured out H was Harry. Well, now that i feel stupid for saying that.....

ok i want to contribute somthing to go along with the cliche thing so i don't feel like a total idiot...except i can't think of anything...sorry ::hides from raining rotted vegtables::

Everyone is talking about how there is one or two good fics in every cliche...

well SOMEONE had to start the cliche, didn't they? So some of these fics were original at one point, people read them, realized they were rather easy to write....

and wa-la...on came the mass of cliched d/g fics.

face it- some writers are better than others. some can pull off an original version of a cliche and some cant.

it's almost scray writing a d/g fic, making sure not to copy anyone and to use a new idea...ALL the ideas seem to be taken!

I agree with basically everything said here. Whether the story is original or not the bulk of how it is perceived lays squarely at the hands of the writer. If you have a great writer, they can write a previously used story line and make it work. The flip side is, if you have a not so great, even if you use an original story line, the story will not work out. Am I making any sense here?

you make very much sense.

and Fiend, your theory makes me wonder if I should actually read the 6th book...*slaps self for thinking that* er...yeah. I'll just forget that thought. I mena, H/G!?! EEEEEK!!!!! (no offense those who like it, i just REALLY dont)

and I dont think D/Hr would happen at all. Hermione has slapped him, so....yeah. I dont think so....(or maybe it's hope so?) At least Ginny hasnt fought TOO much with him that she cant see past his git-ness...eventually. *grin* it's all so confusing. but i agree with teh JK using a cliche thing. I'd probably laugh and laugh and laugh.....too. *grin*

~Ryoko~

Agreed, to all points above. It's rather funny, though, when you've read a million slightly well written, very similar plot stories and then suddenly run across a masterpiece and think huh... maybe this was the start of the craze. There are certainly many good stories out there, but as was pointed out... it seems impossible to write D/G without getting into some cliche or another...

Also, that would be tragic if J.K. did that... used a bad plot line. ugh... the horror!! Also, yeah... it used to seem that Harry and Ginny might be a good fit (don't shoot me yet), but now they just don't fit. But then J.K. has done some weird stuff to Ginny, so who knows... she seems to be dating everyone. Anything is possible! *crosses fingers for certain event*

xitai

I think JKR would have enough sense not to use a cliched story idea...because not all these d/g cliches are JUST d/g. I mean, how many of you who have read other fanfiction have seen exchange students, bets, and every other cliche listed here?

She knows whats tactful and so far everything she's come up with is original. If JRK were to do D/G, I'm sure she would wow us just like with everything else she has written.

Also, D/G could help along the plot and actually have to do with the story...how would D/Hr help the plot? I just don't see anything that ties in.

I agree Sakura .

Totally Off Subject... Xitai, I LOVE YOUR AVATAR!!!!!!!

The only one that bothers me is when they have a kid (why is it always a girl?), Ginny runs away, and Draco goes off to find them. Partly because I really don't like babyfics, and partly because it seems too implausible.

I have to agree with everything said already! But what bothers me most about over-used plot lines is that people can't seem to come up with anything new. I'm pretty sure people can have some sort of imagination, and the same recycled story lines makes the people who came up with the original idea seem like they're just following the trend.

C'mon people! Learn to think for yourselves!

As for off the subject: So do I!!!!!

Also, remember there are only like fifty plot ideas total in the history of plots (learned this slightly random fact in theatre). After that, you just have to do something awsome with it. That's where you get awsome d/g fics, even if they are cliched.

xitai

[FONT=Arial]I agree with all points and plots mentioned. And the points about the way the author writes the plot bunny completely determines the fic.

In other comments. Xitai, that one you said about detention and Draco walking in on Ginny...were you referring to my story That Day??? I'm sorry for using an overused plot bunny *Bawls and crawls into fetal position* I wasn't aware...I thought I could make it better!!! I really did!!!

I'm sorry. *rocks back and forth*

IN OTHER NEWS, an overused plot in Ginny/Draco fics is the one where Draco suddenly starts working at Ginny's job...for unknown reasons, of course...and the two are forced to work on a project together or Ginny's assigned a project by Draco where he's constantly by her side. Of course, I'm reading one of those but as has been said, it depends solely on how the author writes it.