i Belive it will happend in the end of book 6 or book 7, earlier then that i don´t think.
After he has accepted that it was not Harry that coused his death, and maybe he has inherited or given something on his birthday the will help him work through this.
That would be the primary reason.
Maybe the funeral there will be a wakeup call for harry for him to see that Hermione is more then a "friend" for him.

But there is one more consernand that is Ron jealusy, i belive that Ron and Hermione will date and it will not work out, ant the Luna will come and it will be all clear for H/H , but that will happend in late in book 6 or begining of book 7.

Or JKR has all of us fooled and Ron will go with Luna, Hermione with someone ells.
and Harry will meet a Older girl that is mature enough for him.
I considering that he has dated older girls so far, why not a older girls o a girl that is mentally mature but of same age.


With JKR i don´t want to guess becouse she has surprised me enough times.

Greetings from Rodrigo Lodi

First of, Rodrigo report to the Scandinavian thread immediately. We're falling behind.
Secondly;is one reason that Hermione has a bigger chance than Ginny and Luna has. Hermione is namely almost a year older than Harry, and more mature. Thanks for reminding us that he prefers "older women" .

Well, Eristoff-icE....I follow your drum beat all over these threads, huh? I heartily agree with this scenario (as you know from my other posts).

If I might paint a picture here -- I can see this more clearly than any other situation: Harry is sullen and angry about something (and feeling guilty and frightened deep down) that he wants to push people away and does so through his angry side

Hermione (and Ron, but in the background...sorry, Ron) is trying to calm him down and support him as she usually does but Harry doesn't want to hear it this time. He finally yells at her, insulting her somehow, and perhaps ends with, "I don't NEED you! I don't need anyone!...(etc.)" Hermione is shocked and hurt, tears well up in her eyes, her bottom lip quivers, then she turns abruptly and runs up to her room before bursting into tears.

Harry, taken aback but damned if he's going to give in at this point, glares at Ron who's fed up with the attitude. Ron frowns at him but remains silent as he gathers up his things and walks out of the common room.

Now, Harry, who's still rankled, goes to the clock tower to brood. He does his thinking there and finally sees how big of an *ss he was to Hermione and reflects on just how badly he does really NEED her (remembering all the times she's had his back).....and eventually asks her to take a walk around the lake with him and he can apologize. She takes his hand and tells him she understands (essentially forgives him for being a Class A Heel) and continues to hold it as they begin to walk again. After a beat or two, Harry could realize how natural and right it feels to be there, like that, with her. They keep walking in companionable silence and finally return to the castle. Their romantic relationship grows from there...but I've run out of steam....

End of ramble. What do you think?

Pyg

Cute, but I don't think that he will actually insult her. What might happen is the repeat of preDOM fight with them getting closer and closer (but then I think that we all have been reading too much fanfics.)



I'm sorry, but Harry can't go to the clock tower because the tower does not exist. I search through all of the books, there is no clock tower at Hogwarts. It is the creation of POA movie which really really P***ed me off, especially since it got more airtime than the Marauders. Harry doesn't really have a brooding place except for the dormatory which he used frequently.

AllyRose

If HHr happens at all, it'll happen at the end of HBP (after some breathtaking adventure, they'll just look at eachother and the kiss happens) or the beginning of book7.

I believe that Harry's romantic love will have something to do with the victory over Voldemort (which happens at the end of book 7) so the romance will have to be established earlier.

Besides, we have to be concentrating on action/adventure during book7. The romances have to be already set.

Oh, I don't know. I think one can inadvertantly insult someone when one is in a rage or fit. Obviously, I didn't mean to imply that he truly aims to insult her, but something could come out of his mouth that would leave her feeling insulted. All I'm saying....


I remember (on the DVD?) seeing a drawing JKR made of the Hogwart's area where she had everything mapped out and labeled. Just because she hasn't written about it, does not necessarily mean it can't exist in that world. Perhaps the screenwriter took his idea from that drawing?

Pyg

Yes well the COS DVD had the 'aproved' timeline that turned out to be wrong. As long as it's not in a book, I don't think it can be discussed. Plus, my view of a place to go brood is some place where he feels comfortable, where he has gone before, since we haven't seen it in 5 books, if Harry felt that comfortable there, we should have seen it.

Considering that Harry has finaly acknowledged Hermione's loyalty and solidarity and the fact that I didn't see any capslock Harry on the train ride back, I don't think that Harry will be acting the way he did in OOTP. I think that when they get together, it will be sweet, natural progression of their relationship. The aftermath of it might be angsty and dramatic though.

Sounds like we agree that it will likely be a mix of sweetness and angst but we differ in the order in which those will occur (among other things - ). That's cool though. Enough room here for all.

Pyg

And that's cool. I was just really unhappy about the clocktower thing, is all.

*amends imaginings to: "Harry goes off to brood [add appropriate location here]..."* I get your point, AR. I do.

I really just can't wait to find out if anyone here is even close to what JKR has in store for us!! She's a crafty one. *pleads -- "I want some Pumpkin Pie! Pleeeeeeeease!"*

Pyg

Thank you.

I agree with you, I think that Jo will do something completely different and we will all be flabberghasted.

Remember in OOTP, in the chapter entitled "Christmas on the Closed Ward," Harry does go off brooding. And he is pretty much left alone for a day or two.

That is until Hermione confronts him and comforts him. IF you re-read you notice that Hermione has just arrived, (still snow in her hair) and goes to find Harry first. She knows he is troubled and such and wants to help.

In book six, I do believe that Harry will begin the book brooding at Privet Drive. But perhaps his most sorrowful yet. About the prophecy, about Sirius, and perhaps about how Hermione was almost killed in the DOM.

Perhaps an intervention on Hermione's part will occur early. Thus sparking the romance.

I love all of your ideas but IMHO I think it'll play out slightly differently.

I think Jo will try and keep us guessing as long as possible. In books 6 & 7 she'll continue to develop Harry and Hermione in a subtlish kind of way. When she says he'll get kissed again I do think it'll be from Hermione again but still on the cheek. I wouldn't be surprised if she shows Harry getting increasingly comfortable with touching Hermione. In previous instances we see Hermione hugging Harry or kissing Harry, I think we'll see more of that but with Harry hugging or kissing her in return.

Having said that I think Jo will still make the context as disputable as possible and by showing some arguments with Ron and Hermione she'll still give Herons something to hope for. IMO the big revelation will come right at the end (Hence her response that Harry and Hermione never go on a date) and it'll come about in a final showdown. I cant imagine Harry going to face Voldemort without Hermione and I also can't imagine Voldemort not reacting to a 'Mud Blood' being there. I think he'll threaten and attack Hermione if he gets the chance and it'll be Harry's reaction that will really show him how he feels about her. I think that might also be where he gets the power from to finally defeat Voldemort.

Anyway that's my theory.

I don't know I have this vision of Hermione and Harry together.. It is very late, they have been very busy with their Head Girl and Boy duties and are studying together and fall asleep, Hermione slumps over Harry's chest.. He awakes from his doze and becomes aware of the scent of her hair.. Funny thing that, he never noticed or imagined there'd be any scent to Hermione's hair, kind of fresh, clean, like the air when riding a broom during Quidditch season.. Hermione wakes and looks up at him.. The IT happens.. Harry feels how warm Hermione's lips are, it's nice... They pull apart and look into one another's eyes, Herminone's eyes are shinning, nothing is said, but they know, now and forever they are one.

I've always think about it as... shy. Come on, it would be so.... Harry. And Hermione's not the kind ofgirl who would jump into a buy. She seems to be the kind of girl who would wait for the boy to come to her.

I can see them together, alone. Just talking, one of those glances they have, and I can also hear Hermione asking Harry something like "Aren't you going to kiss me?"

That'd be just sooooooooooooooooo sweet!!